Keep feeling jealous of NTs

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01 Dec 2021, 2:50 pm

I realize that now. Being an ASD is so difficult and even pretending to be an NT is exhausting itself. My parents used to tell me that it was a gift when I was a kid, but I don't believe that.



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01 Dec 2021, 3:45 pm

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Ironically, if I just had Asperger's alone, I'd probably have more friends. Being on the very high-functioning end of the spectrum (like I am) and not being too severely affected by your symptoms, and naturally having some social skills, usually doesn't make it impossible to make friends, especially if they can mask and mimic social skills like I did. I know of a few different Aspies (some possible Aspies) who seem to have had more friendship experiences than I've ever had, even if they were short-lived. Me, from the age of 12-14 I literally had 0 friends. Never experienced the feeling of friends knocking on my door asking me to hang out. Didn't have any friends to walk to school with. I finally got some friends when I was at college but they were immature, unstable louts and ended up bullying me.

But I've been reading into ADHD and all the social problems ADHD causes describes me exactly. So having ADHD, social anxiety and Asperger's probably is the reason I do not succeed socially no matter how skilled I can be in some (social) areas.


You could be right there. I seem to fare better socially with other people who are more adhd because they get me because I have adhd as well. Its just so much easier.

I don't get anywhere socially with none's. But I do notice that people who seem to have autistic traits without adhd do get on socially.

It's difficult. It's a bit like oil and water. We just don't mix.


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03 Dec 2021, 8:02 am

I think the fact that I was unreasonably excluded from my peers at work that time really haunts me and I can't seem to get over it until I have a legitimate answer other than "because you're autistic".


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03 Dec 2021, 8:23 am

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I hate being lumbered with sh***y ASD. It feels so isolating and as a naturally social person it makes me feel depressed.

To me NT brains are super smart. They're like super technical iPhones. They can connect like Bluetooth and like practically read minds. Lucky for me I can feel and understand emotions but there must be something missing if I can't make friends with my NT peers.

I still can't get over how excluded I was when I first started my job a couple of years ago. It still hurts, even though a couple of the people no longer work there.
I felt just like them; I laughed at their jokes and was laid-back and more or less normal, except I wasn't as loud as 2 of them but I wasn't exactly quiet either. In the group there was a girl with mental health issues, 2 "ordinary" guys (one of the guys had a thing for the girl but the other guy had a wife), and one guy who had a bland personality and was single and still lived with his parents (I used to think he was on the spectrum but I don't think he is, he's just shy). They were all around my age, but the girl also included the teenage daughter of one of the other colleagues (who wasn't part of the group). The teenager didn't work there and was still at school, but somehow she got invited out ice-skating one Saturday with the girl - even though the teenager wasn't like her, she was more like me. But they preferred each other.

And they didn't know each other before they started working there - in fact I knew them before the mentally ill girl started working there, and she was new to the area so didn't know anybody already.

Socialising isn't that f*****g hard. Even I say so myself. It's easy. Eye contact, no problem for me. Smalltalk, interest in other people, expressing emotions - no problem for me. What more do people my age want to be my friend? I'm so crap.

Even for an Aspie this is ridiculous. A severely autistic child probably has more ability to make friends than I do. I get so frustrated with myself. :x :cry:


I have a tendancy to avoid large social groups as it hammers home just how different I really am. It never gets easier but it's still important to remember the fun your own company can afford you.

Binge watching YouTube with nobody complaining is one of the benefits of my own company for me.



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03 Dec 2021, 4:05 pm

It's not fair is it, that some of us had to be cursed with such a lonely, cruel disorder. :cry: I feel really angry about it and I can't stop obsessing over how it is more appropriate for NTs to break social rules but if I break the same rules they don't like me.

There's this odd guy at work (28 years old, still lives with his parents and can't get a girlfriend but still seems NT) and he doesn't work in our department but still is often seen hanging about in our department, even after his shift has finished, chatting away with the engineers in our department. I understand he's friends with them but if that was me hanging around friends from a different department who were trying to get on with their work, they'll probably start finding me annoying and not want to be friends with me any more and start giving non-verbal hints to me to piss off, or even worse tell me bluntly. But other people can practically live in their friend's pockets and follow them around like a puppy dog and they're still friends.

It's not that I don't get hints, like if I'm hanging around people too long and they give off non-verbal hints that they don't want me around any more. I just don't know how to get to the point in the friendship where they love you enough and don't mind you following them around and hanging around them every minute of the day.
Do you see what I mean?


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