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22 Dec 2021, 2:41 am

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Liberal folk are often more capitalist & upmarket than Conservatives. I can't stand 'liberals', honestly. Gimme a socialist over a liberal, any day. I don't mind working class Conservatives in Britain, as they just hate 'The Labour Party' and their wokeism, more than anything else. They don't like globalism either..


We get both types migrating here to the "antipodes" and I have worked socilaised with both types.

I've mentioned it before but liberal Brits who might have spent their 20s squatting in flats in London and being part of the alternative set end up becoming inner city bourgeoises in Melbourne and Sydney. Sipping caffe lattes and pretending to be better than everyone else.

But the working class conservatives who come to Australia become the Australian conservatives here in Oz. They very quickly assimilate into that mode because they were already hate immigrants, hate wokeism and want to create little Englands here :lol:


I personally find that even Conservatives in the UK are almost universally in favour of limited immigration, unless they are of the lower IQ variety, in which case they want to "send them all back" in some cases.

You cannot create a 'Little England' in the UK, because already, 15% of the population are 'people of colour'. Unless you are in a rural place outside of London - immigrants are everywhere & almost everyone accepts them for the most part. It is 'normal' in the UK to talk & socialise with persons of colour. I was exposed to immigration from a very young age. My primary school friends were mostly persons of colour.

Most people of colour I know are hilariously more racist than white people. I have been (jokingly) called a "f*****g cr****r" and all kinds of things. A Muslim guy at university told me he genuinely thought Hitler was a good leader for white folk & I had to debate him and tell him he was wrong on that one.

Reality is a lot different from what is portrayed in the mainstream media, for the most part, in my experience.

It's mostly left-wing folk who are entitled and think they are 'better' in my experience. Especially hipsters.

They'll be like "yeah, but man, I read like 3 books which say you are wrong about your lived experience, why are you so ignorant, maaaaaan." :lol:

I think anyone can be entitiled and think they are ""better" although here in the US the blue collar small town Republicans like a small town plumber are more salt of the earth types and they are more likely to be millionaires one day than a democrat medical doctor in Chicago.Although the Democrat Party has most of the nations billionaires.It seems like your typical American millionaire would at least be somewhat conservative in lifestyle even if they were democrat and not like far-left unless they were a university professor or something like that.I think all the nations centibillionaires are democrats.



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22 Dec 2021, 2:48 am

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Reality is a lot different from what is portrayed in the mainstream media, for the most part, in my experience.


Probably true. It also is not static. In Australia there were periods where anti-immigration sentiment goes up. I think there's a lot of chameleons who go through phases. I have family who are ultra-conservative whom I have nothing to do with.

My sister was a university socialist but now is a typical soccor mom :lol:

That reminds me of my sister because she is very feminist yet she married a very sexist man who tricked her into marrying him.My sister is a secular liberal democratic socialist now but we grew up under a dad who loved Barry Goldwater and Ronald Reagan in a very religious family.I was a sociology major who studied Marxist economics for years and years under one of the most-highly decorated Marxist Ph.D's in the nation constantly but I never became liberal or became a Secular Marxist.I was a NeoCon in college initially but I became a Conservative Libertarian Republican because of college.



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22 Dec 2021, 3:23 am

Texasmoneyman300 wrote:
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Reality is a lot different from what is portrayed in the mainstream media, for the most part, in my experience.


Probably true. It also is not static. In Australia there were periods where anti-immigration sentiment goes up. I think there's a lot of chameleons who go through phases. I have family who are ultra-conservative whom I have nothing to do with.

My sister was a university socialist but now is a typical soccor mom :lol:

That reminds me of my sister because she is very feminist yet she married a very sexist man who tricked her into marrying him.My sister is a secular liberal democratic socialist now but we grew up under a dad who loved Barry Goldwater and Ronald Reagan in a very religious family.I was a sociology major who studied Marxist economics for years and years under one of the most-highly decorated Marxist Ph.D's in the nation constantly but I never became liberal or became a Secular Marxist.I was a NeoCon in college initially but I became a Conservative Libertarian Republican because of college.


Yep, people's circumstances change. That's why I never label people on this forum by their politics.



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22 Dec 2021, 4:08 am

cyberdad wrote:
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blitzkrieg wrote:
Reality is a lot different from what is portrayed in the mainstream media, for the most part, in my experience.


Probably true. It also is not static. In Australia there were periods where anti-immigration sentiment goes up. I think there's a lot of chameleons who go through phases. I have family who are ultra-conservative whom I have nothing to do with.

My sister was a university socialist but now is a typical soccor mom :lol:

That reminds me of my sister because she is very feminist yet she married a very sexist man who tricked her into marrying him.My sister is a secular liberal democratic socialist now but we grew up under a dad who loved Barry Goldwater and Ronald Reagan in a very religious family.I was a sociology major who studied Marxist economics for years and years under one of the most-highly decorated Marxist Ph.D's in the nation constantly but I never became liberal or became a Secular Marxist.I was a NeoCon in college initially but I became a Conservative Libertarian Republican because of college.


Yep, people's circumstances change. That's why I never label people on this forum by their politics.

Exactly.I try to give everyone on this forum the benefit of the doubt because most of us are neurodiverse.I may be capitalist but really in my perfect world my fellow Christians would sell everything and give to the poor like Jesus said.Or at least that my religious belief.But really neither American party really represents me.Its just the lesser of two evils for me.I dont even believe in political parties.Like I wish there was no Democrat or Republican party.



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22 Dec 2021, 4:13 am

Texasmoneyman300 wrote:
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blitzkrieg wrote:
Reality is a lot different from what is portrayed in the mainstream media, for the most part, in my experience.


Probably true. It also is not static. In Australia there were periods where anti-immigration sentiment goes up. I think there's a lot of chameleons who go through phases. I have family who are ultra-conservative whom I have nothing to do with.

My sister was a university socialist but now is a typical soccor mom :lol:

That reminds me of my sister because she is very feminist yet she married a very sexist man who tricked her into marrying him.My sister is a secular liberal democratic socialist now but we grew up under a dad who loved Barry Goldwater and Ronald Reagan in a very religious family.I was a sociology major who studied Marxist economics for years and years under one of the most-highly decorated Marxist Ph.D's in the nation constantly but I never became liberal or became a Secular Marxist.I was a NeoCon in college initially but I became a Conservative Libertarian Republican because of college.


Yep, people's circumstances change. That's why I never label people on this forum by their politics.

Exactly.I try to give everyone on this forum the benefit of the doubt because most of us are neurodiverse.I may be capitalist but really in my perfect world my fellow Christians would sell everything and give to the poor like Jesus said.Or at least that my religious belief.But really neither American party really represents me.Its just the lesser of two evils for me.I dont even believe in political parties.Like I wish there was no Democrat or Republican party.


Your nice for a republican, Heck, I even liked one Trump supporter on WP (Lady Barthory), she and I had a lot in common. She even laughed at my MAGA comments. Had a wicked sense of humour.



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22 Dec 2021, 4:31 am

cyberdad wrote:
Texasmoneyman300 wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Texasmoneyman300 wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
blitzkrieg wrote:
Reality is a lot different from what is portrayed in the mainstream media, for the most part, in my experience.


Probably true. It also is not static. In Australia there were periods where anti-immigration sentiment goes up. I think there's a lot of chameleons who go through phases. I have family who are ultra-conservative whom I have nothing to do with.

My sister was a university socialist but now is a typical soccor mom :lol:

That reminds me of my sister because she is very feminist yet she married a very sexist man who tricked her into marrying him.My sister is a secular liberal democratic socialist now but we grew up under a dad who loved Barry Goldwater and Ronald Reagan in a very religious family.I was a sociology major who studied Marxist economics for years and years under one of the most-highly decorated Marxist Ph.D's in the nation constantly but I never became liberal or became a Secular Marxist.I was a NeoCon in college initially but I became a Conservative Libertarian Republican because of college.


Yep, people's circumstances change. That's why I never label people on this forum by their politics.

Exactly.I try to give everyone on this forum the benefit of the doubt because most of us are neurodiverse.I may be capitalist but really in my perfect world my fellow Christians would sell everything and give to the poor like Jesus said.Or at least that my religious belief.But really neither American party really represents me.Its just the lesser of two evils for me.I dont even believe in political parties.Like I wish there was no Democrat or Republican party.


Your nice for a republican, Heck, I even liked one Trump supporter on WP (Lady Barthory), she and I had a lot in common. She even laughed at my MAGA comments. Had a wicked sense of humour.

Ya thank you buddy.I just try to do my best to love everybody.I am trying to be less outspoken but its a skill I am trying to work that does not come naturally to me because I am a ENTJ.I just think America glorifies billionaires way too much.I know I may want to be a billionaire but i would be fine with a million in year 2000 dollars.Like money is not the most important thing to me.I think you are very nice too buddy.I am thinking of stopping being a Trump supporter.he may be too crazy for me.I am sorry if I was wrong about him but I just did not know he would be a covid-denier.i would of voted for Jeb Bush in that case.So i am thinking of maybe voting for Jeb Bush Mitt Romney types who are more mainstream Republicans.I know this heresy for a Republican but I view private property as something that could be a sin based on my reading of the Bible.Like Nobody needs 100 billion dollars.Like you only need a 1 to 3 million dollar portfolio due to the hedonic treadmill.I am a believer in Liberation Theology maybe but I just think wanting to become a billionaire is not wise for the vast majority of the population even if they could make a billion dollars.I think maybe even saving for retirement could be sinful but idk.



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22 Dec 2021, 4:56 am

I don't idealise wealth or money & never have done, though because I am culturally conservative. In the past, people have expected that I am an uber capitalist or something like that, which just isn't the case and never has been.

As long as I have a moderately sized wardrobe of nice clothes, enough food to eat & a roof over my head, I care very little about material social status.

I have seen both of my parents stressed out to hell keeping a roof over both theirs & my head & I feel lucky I do not have that burden to bear.



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22 Dec 2021, 5:22 am

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I don't idealise wealth or money & never have done, though because I am culturally conservative. In the past, people have expected that I am an uber capitalist or something like that, which just isn't the case and never has been.

As long as I have a moderately sized wardrobe of nice clothes, enough food to eat & a roof over my head, I care very little about material social status.

I have seen both of my parents stressed out to hell keeping a roof over both theirs & my head & I feel lucky I do not have that burden to bear.

Personally i think it would be better for the soul of America if we were less focused on money and maybe was rich as 2nd world countries.Personally agrarian and agricultural society would be my ideal like for example like maybe America in the 1910 timeframe Like I would give anything to live a life like that instead of modern life because I would just be a farmer or rancher and be kind of like temple grandin since i am happiest on the ranch instead of suburbia.



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22 Dec 2021, 8:12 am

Texasmoneyman300 wrote:
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I don't idealise wealth or money & never have done, though because I am culturally conservative. In the past, people have expected that I am an uber capitalist or something like that, which just isn't the case and never has been.

As long as I have a moderately sized wardrobe of nice clothes, enough food to eat & a roof over my head, I care very little about material social status.

I have seen both of my parents stressed out to hell keeping a roof over both theirs & my head & I feel lucky I do not have that burden to bear.

Personally i think it would be better for the soul of America if we were less focused on money and maybe was rich as 2nd world countries.Personally agrarian and agricultural society would be my ideal like for example like maybe America in the 1910 timeframe Like I would give anything to live a life like that instead of modern life because I would just be a farmer or rancher and be kind of like temple grandin since i am happiest on the ranch instead of suburbia.


Same.

I much prefer ruralism & the 'simple' life. I like being in nature, though I don't get many chances as I don't have a car/don't drive.



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I find this with woman I know, who are quite liberal in their politics, and have a lot of liberal stances on issues, but they will often go for guys who are conversative much more. And then they complain about how it bothers them, yet they still keep going for these types of guys, in terms of politics.

Is it just a case of opposites attract perhaps, or is there more to it than that?

Or perhaps it's just a question of demographics? Perhaps right-wingers have a higher male-to-female ratio than left-wingers? Perhaps, for left-wing hetero women, there just aren't enough left-wing hetero men to go around?


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I find this with woman I know, who are quite liberal in their politics, and have a lot of liberal stances on issues, but they will often go for guys who are conversative much more. And then they complain about how it bothers them, yet they still keep going for these types of guys, in terms of politics.

Is it just a case of opposites attract perhaps, or is there more to it than that?

Or perhaps it's just a question of demographics? Perhaps right-wingers have a higher male-to-female ratio than left-wingers? Perhaps, for left-wing hetero women, there just aren't enough left-wing hetero men to go around?
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Oh ok but why are there less left wing to go around?



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10 Mar 2022, 5:43 pm

ironpony wrote:
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I find this with woman I know, who are quite liberal in their politics, and have a lot of liberal stances on issues, but they will often go for guys who are conversative much more. And then they complain about how it bothers them, yet they still keep going for these types of guys, in terms of politics.

Is it just a case of opposites attract perhaps, or is there more to it than that?

Or perhaps it's just a question of demographics? Perhaps right-wingers have a higher male-to-female ratio than left-wingers? Perhaps, for left-wing hetero women, there just aren't enough left-wing hetero men to go around?
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Oh ok but why are there less left wing to go around?


How did you interpret this from Mona's post?



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11 Mar 2022, 2:12 am

She said "there aren't just enough left wing hetero men to go around" which I interpreted as she meant there aren't enough to go wrong, and I was asking why, unless I interpreted it wrong?



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Oh ok but why are there less left wing to go around?

I'm not sure exactly what all the reasons are, but, other factors being equal, men are more likely than women to be right wing, and, conversely, women are more likely than men to be left-wing. Hence, among right wingers, men outnumber women, whereas, among left-wingers, women outnumber men. Hence, among right wingers, it's harder for hetero men than for hetero women to find partners who agree with them politically, whereas, among left-wingers, it's the other way around.


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12 Mar 2022, 1:21 am

seems to me that right wing women tend to reject socially handicapped men for different reasons than left women would.



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12 Mar 2022, 7:26 pm

That's interesting. What would the different reasons be for each?