Biden impeachment?

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Cruz: GOP will have 'multiple grounds to consider' for Biden impeachment if it wins House

Sure, why not?  As long as people understand that impeachment and removal from office are two separate processes, there should be no problem.

So they want to impeach Biden just because they don't like him? The Republicans really have nothing to contribute other than being petty, do they?

Do you remember when the Democrats were vowing to impeach Trump before he was even inaugurated? It turns out that norm breaking has long term consequences, as Democrats might find out for the umpteenth time in recent memory.

Indeed. And never forget history. No president has ever been removed from office after impeachment. There was no way Trump even could have been removed from office. The impeachment (*2) of Trump was purely a symbolic gesture. Democrats would have more to fear if Trump had actually been removed from office. What goes around... Precedents in American politics are very dangerous things.

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Meh, Coming FroM 'A Party' That Overall Caters
to Constituent Desires to Believe in Trump's Big

Lie that He Won the Last Election in 2020;

Even After the Republican Senate Majority
Leader Publicly Admitted that Trump Held
Practical Responsibility for Inciting A Deadly

Insurrection to Overthrow Part of our Representative
Democracy Process; And Even After the Republican Minority
House Leader Publicly Admitted That Trump Also Held Responsibility
For Not Taking Action Enough to Stop the Deadly Insurrection Immediately

And Even After The Propaganda News Station That Supports Trump IN MAINSTREAM MEDIA 'SPOKE;'

Yet Hannity and Laura Ingraham From THAT FAUX Fox News Along with Trump's Son And Daughter Begged

THE BIG TRUMP to Stop the Deadly Insurrection As Trump Was Ruining the Legacy of the Whole

Contrived SHow For Everyone Involved in Trump's Fresh Hell in Ruining the

Representative

Democracy of

The United States; YES,

If the Same Folks Doing this;
Yes, the Republican Party With
Support From Folks Who Still Believe
the Big Lie That Trump Won the Last Election,

Try to Take Revenge on Biden for What Trump Reasonably
Should Have Been Convicted for Surely in the Second Impeachment
For What the Senate Republican Majority Leader and House Minority

Republican Leader

ADDMITTED FOR

WHAT HE DID;

It's Kind of Like

Inmates of a Prison

Impeaching the Correction

Officers; Yes, Laughable at Best

And Just Another Affront on Democracy At Worst...

Really Just Sad And Indeed An Overall Sign of A Failing Representative Democracy Indeed
Where Too Many of the Citizens Don't Have 'the Hardware and Software' to Lift Veils of
Ignorance Per that Original Greek Definition of Apocalypse, While the Hands of

State And Church

Come Together

FROM THE
PULPIT

YES,

Against the
Constitution for
Separation of Church
And State And Insist that
God Says Vote Trump No
Matter What He Does as Long
As He Promotes the Suffering of
Women Not able to Get Legal Abortions...

Yet True, This Now Isn't All on the Back of
Republican Party Ignorance; This is All on

The Backs of Spoiled Americans of EVERY

Party Who Believe, if they Don't Get Everything

They Want, They Won't Go Out and Vote And Believe
They Can Just Take All Their Toys Home and Forget about

the

Whole
She Bang;

Well, NO! A REPRESENTATIVE
DEMOCRACY IS NOT GUARANTEED!

AND IF FOLKS STOP PARTICIPATING,

CAUSE THEY ARE BASICALLY SPOILED BRATS;

THAT GIVES THE DOOR WIDE-OPEN TO FOLKS WHO ARE
ADDICTED TO THE NORADRENALINE AND DOPAMINE FIX

THAT SHARED BONDS Over Fear, Anger, And Hate Do Bring

As Who Ever Binds and Bonds Over DarK or LiGHT The Best And Gets
Out and Votes

Win the
Circus

For Whatever
Fresh Hell or Spoiled

Heaven Can And Will Come Next...

There's An Easy Way to Fix this: Vote!

Move Hell and High Water to VOTE! No Matter
How Hard Republicans Jury-Rig the Laws Now to
make it More Difficult; YES, VOTE! LIKE FREEDOMS
FOR THE RIGHTS TO LIFE, LIBERTY, AND THE PURSUIT

OF HAPPINESS DEPENDS ON IT AS REPUBLICANS ARE ACTUALLY
THE MINORITY OF ALL REGISTERED VOTERS SO TRUE IT DOES LIE

AND TELL THE

TRUTH IN THE

END AND BEGINNING

OF WHO GETS OUT AND VOTES!

IF 'WE' DECIDE TO REPRESENT OURSELVES,

DEMOCRACY WINS IN TRUTH; IF LIES DECIDE
TO REPRESENT THEMSELVES AND TRUTH GOES TO SLEEP

LIES WIN

AND PERHAPS

WE ALL FALL DOWN

LIKE TOY SOLDIERS ADDICTED TO CRACK...

Americans Have Grown Ignorant of the Gift They Have...

Americans Have Grown Ignorant of the Gift They Have...

Americans Have Grown Ignorant of the Gift They Have...

Lift the
Veils of
Ignorance;

Wake Up! or

Go to Sleep And Awake

iN A Way of Government

That is Indeed Spoiled Heaven and Fresh HeLL ON EartH, HeaR; Other Wise, YES,

'Soon and Sooner', 'The End Days' of the United States May Come to Fruition FOR REAL.

Other Than That Call Ya Mamma, Tell Her You Love Her, And Pet Your Cat And Dog With SMiLes...

-Fredmark

~It's True, We Do
Need 'Both Kinds'

Of 'Greeting CardS' iNdeed...

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Ok, but honestly, there's no such thing as a true separation of church and state. It's not possible. Voters are spiritual at the very least, and many do attend church. As long as people allow themselves to be influenced by church institutions, faith will play a factor in deciding who they want to vote for.

That can't be avoided any more than you can stop anyone from pushing any kind of agenda they want to. What ultimately matters is how many people are in agreement with that agenda.

What separation of church and state means as far as the US government is concerned is that the government cannot establish any church as a state religion, nor is the government allowed to interfere in any religion. The Catholic Church or the Southern Baptist Convention are not allowed to directly make policy--they can INFORM politicians of what they want and their feelings as denominations, but government as a whole does not answer to one of them. And government is not allowed to dictate to Catholics or Baptists what they are required by law to believe.

That's as far as goes. And of COURSE government does have some say into the kinds of religious activities that are allowed by law. I'm not aware of any specific law that bans animal sacrifice, but I've heard that's illegal. Human sacrifice has been a staple of some religions in the ancient past, but it's not allowed ANYWHERE now. And no religion is allowed to be disruptive to society, meaning government can dictate where and how, within reason, people can worship. At the beginning of the COVID lockdown, governments at different levels began some unreasonably intrusive meddling in church activities, going so far as to block people from church parking lots and issuing fines before that. Some church pastors have even been arrrested over this. The tighter the government's grip, the more intense the backlash from it to the point that something like that happening again now is unthinkable. So there are relationships between churches and the state, and understanding that and guiding policy is walking a very thin tightrope.

Of course the Republicans are going to try the same thing they wanted to do to Obama, they have nothing to offer in terms of actual policy.

You could equally argue there's no such thing as a true right to bear arms.

As long as they infringe on my God-given right to doomsday devices.

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Politics, Religion, And Even Philosophy

Are 'Good Bedfellows' That Exclude

Out of the Walls and Prisons of

Tradition; Almost Every Archetypal
Story of A Hero is One Who Discards

Tradition for More Progressive Freedoms

For Humanity; Particularly, Among Those

Who Are Marginalized; Yet of Course that is

Paradoxically More of An Open Minded Liberal

Way of Being As If Ya Wanna Go On About Your Day

in Terms of What Jesus Might Dance or Sing in A Day

It is More like
A Quote
That
Came to
me in A
Facebook Feed
That Was actually
Worth Repeating and
Repeating Here Again Now:

"This Year I WANT TO BE MORE LIKE JESUS:

-Hang Out With Sinners

-Upset Religious People

-Tell Stories That Make People Think

-Choose Unpopular Friends

-Be Kind Loving And Merciful

-Take Naps on Boats

-Per The Gospel of Thomas
Verse 37, Shed All My Clothes
And Dance Without Shame on Those

Clothes Again With No Shame or Regret
Finding Nature is the Living God Naked Within FOR REAL NOW...

-Yet Exclude the parts That Don't Make Any Damned
Sense And Are Contradictory; Like Changing Naughty
Sheep into Goats And Burning Them Forever As Pay-Back

is

Literally Hell

From An All Loving
Merciful God Who Turns
The Other Cheek And Always
Loves The Enemy the Same

As God Loves God Now Within
With No Damned Separation in (Yoga) Unity For Real...

To Be Clear, Bishop Megan Rohrer, Created The 6 First
of Those WWJD Tasks And i Did the Rest With my Own

Mental Masturbation

With A little
Help
From
Some
Other FRiEnDS too...

Anyway, The Church i Visit
Surely Crossed the Line of Tax Free Services,

For What is Legally Required to Stay That Way Now;

Again for Constitutional Purposes for Church Separate From State...

Yet 'We' All
KNoW; Yes, the

Church is A Sacred
Cow that Every Party
Is Afraid to F Around With too Much...

For Fear of Getting Canceled indeed By Votes...

As Tradition Naturally Gets Out to Vote the Most...
Most Definitely, Including Churches That Also Push The
Fresh

Hell
MeMe
of All
That Colors
The HiSToRiCaL
TheME of Demagogue Leaders;

Most Despicable, Just Waiting

For the Support in What Ever Form

Minions Come in Church or State Sponsored Activities Next...

And This is Why i Ask 'Eve' For More Popcorn Enjoying The
View from my Real Forrest Deep Gump Garden of Eden

Naked and
Totally

God Free;

DarK And LiGHT
The Whole Play Now

Is What It Is; Folks Make
The Best of This One Life
to LiVE ON EartH Forever Now

or they

Just don't

Do it And
Fall Lower
to Another Place on Earth..

Does it Have to Be Fair: No...

Can And WiLL IT Get Better; at Least for me Yes, so far For Real...

As Anthropology Observer Participant, The MaNuRE and GRoWinG

Roses are More Interesting to Study than Ever Before, So My Heaven Continues at least...

-Meh
~Yet Me Multi-UNiVeRSE
CoLoReD With Me Hehe..

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I suppose so. They did have legit reasons to impeach him each time though. It seems the Republicans here are just being petty and retaliatory.

Random backbenchers (or whatever the American term is) are constantly proposing impeachment of the sitting President. For example:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Efforts_t ... rack_Obama

Obama seems to have been subject to more of these attempts than any of his predecessors, and for things as varied as not liking his immigration policy to not believing he was born in America even after he released his birth certificate.

As for Trump, looks like the first efforts to impeach him began when he fired James Comey, and were supported by the likes of Angus King, John McCain, and Justin Amash. Nancy Pelosi and the Democratic leadership didn't start talking positively about impeachment until the Ukraine scandal.

The successful impeachments over Ukraine and the storming of the Capitol (particularly the weeks of attempting to overturn American democracy in the build up) are exactly the sorts of things that Presidents should be impeached for.

While Harry Reid might have lived to regret his limited removal of the filibuster, it is not the Democrats who have been breaking the most norms in American politics lately - not by a long shot.

So let them have a go
At good old Sleepy Joe!

Seems like impeachment is all the rage these days.

It's a shame its all become so partisan. IMHO Trump earned his impeachments, although the first might have been better left unmade for the very reason we're seeing Senator Cruz try to push: an invitation to attempt tit for tat. Biden may be, well, Biden, but Trump was literally anti-constitution in his actions. It really is a shame that so many Republicans continue to refuse to see it.