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22 Jan 2022, 2:44 pm

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This is fascinating because my name is Richard , Richard Swallow. But my friends call me Dick. I also have a friend named Alan Partridge.


This post deserves..."the bird".



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22 Jan 2022, 2:46 pm

DO you want my birth certificate? I can send it to you. You all don't believe me?

My father was called Richard, My grandfather, his great grandfather. I come from a long line of Dick Swallows. It's a family tradition!


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22 Jan 2022, 2:59 pm

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I wonder if there's a Mr. Buttdork, out there, somewhere in Sweden.


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22 Jan 2022, 3:24 pm

Gosh...Mr. Swallow... we all apologize for thinking that you were just putting us all on. :lol:

But the funny thing is that you dont even hafta use the Swedish name for that cute bird.

The English name "long tailed tit" is already...or can be taken to be...rather raunchy itself. Lol!

Tits, titmouse, all of the tit birds. Tail.

Thats the trouble with English. It gathers too much slang over the years. Just the other day I drove through a pleasant nieghborhood on "Morning Wood Drive". Made me blush!

There was a fictional character on a British show named "Mr. Titmouse". Dont know if its an actual common surname.



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22 Jan 2022, 4:32 pm

I have a friend surname Bird, and another surname Salmon.

My mother's side is named for two English villages.

My dad's side is named by occupation.

We have quite a few Smiths too.


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22 Jan 2022, 10:06 pm

LOL...at times, I can honestly say that I thoroughly enjoy myself on this site. I love this thread!!



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22 Jan 2022, 10:07 pm

What bird is a smith?


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22 Jan 2022, 10:10 pm

OMG...I'm gonna have a heart attack from laughter ! ! :lol:



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22 Jan 2022, 10:13 pm

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OMG...I'm gonna have a heart attack from laughter ! ! :lol:


Why? Is smith a mouse?


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22 Jan 2022, 10:34 pm

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LOL...at times, I can honestly say that I thoroughly enjoy myself on this site. I love this thread!!


Very pleased to be providing entertainment for our readers here! :D


What about the surname 'Boyd'? Isn't there an American accent, maybe from somewhere in New York, where they pronounce 'bird' as 'boid'? You hear it sometimes in old gangster films.

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23 Jan 2022, 3:33 am

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What bird is a smith?


Like I said above -most English surnames are taken from occupations. Not from animals, avian, or otherwise.

Smith is an occupation.



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20 Jan 2023, 5:58 pm

There are far more animal-derived surnames, such as:
Heffer
Bullock
Steer
Hart
Deer
Colt
Hound
This may be explained by occupation but then we have names for associated occupations, such as shepherd. Perhaps similarities in features or temparament provides the answer?



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20 Jan 2023, 6:23 pm

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What bird is a smith?


Like I said above -most English surnames are taken from occupations. Not from animals, avian, or otherwise.

Smith is an occupation.


Where did the "Black" in "Blacksmiths" come in?


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20 Jan 2023, 6:29 pm

Mountain Goat wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
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What bird is a smith?


Like I said above -most English surnames are taken from occupations. Not from animals, avian, or otherwise.

Smith is an occupation.


Where did the "Black" in "Blacksmiths" come in?


Not sure. My guess is that it had something to do with the need to distinguish the guys who made stuff out of iron from "goldsmiths", and "silversmiths".

Since those metals are also names of colors they just went with "black" for the "smiths" of iron and steel products.



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20 Jan 2023, 6:32 pm

Oh my God, I've recently been wondering the exact same thing and was going to start a thread on it. :)


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20 Jan 2023, 6:35 pm

Could be that they started using coal, as coal.was never used until they started .aking iron and they ran out of wood.
Britains largest woodlandwas Kigswood and used to be in the whole valley below hefe until.in ths 1500's onwards due to iron foundaries here on a big scale, almost the entire woods were cut down.


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