Conservative Party UK tries to force slave labour

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Yes there are exceptions and the companies you mention go through online applications + F2F interviews. Just because you get an interview doesn't mean you get the job. When my brother was an engineering student he applied for a job as a cashier in a major grocery chain here in Melbourne. After the interviews he got selected but he observed that the male staff were all over 6 foot (he's 6foot3) and the girls selected all looked supermodels. He's right! if you go to a major store (Kmart etc) they get way more applications than positions. The staff hired are ideally young (low wage) and hella good looking compared to the average young person.

What it suggests is the F2F interview is where they do the selecting rather than the online applications

This is exactly why I was against lockdowns during the pandemic. It put people out of business and many people lost their jobs and had no choice but to go on the dole. Then the government wants to pressurise them and practically shame them. That's Tories for you.

It's a no-win situation. Many jobs aren't suitable for many people and it's very distressing for someone to be forced to take a job they're not cut out for.

I had the same problem. Due to the dole office forcing me to find the next job that came along, I ended up in a job I didn't really want because it wasn't a friendly environment for people like me with anxiety problems. I stuck it out for some 5 years, but each time I had a panic attack the supervisor would just yell "if you don't like it then why are you here? There's the door!" But I couldn't just up and leave because the dole office doesn't like it when people leave their jobs because of not being comfortable there.

So you don't win either way. That's why I always vote labour. I know labour has its own set of issues we don't all agree with but at least they're a bit more lenient with the working class and more supportive to the NHS.

Do you have job agencies that cater for special needs? the Dole office in the UK shouldn't force people with diagnosed conditions into work. That would never happen in Australia.

This is precisely what happens in the United Kingdom. When I was undiagnosed with several neurological & psychological issues, the dole office back from 2009 until 2011 were treating me like something they had stood in, despite me telling them I was disabled and trying to get diagnosed with disabilties.

They basically said:

"Well, until you have a diagnosis, you are getting a job, what is your problem" - with the implication that I was some kind of as*hole for not wanting an impossible, minimum wage job.

I have been within the DWP system at various points during my lifetime and I have never encountered any job agency related to the DWP that caters for special needs.

You are expected to seek out a private charity company to help seek work - and they often have high volumes of people and you are the bottom of their priority list.

It is all very grim.

Grim & doom. Dooooom & grim.

I did apply for a disability benefit so that I could get some support catered for people with special needs, but I wasn't disabled enough. I suppose they only help people who are so significantly disabled that they can't work anyway. So, because I could communicate, fill out forms and catch a bus on my own, that wasn't classed as disabled. Never mind that people with mild disabilities like me still find looking for work daunting. I am capable of working, but it has to be a suitable job for me, otherwise I become extremely anxious and panicky. Even some NTs don't cope in certain jobs.
People spend a lot of their lives at work so you can't blame them for being a little bit picky. After all, humans aren't emotionless robots that can be programmed to cope in certain environments. I think the government should be educated on how the human mind works.

The UK government, particularly the Conservative government are literally ret*d.

There are some good eggs in the Conservative party, but in general, they are terrible.

I'm guessing the UK conservative party subscribe to a sink/swim philosophy to motivate people to work. Of course it's easy for conservative policy makers to legislate extra hurdles for vulnerable people to access benefits because they and their families and their constituents are not impacted by them.

There's four angles conservatives take
1. There are scant resources and only the really "deserving" should get benefits
2. If people get on welfare they become dependent and don't want to work
3. Money for welfare should be given back to taxpayers (this is a popular one with voters)
4, If you make it hard to get benefits then unemployed will be motivated to seek any type of work (this last one is also a common argument that unemployed "thumb their noses" at certain jobs, particularly professionals who will stay on benefits until they get a high paying job)

Not a big fan of the r-word, particularly on an autism site.

Conservatives are "thick skinned". They literally don't have compassion for people they deem lazy and good for nothing. They pretend not to notice the impact of their policies, Case in point Margaret Thatcher,
https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... or-society

And you'll find history repeats itself

Not having compassion as a human being, is ret*d, in my opinion. I like that word because it is sufficient to state the absurdity of the Conservative party.

"Hello, we are humans who act like robots, please vote for us."

"We have zero compassion for you or your circumstances, please kiss my ass."

1. Scant resources theory is a myth. Artificial scarcity for the purposes of societal control is a thing.
2. People become more able to work when they aren't eating noodles, three times a day for each meal, whilst watching their energy meter run to the ground.
3. Taxpayers are leeching off of the proletariat, not the other way around.
4. Actually, a lot of people just become criminals or homeless people.

The system is stacked so the "scant" resources thing is a scam when you see the rich living in 50 room mansions, spending millions on jewellery, art, cars, caviar and wine and flying first class or on their private jets to a swiss resort or beach palace.

Scant in this context is mean't to mean offsetting debts we are all still paying off when previous governments took out loans, Whatever is left over is scant.

I understand what you are saying & where you are coming from.

For me, the whole fiat currency set up is a scam. Western bankers rule the world, currently. They do nothing but manage the money of the working class, for their own personal gain.

Neo-capitalism is set up to benefit the rich. It was always a stacked hand of playing cards mean't to ensure the house wins all the time. Casinos are actually a good metaphor for how global capitalism works.

Yep.

For me, a third measure of capitalism & a two-thirds measure of socialism seems like a good societal state to be in (socialism doesn't work without capitalism).

Currently, it's more like 90% capitalism, 10% socialism in the United Kingdom.

Turn the clock back to the 1970's, I think.

Culture needs to go back there, too. There are too many deluded, narcissist matriarchs, running society nowadays, thinking they are liberating people, when really, most people just look at them like they are Margaret Thatcher's.

How ironic that some of them are under the socialist banner.

In general I agree, poverty is a vicious cycle that's difficult to break free from. Not impossible, but certainly not easy, especially in some areas where opportunities may be very limited and people are just.. stuck.

Not always true. I've seen several local McDonald's (and other) restaurants with hiring signs that say something like "Interviews Tuesday 1pm," basically encouraging people to show up with a resume and get interviewed on the spot for a potential job because they're so short staffed.

There's one industrial area of my city that has "hiring," signs on almost every business. It's not exactly super easy to commute to via public transit (but possible) and driving is astronomically expensive, so every business there has difficulty hiring - especially over the last several months/covid. Anyone with steel toed boots and a heartbeat could have a job by the end of the day if they took a trek down that stretch of highway and went in to businesses inquire about jobs.

Plus every skilled trade union is hiring. And healthcare. And driving jobs. And Amazon. And and and almost everyone is hiring and businesses are making it as easy as possible for people to apply and get hired.

My work is hiring & then going to be hiring again and again into different roles over the next 3-12 months as business ramps up. BUT, we don't have a sign out and don't require simple labour - instead we have to put job ads out seeking very specific specialized knowledge, interests, and experience in order to do these particular jobs. We did manage to find a couple great employees via ads, another that was a past prospective hire, another that was a referral from someone we tried to poach from a competitor. The most recent hire who hasn't started yet is a contact of an employee, and so is the next one in the pipeline to bring on board in a few months. We'll likely need to hire a different type of nerd for something else soon, and while we'll post an ad, we'll certainly be leaning on all of our various nerds to see if they already know someone that fits the profile. 100% jobs are gotten via networking/who you know - not always - but very frequently. Thing is, if you don't know people.. you have to meet them. Apply for the job, show up in person and make a good first impression etc.