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23 Mar 2023, 7:05 pm

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at least you had the last word which is a plus point.


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23 Mar 2023, 8:48 pm

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It all could have been avoided if the West hadn't squashed a settlement at the beginning last year.


It all could have been avoided if Putin hadn't decided to start the war.


It staggers the mind that some ppl can't see that.



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23 Mar 2023, 8:57 pm

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It all could have been avoided if the West hadn't squashed a settlement at the beginning last year.


It all could have been avoided if Putin hadn't decided to start the war.


It's not that simple. If you poke a bear long enough, it's going to attack. This invasion was 30 years in the making. Now it's time to end this madness and stop all the death and destruction.


"If Russia stops fighting, there will be no more war.
If Ukrainians stop fighting, there will be no more Ukraine."

Ukraine has made it klear it doesn't want to be conquered by pootin.
If pootin invaded Alaska, would you let him have it?



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23 Mar 2023, 9:01 pm

PEPE CLICK HERE


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23 Mar 2023, 9:03 pm

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When I click on your link, I get this:

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Secure Connection Failed

An error occurred during a connection to strategic-culture.org. PR_END_OF_FILE_ERROR

Error code: PR_END_OF_FILE_ERROR

The page you are trying to view cannot be shown because the authenticity of the received data could not be verified.
Please contact the website owners to inform them of this problem.


Apparently that error most often occurs when using certain VPNs. The link is still working for me.

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Some more misinformation?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_Macgregor

Douglas Abbott Macgregor (born January 4, 1947)[1] is a retired U.S. Army colonel and government official, and an author, consultant, and television commentator.[2] He played a significant role on the battlefield in the Gulf War and the 1999 NATO bombing of Yugoslavia. His 1997 book Breaking the Phalanx established him as an influential if unconventional theorist of military strategy. His thinking contributed to the US strategy in its 2003 invasion of Iraq.

He holds opinions that differ from ones held by fashionistas, so yes I suppose in your book that would count as "misinformation". If you can't get the link to work I posted a two-part video interview of his a few pages ago.


Based on what I have researched, Maccgregor is out of touch.
I wouldn't call what he says as "Disinformation".
I see it as him simply being "misinformed".

He has an opinion.
We don't have to share it. 8)



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23 Mar 2023, 9:06 pm

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It's not that simple. If you poke a bear long enough, it's going to attack. This invasion was 30 years in the making. Now it's time to end this madness and stop all the death and destruction.


You're saying that Ukraine somehow "provoke" Putin to attack? Thirty years ago?

Putin is a disgusting piece of and corruption. He needs to go. To prison.



Plz.
Some respect.
pootin is not a piece of...
He is a psychopathic murdering bastardo. 8)



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23 Mar 2023, 9:10 pm

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It looks like one of Putin's mercenary groups is going to be pulling out of Ukraine. Focusing on doing Putin's dirty work in Africa instead.

https://news.yahoo.com/putin-mercenary- ... _test=0_00


Hopefully, this is True, but I will believe it when I see it.



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23 Mar 2023, 9:27 pm

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It's not that simple. If you poke a bear long enough, it's going to attack. This invasion was 30 years in the making. Now it's time to end this madness and stop all the death and destruction.


You're saying that Ukraine somehow "provoke" Putin to attack? Thirty years ago?

Putin is a disgusting piece of and corruption. He needs to go. To prison.


I'm saying NATO expansion to the borders of Russia was a huge factor. We assured Gorbachev that NATO wouldn't expand one inch beyond the border of a reunified Germany.

There's a lot of corruption in the world, we're neck deep in it. We're being lied to constantly by our media. Putin ain't a good guy, but neither are any of the world leaders. They don't care care about dead Ukrainians. They don't care about human life.


That argument ignores certain realities.
-Russia has the biggest nuklear arsenal in the world. Why would NATO want to deal with that? Everyone was shiteing their pants at the prospect.
-NATO is a DEFENSIVE alliance.
-NATO wasn't pulling its weight in terms of military spending. Trump was pissed because NATO was expecting AAAmeria to do all the heavy lifting. It doesn't sound like NATO was a particular threat to pootin.
It was erroneously thought that Russia had the second most powerful military in the world. The Ukrainians have shown that was a myth.
Conquering Ukraine in 3 days? "I don't think so, Tim". :mrgreen:
-pootin wanted to join NATO also. For whatever reason, it didn't eventuate.
-pootin is an imperialistic expansionist. He has "gobbled up" other sovereign countries "To make Russia great again".
Many are convinced he used false flag operations to invade Chechnia to gain greater political support from the ppl.
I have no doubt believing that.

In conclusion:
pootin would use any excuse to "Make Russia great again". 8)



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23 Mar 2023, 9:30 pm

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I'm saying NATO expansion to the borders of Russia was a huge factor. We assured Gorbachev that NATO wouldn't expand one inch beyond the border of a reunified Germany.


So far, Putin is only attacking non-NATO countries. If Ukraine had joined NATO, then he would have left Ukraine alone. And, since his attack, Sweden and Finland have moved to join NATO. Putin is a madman.

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There's a lot of corruption in the world, we're neck deep in it. We're being lied to constantly by our media. Putin ain't a good guy, but neither are any of the world leaders. They don't care care about dead Ukrainians. They don't care about human life.

Especially Putin. He is a killer. He even murders journalists. He must be stopped.


Journalists, political opponents, animals in the wild.



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23 Mar 2023, 9:45 pm

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Obviously we can't have direct confrontation with Russia. I think most sane minds in Washington and NATO countries know that. There has to be a push for a negotiated peace. Ukraine is going to run out of ammunition sometime this summer, and it can't be replaced. The U.S. and Germany have already given all we can.

It's over for Ukraine. Zelensky will be either dead or in exile when this is over. Maybe a half million dead Ukrainians had to pay for this proxy war. It's disgusting.


They will be given one million artillery shells in forthcoming shipments.
Tanks have been given, and more are on the way.
Jets have been shipped, and more will be coming.
In all probability, more ordinances will be shipped from AAmmeerriiaa until the next Presidential election at least.
Aameriaaan prestige is at stake after the Afghani fiasco.

And the CCP is watching.
A united front against pootin will make Xi think twice.
There is more than Ukraine at stake here.
Short-sightedness is the last thing we need in this situation.

"Glory to Ukraine."
"Glory to the Democrats." 8)



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23 Mar 2023, 9:49 pm

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I think that the West needs to show strength. If we let Putin continue, then it will only be worse for the world as he tries to gobble up more countries.


The only thing dictators such as pootin and Xi respect is military strength.



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23 Mar 2023, 9:53 pm

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@Honey69 he's gone dude, been banned, you are figuratively pissing in the wind replying to him , but at least you had the last word which is a plus point.


I am happy to correct erroneous reasoning even to a corpse. :skull: :mrgreen:



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23 Mar 2023, 10:09 pm

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24 Mar 2023, 4:51 am

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President Xi has left Russia after a three day visit in which Xi promised Putin no military assistance or support for his war in Ukraine. Meanwhile the Japanese Prime Minister visited Ukraine in a show of support for democracy around the world. Kremlin state TV has also finally responded to the ICC's arrest warrant for Putin.