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kraftiekortie
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04 Mar 2022, 5:28 pm

I have seen plenty of YouTube videos depicting what's going on with refugees from the Ukrainian conflict.



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04 Mar 2022, 5:58 pm

I don’t find this is “exploitation.”

I find this will give a nuanced, anecdotal take on what’s going on.

We are fortunate we are not denied the right to do so. Freedom is a very valuable thing, indeed.



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04 Mar 2022, 6:52 pm

Ooo . . . pity porn!

What next, road kill pics?



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04 Mar 2022, 6:53 pm

What do you mean?

Why don't you actually WATCH the video.....



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04 Mar 2022, 7:20 pm

I believe I get a better understanding of "what's going on" by watching, visually, "what's going on," from the people enduring all this---rather than relying solely on news reports. Not saying that news reports are useless.....but I believe it would paint a fuller picture of what's going on if they were supplemented by people giving anecdotal accounts of what's going on.

Unfortunately, there is more room for bias within the YouTube medium.....but I like to think that I am able to sift through the bullcrap and get at the heart of the matter through various media. YouTube is a great resource, when used properly. No, I don't formulate opinions merely through watching YouTube videos. I also let Google "be my friend."

If I don't actually see refugees enduring what they are enduring, what they are "going through" becomes too abstract. I don't feel as much of the full impact of what they are enduring. Thus, I wouldn't be able to fully commiserate with them with relative understanding.



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04 Mar 2022, 8:19 pm

These refugees are being attacked by Ukrainians, Russians, Poles and other refugees

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04 Mar 2022, 8:23 pm

It would be better if this were a video....this doesn't really tell me all that much.

Yes, of course there is racism. But there is also anti-racism, too.



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04 Mar 2022, 10:01 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
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Yes, of course there is racism. But there is also anti-racism, too.


If Ukrainians want non-European countries to support them they could start by being compassionate to innocent victims instead of using the exodus to vent out their own ugliness (I don't see how these Ukrainian or Polish guards are any better than the Russians who are supposed to be evil?) on hapless people who originally came to their country to better themselves and their lives.



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04 Mar 2022, 10:03 pm



I have little sympathy for Ukrainians when they do this. They are no better than the Russians they hate.



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04 Mar 2022, 10:16 pm

Of course not.

But most Ukrainians aren’t like that.



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04 Mar 2022, 10:17 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
Of course not.

But most Ukrainians aren’t like that.


Neither are most Russians



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05 Mar 2022, 12:04 am

Why are you defending the Russians?

They are the aggressors. They started an unjustifiable war for no reason.

Putin, that is.



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05 Mar 2022, 5:28 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
Why are you defending the Russians?

They are the aggressors. They started an unjustifiable war for no reason.

Putin, that is.



Because he’s probably Right leaning.



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05 Mar 2022, 5:58 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
Why are you defending the Russians?

They are the aggressors. They started an unjustifiable war for no reason.

Putin, that is.



Because he’s probably Right leaning.


c'mon guys. I've been accused of being an extreme lefty and now I'm right wing :roll:



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05 Mar 2022, 6:01 am

^ :lol:



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05 Mar 2022, 6:38 am

You have racists in Australia, too. Australia might be said to have a “disgraceful” records against minorities.

I still wouldn’t like it if China invaded it, and destroyed its infrastructure.

It’s about PERSPECTIVE, man……