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07 Mar 2022, 4:54 pm

I'm saddened by the the loss of RT America on YouTube in the wake of the Ukranian invasion. There were many good American journalists worth listening to on that channel. Sad!


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07 Mar 2022, 10:30 pm

that's the nasty thing about RT - and Russian media in general: they have interesting intellectuals, good journalists - but also bad journalits who will say the opposite, and complete lunatics, mixed with a pinch of outright propaganda. After a day of watching RT, it's impossible to know anything with any degree of certainty anymore. Anything might be true, even that neo-Nazis and the US were threatening Russia.


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08 Mar 2022, 4:14 am

RT has always had a slippery relationship with the truth. They tend to promote conspiracy theorists from all sorts of political backgrounds, from people who think Seth Rich was murdered to people who think 5G causes disease.

You would hope that their closure would cause their viewers to get their news from more reliable sources, but of course there is a risk that they’ll continue to primarily consume low-quality news. All the same, good riddance to bad rubbish.



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08 Mar 2022, 6:59 am

RT America was one of the primary reasons why I now tell people, “Never let YouTube do your thinking for you”, and for the reasons the Tusked One and many others have stated.



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08 Mar 2022, 7:49 am

Russian media have found a way to appeal to Americans who are dissatisfied for whatever reason, regardless of where they are on the political spectrum. If only they would stick to porn.


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08 Mar 2022, 9:05 am

The_Walrus wrote:
RT has always had a slippery relationship with the truth. They tend to promote conspiracy theorists from all sorts of political backgrounds, from people who think Seth Rich was murdered to people who think 5G causes disease.

You would hope that their closure would cause their viewers to get their news from more reliable sources, but of course there is a risk that they’ll continue to primarily consume low-quality news. All the same, good riddance to bad rubbish.


Seth Rich was murdered, two shots to the back in what police think was attempted robbery.



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08 Mar 2022, 10:35 am

I doubt if anyone who has condemned RT America in this thread has ever seen any of its content.


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08 Mar 2022, 10:52 am

txfz1 wrote:
The_Walrus wrote:
RT has always had a slippery relationship with the truth. They tend to promote conspiracy theorists from all sorts of political backgrounds, from people who think Seth Rich was murdered to people who think 5G causes disease.

You would hope that their closure would cause their viewers to get their news from more reliable sources, but of course there is a risk that they’ll continue to primarily consume low-quality news. All the same, good riddance to bad rubbish.


Seth Rich was murdered, two shots to the back in what police think was attempted robbery.

Quite right, I should have said “murdered for political reasons”.



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08 Mar 2022, 3:29 pm

It's a sad commentary that people will post mainstream media links all day long, and believe the propaganda they're told about RT America. Brainwashed fools who only spout "received opinions" without doing any research of their own.

Sad times we live in. It's only going to get worse.


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08 Mar 2022, 4:34 pm

I am very familiar with RT. The comments by Walrus and Shailfu ring true.

I used to watch foreign news on the Megahertz family of networks. I especially liked Jazeera, but I liked RT too.

I miss Al Jazeera America (now defunct), and I miss regular old English language Al Jazeera. I used to get both of those and RT, on cable TV. But you cant get any of them anymore on cable.

RT was free of the shackles of American commercial sponsors, but was a slave to the Russian state. So you got roughly the same ratio of bs to truth as you got from American news, but a different pattern of bs/truth. So it was good to get its pov. But even in the best of times (when Russia wasnt aggressing) you had to still take RT with a pillar of salt. But it had good as well as bad on it, as walrus said.

Thom Hartman got his start on RT, and I still listen to him Utube. Interestingly he apparently left RT sometime during the Trump years. His anti Trump stance may have something to do with he and RT parting ways.

During the Arab spring you could surf back and forth between Jazeera and RT to see how both covered the fall of Khaddaffi in Libya- because both would run stories on it at the same time. Though both networks are notorious for being "anti American" their coverage of the same war in Libya was markedly different. A Martian would have thought that Earth had two different countries named "Libya".

RT would demonize NATO and focused on the bombing - and would point the camera at Libyan civilians in hospitals.

Jazeera demonized Khaddaffi, cheered NATO on, and focused on angry long simmering Libyan civilians finally rising up, and show them drawing graffitti on the walls showing Khaddaffi with vampire fangs dripping with blood.

Thats was the beauty of MegaHertz. You got different povs between different foreign outlets as well as getting foreign vs American povs. Quite the smorgasbord.

But even if an American could access RT right now...it would probably only be good for laughs. I cant imagine how even RT could put propaganda lipstick on this pig of a situation.



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08 Mar 2022, 5:09 pm

^^^You have obviously never listened to American journalists on RT America, so you aren't qualified to enter this discussion. Chris Hedges was one of the great voices I enjoyed, who actually talked more on literature on that channel, rather than politics.

It's a sad state of affairs. Even if I didn't agree with any of the content in RT America, I'd still be opposed to this censorship. Cheering this type of censorship is revolting. People need to wake the f**k up!


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08 Mar 2022, 6:12 pm

VegetableMan wrote:
^^^You have obviously never listened to American journalists on RT America, so you aren't qualified to enter this discussion. Chris Hedges was one of the great voices I enjoyed, who actually talked more on literature on that channel, rather than politics.

It's a sad state of affairs. Even if I didn't agree with any of the content in RT America, I'd still be opposed to this censorship. Cheering this type of censorship is revolting. People need to wake the f**k up!


1) have seen American reporters on RT.

2) you're not qualified to say who is "qualified" to enter any discussion.

3) And...by trying to censor me in the same post that you're crying about censorhip you just deftly slit your own throat and demolished yourself. :lol: :lol: :lol:



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08 Mar 2022, 6:23 pm

naturalplastic wrote:
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^^^You have obviously never listened to American journalists on RT America, so you aren't qualified to enter this discussion. Chris Hedges was one of the great voices I enjoyed, who actually talked more on literature on that channel, rather than politics.

It's a sad state of affairs. Even if I didn't agree with any of the content in RT America, I'd still be opposed to this censorship. Cheering this type of censorship is revolting. People need to wake the f**k up!


1) have seen American reporters on RT.

2) you're not qualified to say who is "qualified" to enter any discussion.

3) And...by trying to censor me in the same post that you're crying about censorhip you just deftly slit your own throat and demolished yourself. :lol: :lol: :lol:


I'm not trying to censor you. I'm just giving an opinion based on your comments. I honestly don't believe you've watched very much content on RT America. And if you did, you have been far too brainwashed by U.S. corporate media to understand the value of the content.

That's my honest opinion. No censorship involved, unlike the censorship involved in removing RT America from YouTube.

Are you getting the point yet? Probably not.


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08 Mar 2022, 7:42 pm

naturalplastic wrote:
VegetableMan wrote:
^^^You have obviously never listened to American journalists on RT America, so you aren't qualified to enter this discussion. Chris Hedges was one of the great voices I enjoyed, who actually talked more on literature on that channel, rather than politics.

It's a sad state of affairs. Even if I didn't agree with any of the content in RT America, I'd still be opposed to this censorship. Cheering this type of censorship is revolting. People need to wake the f**k up!


1) have seen American reporters on RT.

2) you're not qualified to say who is "qualified" to enter any discussion.

3) And...by trying to censor me in the same post that you're crying about censorhip you just deftly slit your own throat and demolished yourself. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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08 Mar 2022, 8:27 pm

I remember when C-SPAN showed the Moscow Evening News (this was in the early 90s). The Russian network was News 1, which was dubbed in English on C-Span.

Russia’s official news agency is TASS.


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08 Mar 2022, 8:55 pm

The lemmings will keep leeping to their deaths until there is nobody left to sound the alarm.


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