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13 Mar 2022, 12:32 am

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How to Tell the Difference Between a Psychopath and a Narcissist




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13 Mar 2022, 12:46 am

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Narcissist, Psychopath, or Sociopath: How to Spot the Differences | Dr Ramani x MedCircle




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14 Mar 2022, 8:14 pm

I just look at the core aspects, as it's too hard to determine otherwise due to too much overlap with one another, various presentations, and how the traits can be found in anyone to various amounts. Generally:

Psychopath = a lack of empathy with almost no emotions and downright cold cruelty against humans/animals; they want to gain tangible things (they're often violent)
Narcissism = a lack of empathy with emotions and internal emptiness that leads to behaviors that boost their own ego/self-esteem (since they feel empty); they want to gain emotional things that make them feel better (not much different to anyone else with violence)

The latter aren't too bad, other than making relationships an emotional bother (both do suffer), along with making say, people into Echoists if parents/siblings are such (which is a form of Narcissism in a way because they're still self-absorbed). Easy to spot.

Psychopaths are a real bother, and are harder to spot, often until far too late.



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14 Mar 2022, 8:37 pm

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Psychopaths are a real bother, and are harder to spot, often until far too late.


I think the world would be a better place without them. 8)



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27 Apr 2023, 4:50 pm

Dillogic wrote:
I just look at the core aspects, as it's too hard to determine otherwise due to too much overlap with one another, various presentations, and how the traits can be found in anyone to various amounts. Generally:

Psychopath = a lack of empathy with almost no emotions and downright cold cruelty against humans/animals; they want to gain tangible things (they're often violent)
Narcissism = a lack of empathy with emotions and internal emptiness that leads to behaviors that boost their own ego/self-esteem (since they feel empty); they want to gain emotional things that make them feel better (not much different to anyone else with violence)



I think this a good way to differentiate the two. I think about each in a similar way. Psychopaths seek power and resources. Narcissists seek adoration and adulation. And the way each seeks these things is on a level far, far beyond that of the average person.



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27 Apr 2023, 11:17 pm

Kaioken wrote:
Dillogic wrote:
I just look at the core aspects, as it's too hard to determine otherwise due to too much overlap with one another, various presentations, and how the traits can be found in anyone to various amounts. Generally:

Psychopath = a lack of empathy with almost no emotions and downright cold cruelty against humans/animals; they want to gain tangible things (they're often violent)
Narcissism = a lack of empathy with emotions and internal emptiness that leads to behaviors that boost their own ego/self-esteem (since they feel empty); they want to gain emotional things that make them feel better (not much different to anyone else with violence)



I think this a good way to differentiate the two. I think about each in a similar way. Psychopaths seek power and resources. Narcissists seek adoration and adulation. And the way each seeks these things is on a level far, far beyond that of the average person.


A friend of mine used to say: "Narcissists are respect driven".



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28 Apr 2023, 6:46 am

Pepe wrote:

A friend of mine used to say: "Narcissists are respect driven".


That’s a good quote



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29 Apr 2023, 11:50 pm

Narcissists won't reciprocate much, Psychopaths are are bit more rational and may come off a bit less shallow initially, I think.



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29 Apr 2023, 11:58 pm

RandoNLD wrote:
Narcissists won't reciprocate much, Psychopaths are are bit more rational and may come off a bit less shallow initially, I think.


My understanding is that psychopaths are much more calculating and less emotional, yes.



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30 Apr 2023, 10:17 am

Pepe wrote:
My understanding is that psychopaths are much more calculating and less emotional, yes.


Yes, and psychopaths are able to use anger instrumentally. Even if they don’t feel anger, they sometimes fake anger in order to get what they want.



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30 Apr 2023, 4:34 pm

Narcissists are also less likely to reciprocate when a group mentality is necessary for things like life or death situations; I've known different people with both traits and I have to say, the self-interested psychopath who knew I increased their chances of surviving dangerous situations we were in together was better to have around than the narcissist any day.



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01 May 2023, 4:17 am

RandoNLD wrote:
Narcissists are also less likely to reciprocate when a group mentality is necessary for things like life or death situations; I've known different people with both traits and I have to say, the self-interested psychopath who knew I increased their chances of surviving dangerous situations we were in together was better to have around than the narcissist any day.


Both would probably "throw you under the bus" if it meant their survival, no doubt in my mind. 8O

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01 May 2023, 12:03 pm

RandoNLD wrote:
Narcissists are also less likely to reciprocate when a group mentality is necessary for things like life or death situations; I've known different people with both traits and I have to say, the self-interested psychopath who knew I increased their chances of surviving dangerous situations we were in together was better to have around than the narcissist any day.


I know a narcissist and a I know psychopath. And I find the psychopath easier to deal with than the narcissist.



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03 May 2023, 1:24 am

Kaioken wrote:
RandoNLD wrote:
Narcissists are also less likely to reciprocate when a group mentality is necessary for things like life or death situations; I've known different people with both traits and I have to say, the self-interested psychopath who knew I increased their chances of surviving dangerous situations we were in together was better to have around than the narcissist any day.


I know a narcissist and a I know psychopath. And I find the psychopath easier to deal with than the narcissist.


Yes, research done within the last few years has determined Psychopaths do have remorse among other emotions and I've always noticed acquaintances with Psychopathic traits are better at handling dangerous situations. The more Narcissistic acquaintances are worse friends all around.



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03 May 2023, 3:34 am

RandoNLD wrote:
Kaioken wrote:
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Narcissists are also less likely to reciprocate when a group mentality is necessary for things like life or death situations; I've known different people with both traits and I have to say, the self-interested psychopath who knew I increased their chances of surviving dangerous situations we were in together was better to have around than the narcissist any day.


I know a narcissist and a I know psychopath. And I find the psychopath easier to deal with than the narcissist.


Yes, research done within the last few years has determined Psychopaths do have remorse among other emotions and I've always noticed acquaintances with Psychopathic traits are better at handling dangerous situations. The more Narcissistic acquaintances are worse friends all around.


I haven't come across that.
Could you post a link that supports that belief?



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06 May 2023, 12:00 am

I can't remember the journal that mentioned Psychopaths have remorse, but I wasn't surprised as Antisocial Personality Disorder; "Psychopathy" has a failure or refusal to change one's behavior as a feature.