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SkinnedWolf
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25 Mar 2022, 4:48 am

I have a lot of trouble remembering images, but I don't think that's the biggest reason why I have trouble remembering faces.

When I talk to people face to face, I look elsewhere to frame my speech.
When I watch the video, I am reading the subtitles.
If I didn't pay attention to other people's faces at all, it would be impossible to remember them.


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25 Mar 2022, 8:33 am

HiccupHaddock wrote:
This is a very interesting topic. I'm wondering, for those of you that cannot visualise or recognise faces, do you have dreams in which people appear that you recognise, or do you not have dreams about people you know? Almost all of my dreams are about places/people I recognise, so am just curious what your dreams are like?


I somehow know who a person is supposed to be in my dreams. A lot of times the person in the dream is symbolic rather than straight up portrayal of whoever it is supposed to be in the dream. The images are not usually very clear, but the ideas in them are. (ssri meds changed this and gave me intolerably graphic and bloodywith lasting horror dreams until I went off of them though)
The part of the brain used for dreaming is completely separate from the part that allows us to visualize while awake. The function of one part of the brain may not be altered at all, while the other is very changed or different from what "normal" people experience. So interesting!


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25 Mar 2022, 4:22 pm

I'm said to have great tech & art-lit creativity, and well visualize lots. I truly don't know what that means tho, so it's all other's "said" stuff" I did not know that I can't recognize people via their faces, till some very difficult late in life "blunders" made it obvious. I identify people by time-place associations, body English and voice. I pretty much hate "social eye contact"??, and am only recently, @ age 79, becomig aware of that. My "fake eye contact" is actually mouth watching, also a recent discovery, but I read a lot of people-social stuff pretty well that way. I think I get my entire "people-social info," what others call eye reading, as mouth reading, so I call mine."fake eye reading." I draw/sketch a lot and can get face stuff from photos & pictures OK, but not from live life. I'm trying to get real life faces "capture" by forced drawing work at it. It's hard and not fun, but I'm gaining a bit. I'm also told, and kindof believe, that my "felt reality" is all in/as abstractions! That may be a hidden couloring for all of the above?? Accept please, my appolpgies for the long post. I hope it helps you. (I'm not yet spectrum diagnosed so may not know of what I "WP" write!)



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30 Mar 2022, 1:38 pm

HiccupHaddock wrote:
This is a very interesting topic. I'm wondering, for those of you that cannot visualise or recognise faces, do you have dreams in which people appear that you recognise, or do you not have dreams about people you know? Almost all of my dreams are about places/people I recognise, so am just curious what your dreams are like?


I do have dreams about people but I don't see their faces clearly, more like a blur which is what happens when I try to visualise people while awake. The only exception to this is when I suddenly dream about someone who has died and their face is as clear as day. This doesn't happen often though.



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30 Mar 2022, 3:24 pm

Firemonkey and Autisticelders thank you both so much as you have helped me put a name to yet another of my oddities. I had known I had prospagnosia since I was little and realized recognizing people was much harder for me than everyone else. I didn't know the name till much later, but I grew up in a small town, where everyone knew everyone else except me.
Anyway, there is an aphantasia website, just google it, and it has a test called a VVIQ questionaire. This test provides a measure of your visual imagery. I don't have much scored 21.
There is some interesting research about aphantasia and its effects on autistic people which has come out of the University of Sussex, Brighton, UK. They used the VVIQ in their research with a cutoff value of 32 or less being considered aphantasic. My read is that autistics with apantasia may show less sensory difficulties, but if that kind of thing interests you please check it out there's a lot of info there.
By the way, firemonkey, I thought my 126/73 was enough.