Should I just give up on getting a corporate
29 Mar 2022, 11:59 pm
I would say that he needs to be realistic about the type of corporate job he could reasonably get at this point. Plenty of people who got good grades in college are serving coffee at Starbucks. Not to say that is the best he can do, but he needs to show some work history and proven work ethic.
I practiced law at the highest levels in New York City, and I wasn't too proud to take a job stocking groceries at Walmart when I was down and out. Any job is better than no job.
Any job that refuses to pay a living wage is worse than no job at all because all it will do is use up the time and energy one could invest into finding one that does.
Ya one time I was forced to bag groceries and take care of the carts for months without so much as a penny for my hours of free labor i at least want to make living wage
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30 Mar 2022, 12:07 am
I would say that he needs to be realistic about the type of corporate job he could reasonably get at this point. Plenty of people who got good grades in college are serving coffee at Starbucks. Not to say that is the best he can do, but he needs to show some work history and proven work ethic.
I practiced law at the highest levels in New York City, and I wasn't too proud to take a job stocking groceries at Walmart when I was down and out. Any job is better than no job.
Any job that refuses to pay a living wage is worse than no job at all because all it will do is use up the time and energy one could invest into finding one that does.
Ya one time I was forced to bag groceries and take care of the carts for months without so much as a penny for my hours of free labor i at least want to make living wage
Not being paid at all is atrocious, but I was actually thinking more like enough to pay for a roof over your head so all of a sudden you had choices beyond living with your folks considering some of the other things you've discussed in the past.
Sometimes people wonder why someone doesn't remove themselves from abuse while overlooking that a lack of other options might make leaving the situation not a viable option. People's abilities to be free and to protect themselves are often dependent upon other considerations, protecting people from the worst risks of leaving their situation gives them more control over whether or not a situation must be tolerated.
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30 Mar 2022, 12:10 am
I would say that he needs to be realistic about the type of corporate job he could reasonably get at this point. Plenty of people who got good grades in college are serving coffee at Starbucks. Not to say that is the best he can do, but he needs to show some work history and proven work ethic.
I practiced law at the highest levels in New York City, and I wasn't too proud to take a job stocking groceries at Walmart when I was down and out. Any job is better than no job.
Any job that refuses to pay a living wage is worse than no job at all because all it will do is use up the time and energy one could invest into finding one that does.
Ya one time I was forced to bag groceries and take care of the carts for months without so much as a penny for my hours of free labor i at least want to make living wage
Not being paid at all is atrocious, but I was actually thinking more like enough to pay for a roof over your head so all of a sudden you had choices beyond living with your folks considering some of the other things you've discussed in the past.
Sometimes people wonder why someone doesn't remove themselves from abuse while overlooking that a lack of other options might make leaving the situation not a viable option. People's abilities to be free and to protect themselves are often dependent upon other considerations, protecting people from the worst risks of leaving their situation gives them more control over whether or not a situation must be tolerated.
Right that is good reasoning but I just am biding my time
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30 Mar 2022, 12:20 am
I get that, I'm glad you have that option but I'm just as worried about the hypothetical someone similar who doesn't have that option since you're not alone in being in that sorta situation.
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30 Mar 2022, 7:09 am
I would say that he needs to be realistic about the type of corporate job he could reasonably get at this point. Plenty of people who got good grades in college are serving coffee at Starbucks. Not to say that is the best he can do, but he needs to show some work history and proven work ethic.
I practiced law at the highest levels in New York City, and I wasn't too proud to take a job stocking groceries at Walmart when I was down and out. Any job is better than no job.
Any job that refuses to pay a living wage is worse than no job at all because all it will do is use up the time and energy one could invest into finding one that does.
Nothing about holding a job precludes someone for looking for a better job. People do so all the time.
In the meantime, working a job is better than no job. You are out meeting people, socializing with others, making money if not as much as you would like, building up work history and proven work ethic, and maybe learning a thing or two.
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30 Mar 2022, 7:26 am
I would say that he needs to be realistic about the type of corporate job he could reasonably get at this point. Plenty of people who got good grades in college are serving coffee at Starbucks. Not to say that is the best he can do, but he needs to show some work history and proven work ethic.
I practiced law at the highest levels in New York City, and I wasn't too proud to take a job stocking groceries at Walmart when I was down and out. Any job is better than no job.
Any job that refuses to pay a living wage is worse than no job at all because all it will do is use up the time and energy one could invest into finding one that does.
Nothing about holding a job precludes someone for looking for a better job. People do so all the time.
In the meantime, working a job is better than no job. You are out meeting people, socializing with others, making money if not as much as you would like, building up work history and proven work ethic, and maybe learning a thing or two.
It's a matter of what one can manage in terms of energy levels, any job is not better than no job because any job includes jobs that will leave one too depleted to search for viable employment. The notion that any job is better than no job can trap being in long cycles of unstable, unsuitable employment that doesn't serve their best interests.
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30 Mar 2022, 1:07 pm
I get that, I'm glad you have that option but I'm just as worried about the hypothetical someone similar who doesn't have that option since you're not alone in being in that sorta situation.
Good point
17 Apr 2022, 7:24 am
you can find out everything you need from free or dirt cheap tutorials
You could work or someone else or work for yourself
I am working on doing website design as a business I found a friend who wants to partner with me on it it would go towards funding my church so it’s kind of a two for one in that respect
Have you thought of getting a virtual private server and get clients to pay you each month for hosting?
How would I get a virtual private server?
17 Apr 2022, 5:04 pm
Sorry if I missed this, but what is your degree in?
For whatever it's worth, these days, in a lot of fields, a degree will help you move up, but isn't necessarily a foot in the door.
It sounds like at this time you aren't on your own financially and may have some family support? If that is the case, and you aren't under as much pressure to make ends meet as other people, then you may want to consider an internship or temp work to gain experience in other work environments and build from there.
17 Apr 2022, 6:39 pm
For whatever it's worth, these days, in a lot of fields, a degree will help you move up, but isn't necessarily a foot in the door.
It sounds like at this time you aren't on your own financially and may have some family support? If that is the case, and you aren't under as much pressure to make ends meet as other people, then you may want to consider an internship or temp work to gain experience in other work environments and build from there.
I have a liberal arts degree.I dont want to work a unpaid internship because I want to make money.
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17 Apr 2022, 6:40 pm
For whatever it's worth, these days, in a lot of fields, a degree will help you move up, but isn't necessarily a foot in the door.
It sounds like at this time you aren't on your own financially and may have some family support? If that is the case, and you aren't under as much pressure to make ends meet as other people, then you may want to consider an internship or temp work to gain experience in other work environments and build from there.
I have a liberal arts degree.I dont want to work a unpaid internship because I want to make money.
21 Apr 2022, 10:17 pm
As I said to you some time ago Mr Texas, was it a year ago or was it two years?
A job
Any job
Any job at all.
Go and work at McDonalds.
Mow lawns
Deliver junk mail.
Anywhere you can get your foot in the door and do even menial work.
Anything at all to have employment and be bringing in money.
Right now you are UNEMPLOYED.
Accept any Mc job that you can, and then you can focus on working up from there.
Employers don't care that you've got a degree. A degree is just a piece of paper. It doesn't show that you can be a valuable employee and bring money into the business.
Can you be a conscientious employee?
Get your arse in to work every shift without being late?
Be polite to the clients?
Work soundly with your colleagues?
You need to prove that you are able to get onside with an employer and help them earn money.
They don't want you for your good looks, they want you because you are able to make them money.
That's the crux of every job in the world.
A year or two has passed now. Get yourself a job, any job at all PRONTO!
Your degree doesn't mean jack if you don't have some sort of working history and can show you are currently working.
Sheesh why are you so fussy and hard to please?
What can you do right now to establish a track record to an employer that you are worth having onboard?
21 Apr 2022, 10:44 pm
A job
Any job
Any job at all.
Go and work at McDonalds.
Mow lawns
Deliver junk mail.
Anywhere you can get your foot in the door and do even menial work.
Anything at all to have employment and be bringing in money.
Right now you are UNEMPLOYED.
Accept any Mc job that you can, and then you can focus on working up from there.
Employers don't care that you've got a degree. A degree is just a piece of paper. It doesn't show that you can be a valuable employee and bring money into the business.
Can you be a conscientious employee?
Get your arse in to work every shift without being late?
Be polite to the clients?
Work soundly with your colleagues?
You need to prove that you are able to get onside with an employer and help them earn money.
They don't want you for your good looks, they want you because you are able to make them money.
That's the crux of every job in the world.
A year or two has passed now. Get yourself a job, any job at all PRONTO!
Your degree doesn't mean jack if you don't have some sort of working history and can show you are currently working.
Sheesh why are you so fussy and hard to please?
What can you do right now to establish a track record to an employer that you are worth having onboard?
Well I am working on the state to help me find a job.I am not legally permitted to work full-time and I have to legally rely on the state of Texas to help me find a job. Its either that or be a trust fund baby for the rest of my life.The state of Texas promised me that they would find a job that was not a McJob.The state of Texas is trying to get me a job with a office in the metro.I do have a couple of odd jobs.
22 Apr 2022, 12:02 am
How can you be legally required to go through a government body to get a job?
Are any businesses around you hiring? Menial jobs? Dirty jobs? Odd hours?
Don't rely on the government to do jack for you. You and I both know they won't do squat.
This is something you have to take into your own hands to organise.
Accept any and all jobs you can get. Juggle multiple jobs.
You will learn the "soft" skills you need to work with other people. Prove to your employer you are a diligent hard worker who is always polite, on time and can be relied on. Work your way up from there.
Low level jobs aren't rocket science, you don't need specialised skills to do them. I put myself through uni mowing lawns, cleaning bins and toilets, delivering junk mail, labouring for a builder and then got a job as a personal carer where I did pretty much the same thing whilst taking care of a person with a disability. When my boss saw what I was made of I was offered more weekend (independent working) and overnight shifts. Multiple shift penalties stacked up to bring in the dollars. I never said no to extra shifts. There were opportunities to study on overnight shifts when my client was asleep and I had done the household chores. When I finished uni I got a referee report from the boss which helped me get my first job as a newgrad.
If you're 30-something and come to the table as an unemployed person without any skills or experience, what sort of job do you expect an employer to offer you?
22 Apr 2022, 12:28 am
Are any businesses around you hiring? Menial jobs? Dirty jobs? Odd hours?
Don't rely on the government to do jack for you. You and I both know they won't do squat.
This is something you have to take into your own hands to organise.
Accept any and all jobs you can get. Juggle multiple jobs.
You will learn the "soft" skills you need to work with other people. Prove to your employer you are a diligent hard worker who is always polite, on time and can be relied on. Work your way up from there.
Low level jobs aren't rocket science, you don't need specialised skills to do them. I put myself through uni mowing lawns, cleaning bins and toilets, delivering junk mail, labouring for a builder and then got a job as a personal carer where I did pretty much the same thing whilst taking care of a person with a disability. When my boss saw what I was made of I was offered more weekend (independent working) and overnight shifts. Multiple shift penalties stacked up to bring in the dollars. I never said no to extra shifts. There were opportunities to study on overnight shifts when my client was asleep and I had done the household chores. When I finished uni I got a referee report from the boss which helped me get my first job as a newgrad.
If you're 30-something and come to the table as an unemployed person without any skills or experience, what sort of job do you expect an employer to offer you?
Well i thought that there was a good chance that disabled people are assigned to get jobs in Texas through the state.Well anyways...I dont know the incentive I have to even work because legally I have to give my parents control over all money or I lose my healthcare.If I lose my healthcare, I would be dead by 40 or 50 or 60.I just want a enty level job working at a office that requires a bachelor's degree.I just want the type of job they would give a new college grad fresh out of school.
