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25 Jun 2022, 8:44 pm

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So when are the unwed mother’s homes making a come back?
Here it was Florence Crittenton homes for girls.People were still sticking their daughters in them when I was a teenager.One of my friends had to stay at one, her parents couldn’t bear the shame of a pregnant unwed teen under their roof.
https://www.thelily.com/a-shame-filled- ... ir-babies/


Making American great again like the 1950s :roll:

It was the late seventies when they stuck Missy in there.


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25 Jun 2022, 8:48 pm

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So when are the unwed mother’s homes making a come back?
Here it was Florence Crittenton homes for girls.People were still sticking their daughters in them when I was a teenager.One of my friends had to stay at one, her parents couldn’t bear the shame of a pregnant unwed teen under their roof.
https://www.thelily.com/a-shame-filled- ... ir-babies/


Making American great again like the 1950s :roll:

It was the late seventies when they stuck Missy in there.


Yes well overturning archaic laws doesn't mean the populace or the institutions that serve the people become progressive overnight. White residents in California were still attacking black people in 1975 for daring to swim at a beach which is decades after segregation was supposed to have been outlawed.



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25 Jun 2022, 8:54 pm

That makes sense.

So now that the law has been changed, what are the rules when it comes to abortion now then, or what are the limitations?



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25 Jun 2022, 9:04 pm

Here's some info about the risks of hormonal contraception.

I'm pretty sure condoms don't have the same risks for boys and men.

https://www.brown.edu/campus-life/healt ... trol-pills

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What are the side effects of birth control pills?

Like all medicines, birth control pills have possible side effects that you need to be aware of. There are minor side effects and also rare but serious side effects.

Minor side effects of BCPs:

Nausea

Some users experience some mild nausea when first starting birth control pills. Usually this goes away within a short time. Taking your pill with food or taking it before bedtime may help. If you have persistent problems or unusually severe nausea, contact your provider.

Breast tenderness or enlargement

Mild breast tenderness or enlargement may occur after starting birth control pills. The tenderness can be reduced by decreasing your caffeine and salt intake and by wearing a bra with good support. Usually it gets better within a few weeks. If you notice persistent discomfort or a discrete lump, make an appointment with your provider.

Headaches

If you develop new headaches while on birth control pills, contact your provider.

Spotting or breakthrough bleeding

This is vaginal bleeding that occurs during your active pills. This is a common side effect during the first 3 months of birth control pills use and up to 50% of users may experience this. By the third pack of pills, 90% of users are no longer experiencing spotting. Some may notice some mild menstrual cramping with the spotting but this should resolve for most by the third pack of pills as well. Contraceptive effectiveness is present even with spotting, as long as no pills have been missed.

If you are experiencing light bleeding on your active pills that lasts longer than 5 days, or heavier bleeding lasting more than 3 days, contact your provider.

Missed periods or amenorrhea

Sometimes a user may take all her pills correctly and will not get a period. This can happen for a variety of reasons including stress, illness and travel and, rarely, thyroid or other hormonal issues. A pregnancy test would be advised before starting a new pack of pills. If you have missed pills and don't get your period, or your period is very light, it is particularly important to take a pregnancy test.

If you continue to experience amenorrhea (absence of your period), contact your provider. A change to another birth control pill can help.

Weight gain

Many patients ask about this side effect. Studies have shown that weight changes in people on birth control pills are no different than among people who don't take birth control pills. 3 placebo-controlled randomized clinical studies have demonstrated birth control pills do not cause weight changes. However, some users may react to the hormones with mild fluid retention in some tissue around the breasts and hips.

Mood changes

Some users may notice changes in their emotional status: depressed mood or emotional instability. If you have a history of depression, discuss this with your provider. It is important to monitor your progress carefully when starting birth control pills. If you notice changes in your mood after beginning birth control pills, promptly contact your provider.

Decreased sex drive

While your sex drive is affected by many things, the hormones in birth control pills can be a factor in decreased sex drive. If you are noticing this side effect persistently, let your provider know. A change to another pill or another method of contraception may be considered.

Vaginal discharge

A slight increase in the amount of discharge can occur for some users. Others may notice decreased lubrication with intercourse. Neither change is harmful and added lubrication can be used as needed to make sex comfortable.

Contact lens use

Rarely, users who wear contacts may notice some visual changes or change in lens tolerance. Consultation with your opthalmologist can help with this.



Rare but serious side effects:


Blood clots

BCPs can make users slightly more prone to form blood clots. A blood clot can occur in a vein or artery and can have different symptoms depending on where it forms. Clots can occur in the legs, abdomen, heart, lungs, eye, or brain. In the brain, a clot could manifest as a stroke. The risk of these events occurring is very low, but increases in people over 35, in smokers, and in those with high blood pressure, heart disease, diabetes, clotting tendency, or a family history of clotting abnormalities. The warning signs of a blood clot spell out the word ACHES:

Abdominal pain


Chest pain (also shortness of breath)

Headaches (especially those that are new, severe, or associated with persistent dizziness, difficulty speaking, fainting,numbness or weakness in extremities

Eye problems (blurred vision or loss of vision)

Severe leg pain (and/or redness and swelling in the calf or thigh)

If you develop any of the ACHES side effects or jaundice (a yellowing of the eyes or skin) while on birth control pills, call Health Services right away at 401.863-1330. If you need emergency medical attention, call EMS at 401.863-4111. If you are out of town, contact a local health provider or go to a hospital emergency room.

High blood pressure

Birth control pills can raise your blood pressure. This is why your medical provider will check your blood pressure a few months after you begin taking the birth control pills.

Liver tumors

Birth control pills have been associated with an increased risk of forming benign liver tumors. This is a very rare occurrence, but you should contact your provider if you develop upper abdominal pain while taking birth control pills. Additionally, birth control pills may accelerate the formation of gallbladder stones in users who have a strong family history of gallstone disease.

Breast cancer risk

Many patients ask about how birth control pills affect their future risk of developing breast cancer. Most of the literature suggests that use of the birth control pill has little if any effect on the risk of breast cancer. One more recent study did show an elevated risk of breast cancer among long term users of the pill, but the increase in risk was still small.

Cervical cancer risk

The risk of developing this type of cancer is slightly increased in birth control pills users. Fortunately, routine Pap smear testing is an excellent screening tool.



This details the groups of individuals who are at highest risk of health complications:

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https://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn ... ntrol-pill

How safe is the birth control pill?


The birth control pill is safe for most people, but all medicines have some risks and side effects. Your doctor will help you figure out if the pill is safe for you.

Is the birth control pill safe?

There’s a good chance the pill will be totally safe for you — most people can take it with no problems. The pill has been around for more than 50 years, and millions of people have used it safely.

Can I take the birth control pill?

Like with all medications, the pill isn’t for everyone.

Smoking and birth control pills don’t always mix. If you’re over 35 and a smoker, you shouldn’t use the combination pill (COCs) or any other kind of birth control that contains the hormone estrogen. If you’re over 35 and you vape, talk with your nurse or doctor about whether the combination pill is safe for you. You can take progestin-only pills (POPs or mini pills) if you’re a smoker.

Also avoid using combination pills if you’ve had:

Blood clots, an inherited blood-clotting disorder, or vein inflammation

Breast cancer

Heart attack, stroke, angina, or other serious heart problems

Migraine headaches with aura (seeing flashing, zigzag lines)

Uncontrolled high blood pressure

Very bad diabetes or liver disease

Avoid using progestin-only pills if you’ve had:

Certain forms of Lupus

Breast cancer

Avoid using Slynd (a type of progestin-only pill) if you’ve had:

Kidney disease

Adrenal insufficiency

Liver disease

Cervical, breast, ovarian, uterine, or endometrial cancer

Talk with your doctor or nurse about your health history. They’ll help you decide if the pill is right for you.

What are the risks of birth control pills?

Even though birth control pills are very safe, using the combination pill can slightly increase your risk of health problems. Complications are rare, but they can be serious. These include heart attack, stroke, blood clots, and liver tumors.

In very rare cases, they can lead to death.

For the most part, progestin-only pills (aka POPs or mini pills) don’t have these risks.

When talking with your doctor about birth control, tell them about any medications you’re taking and any health problems you’ve had.

There’s a very slight chance that you can get pregnant even if you always take the pill correctly every day. But if you do get pregnant and accidentally take the pill during the early part of your pregnancy, it won’t increase the risk of birth defects.

It’s important to remember that the chance of having any of these problems while taking birth control pills is really, really low for most people. In fact, pregnancy is more likely to cause serious health problems than the pill. Your doctor or nurse can help you figure out which types of birth control will be safest for you.

What warning signs should I know about?

Most people on the pill won’t have any problems at all. But just in case, it’s good to know what the signs of a serious issue are.

See a doctor or nurse right away if you have:

sudden back/jaw pain along with nausea, sweating, or trouble breathing

chest pain or discomfort

achy soreness in your leg

trouble breathing

severe pain in your belly or stomach

sudden, very bad headache

headaches that are different, worse, or happen more often than usual

aura — (seeing flashing, zigzag lines)

yellowing of your skin or eyes

You can always call a nurse or doctor, like the ones at your local Planned Parenthood health center, if you have questions or you’re worried about any health issues.

Is it safe to take the pill while breastfeeding?

Combination pills (COCs) may reduce the amount and quality of your breast milk in the first 3 weeks of breastfeeding. If you’re nursing, wait at least 3 weeks after giving birth to start using combination pills. Your breast milk will contain traces of the pill's hormones, but it’s not likely that these hormones will have any effect on your baby. Talk with your nurse or doctor if you have any concerns about breastfeeding while using the pill.

Progestin-only pills (AKA POPs or mini pills) are fine to use while you're breastfeeding. In fact, using the mini pill and breastfeeding shouldn’t have any effect on how much milk you produce, and won't affect your baby.



Also, trans men can't take oestrogen even though they may be at risk of pregnancy.


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25 Jun 2022, 9:11 pm

America in the 1950s was as bad as Germany in the 1930s and 1940s.


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25 Jun 2022, 9:38 pm

This is sad, but not surprising.

I found a lot of the pro life guys on twitter seem more excited about punishing 'modern feminists' then caring at all about these babies they think they're saving.

Never thought Ireland would become the more progressive country.

Expect things to get worse.



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25 Jun 2022, 9:43 pm

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America in the 1950s was as bad as Germany in the 1930s and 1940s.


The majority don't take historical context into account when laws like this are overturned nor what it will mean for the future. It's very much "what's in it for me" right now.



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25 Jun 2022, 9:49 pm

Sigi wrote:
This is sad, but not surprising.

I found a lot of the pro life guys on twitter seem more excited about punishing 'modern feminists' then caring at all about these babies they think they're saving.

Never thought Ireland would become the more progressive country.

Expect things to get worse.


Is it because a lot of guys want to become fathers and feel "accidentally" is there only way?



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25 Jun 2022, 9:51 pm

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Very glad that I am now past reproductive age.I had the right to choose my whole reproductive life.
So when will they decide the death penalty is wrong?If life is so sacred, why does the prison system get to murder?

They won't due to conservative hypocrisy. Also because it was never about life.


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25 Jun 2022, 10:18 pm

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If Hillary Clinton had won in 2016, conservatives would be angry at her for not being like this ^^^


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25 Jun 2022, 10:26 pm

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If Hillary Clinton had won in 2016, conservatives would be angry at her for not being like this ^^^


Looks like wandavision :lol:



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25 Jun 2022, 10:44 pm

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If Hillary Clinton had won in 2016, conservatives would be angry at her for not being like this ^^^


Looks like wandavision :lol:


I can't imagine what kind of crap Kamala Harris is getting from them.


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25 Jun 2022, 10:45 pm

ironpony wrote:
That makes sense.

So now that the law has been changed, what are the rules when it comes to abortion now then, or what are the limitations?


In some states, they're considering the same penalties as for murder.


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25 Jun 2022, 10:55 pm

Just came across this article:

https://www.guttmacher.org/article/2022 ... overturned

In a majority of the states listed there’s no exceptions for rape or incest. That is massively f***ed up.


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25 Jun 2022, 11:01 pm

ironpony wrote:
That makes sense.

So now that the law has been changed, what are the rules when it comes to abortion now then, or what are the limitations?


Now it depends on the state you live in. Some states are choosing to protect abortion rights, others are not. I live in Colorado which is one of the states upholding abortion rights we actually have abortion rights written into our state law so it is fully protected here. So we will certainly be a big state for giving abortions to people out of state who have to come here for the procedure.


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25 Jun 2022, 11:36 pm

CubsBullsBears wrote:
Just came across this article:

https://www.guttmacher.org/article/2022 ... overturned

In a majority of the states listed there’s no exceptions for rape or incest. That is massively f***ed up.


If they only made it legal in these circumstances, it still wouldn’t be good enough and would be pretty darn toxic because:

1. Rape often goes unreported (for a variety of reasons)

2. There are a host of other dire circumstances

3. Women should be able to choose what they do with their own bodies. Period.


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