Why is there so much hating on the right on this website?

Page 14 of 16 [ 252 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16  Next

Sweetleaf
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 6 Jan 2011
Age: 32
Gender: Female
Posts: 33,542
Location: Somewhere in Colorado

08 Jul 2022, 11:20 pm

Hollywood_Guy wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Pepe wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Pepe wrote:
There would be a lot less hatred from the right if there was a lot less hatred from the left. 8)


There's also a broad tendency to dismiss criticisms that aren't desired as hate, sometimes even when they amount to little more than a Spongebob-esque excuse me sir, you're sitting on my body which is also my face level of assertiveness.

Hey, my humanity also deserves to be recognized might sound like hate to defenders of traditions that refuse to recognize some people's humanity though.


Quote:
Please note:
The original context was the hatefulness on this particular website.

viewtopic.php?f=20&t=406978&p=9077042#p9076925


This will be my last post in the thread. :mrgreen:


I'm aware of the context, I'm disputing the framing that disagreeing with or pushing back against certain attitudes is the same as hate.


It could potentially devolve into hate though. And hate can also very well become violence if it is not checked.

Why can't we all agree that most issues and preferences should be decided on a local or regional level?


A lot of issues and preferences can be decided on a local or regional level. But when it comes to bodily autonomy that should be guaranteed regardless of what state you live in. Like we would not leave slavery up to the states these days, so why leave any other bodily autonomy issues up to the state. All women should have access to abortion period, no matter what U.S state they live in for instance.


_________________
We won't go back.


lostonearth35
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 5 Jan 2010
Age: 48
Gender: Female
Posts: 10,784
Location: Lost on Earth, waddya think?

09 Jul 2022, 1:13 am

The other evening I was browsing through Wikitubia and read about a terminated Alt-right Youtuber who called himself The Red Elephant. Such a charming gentleman. Not.

Also you've got to love the irony that an elephant of all animals represents republicans, since most of them are in denial about the climate change and poaching that is endangering the animals' lives.



cyberdad
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 21 Feb 2011
Age: 54
Gender: Male
Posts: 29,260

09 Jul 2022, 1:19 am

lostonearth35 wrote:
Also you've got to love the irony that an elephant of all animals represents republicans, since most of them are in denial about the climate change and poaching that is endangering the animals' lives.


Yes elephants are kind, intelligent and gentle creatures for their size. Quite the oxymoron



Raptor
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 8 Mar 2007
Gender: Male
Posts: 12,996
Location: Southeast U.S.A.

09 Jul 2022, 1:26 am

cyberdad wrote:
Raptor wrote:
You should watch the complete video and decide for yourself without allowing yourself be taken in by the leftist narrative.


Why not watch all the videos of the Covington school boys
1. Marching in a politically motivated rally
2. being allowed by their teachers to wear MAGA hats
3. being encouraged by their teachers to march in a rally to remove women's rights to an abortion
4. teachers looking the other way as the boys verbally/sexually abuse teenage girls who reported their behaviour/conduct
5. encouraged by teachers to cross the road to confront black extremists (what were the teachers doing??)
6. surrounding a native american elder and racially taunting him (again what were the teachers doing??)' it's important to note that boys at this all-white school also have a history of racially taunting black basketball teams who play their school. Their school has never attempted to rectify their conduct in the sports arena,.

It was in this environment that Sandmann was enabled/embolded/entitled to stare down an old man and smirk as the old man was being racially abused.

There were three groups at fault during this whole debacle
1. Sandman who chose to sneer at an old man and smirk as he was being racially taunted
2. the other school boys who were on the record for mysogistic and racist behavior
3. the school and teachers for enabling a culture in this school that permits this type of behavior and a culture that promotes support for Trump and right wing ideologies

If anyone wants to witness how trump's right wing experiment is influencing America then look no further than the entitled little s**t Nick Sandmann, his school and the school adminstrators at Covington.


Yeah, whatever.... :roll:

So tell me; what will you think if Trump gets elected in '24? He has a tremendous amount of support across the USA. More now than than in '16 and Biden is helping him.
What about DeSantis?
Oh, and Trump won't be going to prison.


_________________
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."
- Thomas Jefferson


Last edited by Raptor on 09 Jul 2022, 1:31 am, edited 1 time in total.

Sweetleaf
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 6 Jan 2011
Age: 32
Gender: Female
Posts: 33,542
Location: Somewhere in Colorado

09 Jul 2022, 1:26 am

cyberdad wrote:
lostonearth35 wrote:
Also you've got to love the irony that an elephant of all animals represents republicans, since most of them are in denial about the climate change and poaching that is endangering the animals' lives.


Yes elephants are kind, intelligent and gentle creatures for their size. Quite the oxymoron

Representing republicans as elephants is an offense to elephants, most elephants probably have more empathy than the typical republican.


_________________
We won't go back.


cyberdad
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 21 Feb 2011
Age: 54
Gender: Male
Posts: 29,260

09 Jul 2022, 1:36 am

Raptor wrote:
So tell me; what will you think if Trump gets elected in '24? He has a tremendous amount of support across the USA. More now than than in '16 and Biden is helping him.
What about DeSantis?
Oh, and Trump won't be going to prison.


During your involuntary holiday you might have missed that I agree with all your points
Trump wont go to prison ✔
Biden is digging his own grave (actually he's got one foot in) ✔
De Santis is a possibility✔
Trump is likely to get elected again ✔



Raptor
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 8 Mar 2007
Gender: Male
Posts: 12,996
Location: Southeast U.S.A.

09 Jul 2022, 1:47 am

cyberdad wrote:
Raptor wrote:
So tell me; what will you think if Trump gets elected in '24? He has a tremendous amount of support across the USA. More now than than in '16 and Biden is helping him.
What about DeSantis?
Oh, and Trump won't be going to prison.


During your involuntary holiday you might have missed that I agree with all your points
Trump wont go to prison ✔
Biden is digging his own grave (actually he's got one foot in) ✔
De Santis is a possibility✔
Trump is likely to get elected again ✔


Involuntary? Please do enlighten all of us.


_________________
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."
- Thomas Jefferson


cyberdad
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 21 Feb 2011
Age: 54
Gender: Male
Posts: 29,260

09 Jul 2022, 1:50 am

Raptor wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Raptor wrote:
So tell me; what will you think if Trump gets elected in '24? He has a tremendous amount of support across the USA. More now than than in '16 and Biden is helping him.
What about DeSantis?
Oh, and Trump won't be going to prison.


During your involuntary holiday you might have missed that I agree with all your points
Trump wont go to prison ✔
Biden is digging his own grave (actually he's got one foot in) ✔
De Santis is a possibility✔
Trump is likely to get elected again ✔


Involuntary? Please do enlighten all of us.


Whatever you like then



ASPartOfMe
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 25 Aug 2013
Age: 65
Gender: Male
Posts: 29,079
Location: Long Island, New York

09 Jul 2022, 4:22 am

cyberdad wrote:
Raptor wrote:
You should watch the complete video and decide for yourself without allowing yourself be taken in by the leftist narrative.


Why not watch all the videos of the Covington school boys
1. Marching in a politically motivated rally
2. being allowed by their teachers to wear MAGA hats
3. being encouraged by their teachers to march in a rally to remove women's rights to an abortion

It was in this environment that Sandmann was enabled/embolded/entitled to stare down an old man and smirk as the old man was being racially abused.

There were three groups at fault during this whole debacle
1. Sandman who chose to sneer at an old man and smirk as he was being racially taunted
2. the other school boys who were on the record for mysogistic and racist behavior
3. the school and teachers for enabling a culture in this school that permits this type of behavior and a culture that promotes support for Trump and right wing ideologies

If anyone wants to witness how trump's right wing experiment is influencing America then look no further than the entitled little s**t Nick Sandmann, his school and the school adminstrators at Covington.




1. Marching in a politically motivated rally
2. being allowed by their teachers to wear MAGA hats
3. being encouraged by their teachers to march in a rally to remove women's rights to an abortion

Correct

4. teachers looking the other way as the boys verbally/sexually abuse teenage girls who reported their behaviour/conduct
Teachers did look the other way but there were a couple of reported incidents, not mass sexual harassment. For a bunch of high school boys left to themselves, there was surprisingly little of it. My high school classmates would have called the Covington kids all sorts of pejoratives starting with wimps and getting worse from there.

5. encouraged by teachers to cross the road to confront black extremists (what were the teachers doing??)
The teachers were doing nothing. You have got to be kidding otherwise. It was the black hebrews who were confronting everybody. The students were waiting in a prime tourist area for a bus.

6. surrounding a native american elder and racially taunting him (again what were the teachers doing??)' it's important to note that boys at this all-white school also have a history of racially taunting black basketball teams who play their school. Their school has never attempted to rectify their conduct in the sports arena
It was the elder who walked up to them. Even then they never surrounded him. Maybe you define surrounding in Australia differently but I doubt it.

It was in this environment that Sandmann was enabled/embolded/entitled to stare down an old man and smirk as the old man was being racially abused.
Smirk?, more like shit-eating grin. The latter is done at the beginning of bullying or as a defensive reaction when a person does not know how to respond. I have no idea which it was, unless you have NT mind reading superpowers you don't either.


There were three groups at fault during this whole debacle
1. Sandman who chose to sneer at an old man and smirk as he was being racially taunted
2. the other school boys who were on the record for mysogistic and racist behavior
3. the school and teachers for enabling a culture in this school that permits this type of behavior and a culture that promotes support for Trump and right wing ideologies

The main fault lies with adults, before, during, and after the incident. By after the incident, I am referring to his being used by lawyers with a political agenda.

If anyone wants to witness how trump's right wing experiment is influencing America then look no further than the entitled little s**t Nick Sandmann, his school and the school adminstrators at Covington
This incident is symbolic of the sickness of America in this era. This was a minor dust up that turned into a political Rorschach test. Trumpism played a large but far from the only part.


_________________
Professionally Identified and joined WP August 26, 2013
DSM 5: Autism Spectrum Disorder, DSM IV: Aspergers Moderate Severity

“My autism is not a superpower. It also isn’t some kind of god-forsaken, endless fountain of suffering inflicted on my family. It’s just part of who I am as a person”. - Sara Luterman


cyberdad
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 21 Feb 2011
Age: 54
Gender: Male
Posts: 29,260

09 Jul 2022, 5:27 am

ASPartOfMe wrote:
Teachers did look the other way but there were a couple of reported incidents, not mass sexual harassment. For a bunch of high school boys left to themselves, there was surprisingly little of it.

I spent 12 years in a private catholic college for rich kids and all I see is is a facade created by the Covington school authorities of "good" catholic boys supposedly marching for saving babies lives. The reality was they behaved like a rowdy mob. When they were caught on camera the embarrassment to both the school and to the Sandmann family mean't they took the low road by suing the free media who (surprise surptise!) were just doing their job reporting the news.

ASPartOfMe wrote:
The teachers were doing nothing. You have got to be kidding otherwise. It was the black hebrews who were confronting everybody. The students were waiting in a prime tourist area for a bus.

It was documented the students heard the black hebrews and crossed the road to confront them, That's why I asked why the teachers weren't controlling them.

ASPartOfMe wrote:
It was the elder who walked up to them. Even then they never surrounded him. Maybe you define surrounding in Australia differently but I doubt it.

It was documented Phillips was trying to defuse what he thought was a potentially dangerous situation where fighting might break out.

ASPartOfMe wrote:
Smirk?, more like shit-eating grin. The latter is done at the beginning of bullying or as a defensive reaction when a person does not know how to respond. I have no idea which it was, unless you have NT mind reading superpowers you don't either.

It doesn't take mind reading powers to know what was going through Sandmann's little head. Just take a look at the little s**ts behind Sandmann.
Image

It's called "menacing privilege" - they are all sons of wealthy parents who displayed mysoginistic and racist behavior while on excursion. I should know the psychology (or pathology) of these "types" I went to school with them. Sandmann knew wearing his little racist starter kit red MAGA hat what the effect he would have staring down a little old native American man. The first word that comes into my mind when I see these kids is they are disgusting. I am a little surprised you would be defending these privileged turds AS?

ASPartOfMe wrote:
The main fault lies with adults, before, during, and after the incident. By after the incident, I am referring to his being used by lawyers with a political agenda.

Agreed. Their silence is somewhat deafening though.

ASPartOfMe wrote:
This incident is symbolic of the sickness of America in this era. This was a minor dust up that turned into a political Rorschach test. Trumpism played a large but far from the only part.


Again agreed...but there is no confusion over the racist starter kit red MAGA hats glaringly advertising what these children's values stand for.



Last edited by cyberdad on 09 Jul 2022, 5:48 am, edited 1 time in total.

culturedmeat
Emu Egg
Emu Egg

Joined: 30 Sep 2021
Age: 21
Gender: Male
Posts: 7

09 Jul 2022, 5:45 am

Twilightprincess wrote:
@flamingshorts:

I don’t think your comments are helping Hollywood Guy’s case.


It was sarcasm



culturedmeat
Emu Egg
Emu Egg

Joined: 30 Sep 2021
Age: 21
Gender: Male
Posts: 7

09 Jul 2022, 5:51 am

Hollywood_Guy wrote:
CockneyRebel wrote:
Is there such a thing as a Social Republican, because I think I might be an example. Speaking of the right of centre, that could be the type of party that they could form.


It could be in other parts of the world except for the USA. American Conservatism on the other hand is more tightly married to unfettered economic liberalism, even though that is also slowly morphing.


Yeah in the extreme that could be the tankies I suppose, fully socialist economics but trad culture



Fnord
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 6 May 2008
Age: 65
Gender: Male
Posts: 56,888
Location: Stendec

09 Jul 2022, 7:45 am

flamingshorts wrote:
Suspect the board is sold out. Probably when Alex went on The Good Doctor. Cabal infiltrated. Time to move on.
Illuminati omnes videt, omnes audit, omnia novit.



Raptor
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 8 Mar 2007
Gender: Male
Posts: 12,996
Location: Southeast U.S.A.

09 Jul 2022, 8:21 am

ASPartOfMe wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Raptor wrote:
It was in this environment that Sandmann was enabled/embolded/entitled to stare down an old man and smirk as the old man was being racially abused.
Smirk?, more like shit-eating grin. The latter is done at the beginning of bullying or as a defensive reaction when a person does not know how to respond. I have no idea which it was, unless you have NT mind reading superpowers you don't either.


Yep, a common and natural "WTF do I do now?" smile when you don't know how else to react. It's not every day that you get harangued by the Black Hebrew Israelites AND have a Native American come up to you that close beating a drum and chanting. How was Sandmann and the other students to know the purpose and intent of the chant and drum beat was? :shrug:

The problem had absolutely nothing to do with the actual encounter and everything to do with the MAGA hats and the pro-life march they were there for. Had it not been for those two factors this would have gone totally unnoticed.

It's been my personal observation that the leftist's see conservatives only as stodgy old rich white men, so when much younger conservatives (which seem to be growing in numbers) appear they flip out and go on the attack. I became a conservative at the age of 14 and the conduct I've seen from the left snice then has only bolstered my political stance.

This whole Sandmann thing is left wing desperation hard at work.


_________________
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."
- Thomas Jefferson


SkinnedWolf
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 18 Mar 2022
Age: 23
Gender: Non-binary
Posts: 1,525
Location: China

09 Jul 2022, 11:33 am

Raptor wrote:
It's been my personal observation that the leftist's see conservatives only as stodgy old rich white men, so when much younger conservatives (which seem to be growing in numbers) appear they flip out and go on the attack. I became a conservative at the age of 14 and the conduct I've seen from the left snice then has only bolstered my political stance.

As East Asians, our impression is that the most vicious racial slanders we will get are from white teenagers.


_________________
With the help of translation software.

Cover your eyes, if you like. It will serve no purpose.

You might expect to be able to crush them in your hand, into wolf-bone fragments.
Dance with me, funeralxempire. Into night's circle we fly, until the fire enjoys us.


cyberdad
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 21 Feb 2011
Age: 54
Gender: Male
Posts: 29,260

09 Jul 2022, 8:45 pm

@Raptor

I grew up around rich white stodgy old men and women and their children and through my school and the "young" spawn of these people are literally clones of these school boys you seem to be bending over backwards to defend. They are privileged twats (they will go to College and become spoilt frat boys) but if you like them feel free to associate with the brand they represent. In my experience people who identify as conservatives have aspirations to become like this (I think Marx referred to this class back in the 1800s as "petit bourgeoisie" or the middle class who aspire to be part of the wealthy aristocracy.) While it doesn't always apply (there of course poor people with conservative values) the overall thinking hasn't changed.

BTW since you have hitched your yourself to the Trump brand then you have also hitched yourself to the values he represents over disability like autism


https://www.forbes.com/sites/gusalexiou ... -one-week/

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/ ... 592737002/