Masking well until you have a meltdown
Removing yourself from the situation when you know one is incoming is one.
When I see things that upset me at the time, I'm quite calm, probably too calm in many a situation, but I know it's going to hit me when it's all over. So, I remove myself from others, isolate myself, and cry in quiet (I may hit myself if I think I've failed someone, which isn't too bad in the end).
I don't have many, and it takes quite stressful things for me to hit this point. I'm one of those rock-like things that looks like I don't really feel out in the world, but I do.
I've been thinking about this. It's often when something urgent happens, like I suddenly feel ill or too hot or too hungry or something. I need to learn how to express this better rather than just freezing or shouting.
But usually they are just caused by trying unsuccessfully to connect to people, being unable to make myself clear, people jeering and laughing at me. Often it's at an in laws party, or in the past it was when I took my little daughter to a children's event. I can't just run out of such events because there are other people to consider.
I just wish people were able to use their common sense. 'Oh, she looks upset, can we help her?' 'Maybe she's tired.'
My niece helped me recently, I was on the verge of collapse because I hadn't eaten for a long time and her parents were pushing back lunch further and further. She rushed to help me, I was so surprised to get help. Her parents and everyone else there just stared, or didn't notice.
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It's really unfair. People seem to care about NTs' feelings but not ours.
Advice is given to always reach out for help, but when I do so, people either say 'you think you've got it bad, well I've got it worse.' Or just stare blankly, not understanding.
It's confusing and weird.
EXACTLY!
People are in an ego competition these days.
"I'm worse than you." means "The world doesn't revolve around you, but around ME."
Or another often-heard saying speech: "Other people are much worse off than you."
Should I feel better now or even worse with guilt and so on? The ruthless devaluing and trivializing of the feelings of others seems to be a specialty of NT's.
I was looking for help until I had enough to hear from other people, who promised to help me in emergency cases:
"Is it really important? I'm quite busy this week. Can we talk another time?"
Reply - in my head, not in real: "No, it's not important, it's just me and my insignificant problems. I took enough time from myself to help you. Now it's my turn! But okay, I can wait a week with my sadness and anger or what ever happened to me."
At some point I can no longer swallow it - meltdown!
What we need are compassionate people, but where do we get that from?
It's really unfair. People seem to care about NTs' feelings but not ours.
Advice is given to always reach out for help, but when I do so, people either say 'you think you've got it bad, well I've got it worse.' Or just stare blankly, not understanding.
It's confusing and weird.
EXACTLY!
People are in an ego competition these days.
"I'm feeling worse than you." means "The world doesn't revolve around you, but around ME."
Or another often-heard saying speech: "Other people are much worse off than you."
Should I feel better now or even worse with guilt and so on? The ruthless devaluing and trivializing of the feelings of others seems to be a specialty of NT's.
I was looking for help until I had enough to hear from other people, who promised to help me in emergency cases:
"Is it really important? I'm quite busy this week. Can we talk another time?"
Reply - in my head, not in real: "No, it's not important, it's just me and my insignificant problems. I took enough time from myself to help you. Now it's my turn! But okay, I can wait a week with my sadness and anger or what ever happened to me."
At some point I can no longer swallow it - meltdown!
What we need are compassionate people, but where do we get that from?
Sorry for the double post! I found and corrected a mistake.
On the surface I appear quiet, well spoken, intelligent, calm, but of course having mild autism there are situations I can't cope with and so I have meltdowns. My meltdowns are generally shouting and angry rather than crying, I rarely cry in a meltdown.
I've found that as a woman, being angry is unacceptable to society. I'm 'allowed' to cry and get upset, but not get angry. Whereas men are 'allowed' to get angry but not allowed to cry.
Anyway, when I do have a meltdown, I've found it pushes people away. They thought I was a quiet, well spoken, intelligent, calm person, then suddenly I'm angry and shouting. What a weirdo! they think, and run for the hills.
Are there any solutions to this? I'm not sure what I'm getting at really. I just think it's unfair. If a normally calm person is angry/crying, it is a sign that they need HELP. Not a sign for people to get offended and take it as a personal insult.
id like to say yes its possible to stop them, but its no
my dad had meltdowns
I have the same
I am not angry but distressed but I will rant and smash things like my dad
the only way around is to avoid my triggers. I can put reigns on them but not stop them completely.
they are best left to run their course when they happen
like you I am quiet and sweet normally with a slightly chatty streak when I'm in the mood, my meltdowns are noisy but harmless x
People are in an ego competition these days.
"I'm feeling worse than you." means "The world doesn't revolve around you, but around ME."
Or another often-heard saying speech: "Other people are much worse off than you."
Should I feel better now or even worse with guilt and so on? The ruthless devaluing and trivializing of the feelings of others seems to be a specialty of NT's.
Sorry for the double post! I found and corrected a mistake.
Yes. More people are Me Me Me now days. It's all about them. There is no room for other people in their lives.
Oh god that drives me insane. 'Stop moaning, other people have it worse than you.'
So should I never be happy then because other people are happier? Should I never be scared because other people are more scared? Ridiculous!
I'm going to start saying 'sorry I'm not listening to you because other people are more critical than you'
Don't worry about the double post
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Last edited by KitLily on 15 Jul 2022, 9:53 am, edited 1 time in total.
my dad had meltdowns
I have the same
I am not angry but distressed but I will rant and smash things like my dad
the only way around is to avoid my triggers. I can put reigns on them but not stop them completely.
they are best left to run their course when they happen
like you I am quiet and sweet normally with a slightly chatty streak when I'm in the mood, my meltdowns are noisy but harmless x
People need to accept that other people have moods. There is no other solution, is there?
My dad died 40 years ago but I think he had meltdowns, according to my mum. He may have been autistic but I will never know now.
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Last edited by KitLily on 15 Jul 2022, 9:58 am, edited 1 time in total.
I was surprised to see that from a female poster. Is "man up" in this situation a shorthand way of saying to toughen up or something?
I don't mean to turn your light comment into a heavy topic, but this does bring up a good point about gender expectations. My approach has always been to come from where I am, not from a gender archetype. Sometimes my expression will resemble an archetype, and sometimes it won't. It's one less thing to weigh me down.
On the surface I appear quiet, well spoken, intelligent, calm, but of course having mild autism there are situations I can't cope with and so I have meltdowns. My meltdowns are generally shouting and angry rather than crying, I rarely cry in a meltdown.
I've found that as a woman, being angry is unacceptable to society. I'm 'allowed' to cry and get upset, but not get angry. Whereas men are 'allowed' to get angry but not allowed to cry.
Anyway, when I do have a meltdown, I've found it pushes people away. They thought I was a quiet, well spoken, intelligent, calm person, then suddenly I'm angry and shouting. What a weirdo! they think, and run for the hills.
Are there any solutions to this? I'm not sure what I'm getting at really. I just think it's unfair. If a normally calm person is angry/crying, it is a sign that they need HELP. Not a sign for people to get offended and take it as a personal insult.
I carry homemade Autism cards in my wallet. You might want to have one in your pocket. You can write on it that you are Autistic and overwhelmed and that is why you are screaming and that you need help. You can also write what things can be helpful to you. That way you can just hand it to someone who sees you meltdown and they will be able to help you.
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"I'm bad and that's good. I'll never be good and that's not bad. There's no one I'd rather be than me."
Wreck It Ralph
There was a co-worker there who would squeeze me
And the meltdown would subside
So I don't know about not being able to stop a meltdown
Because my experience has been to the contrary.
That was an extroadinary circumstance though.
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"I'm bad and that's good. I'll never be good and that's not bad. There's no one I'd rather be than me."
Wreck It Ralph
That's a good idea. I wonder if it would work for me. I suspect it might make them run away screaming but I could try.
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