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Pro-Choice or Pro-Life
Pro-Choice 70%  70%  [ 30 ]
Pro-Life 16%  16%  [ 7 ]
Both (abortion should only be allowed in specific situations) 12%  12%  [ 5 ]
I don’t know 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
I don’t care 2%  2%  [ 1 ]
Total votes : 43

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22 Jul 2022, 10:40 am

I was expecting more people to go for both. I didn’t choose both because I feel like that’s already a given. Very, very few people are advocating for full-term abortions (and probably even fewer women would want them).

I’d put the cutoff somewhere around viability while including exceptions for things like health issues or complications.


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22 Jul 2022, 11:29 am

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22 Jul 2022, 12:15 pm

I'm surprised myself that there weren't more votes for "both." I've known a few people, mostly women, who felt that way.

It all boils down to personal beliefs vs understanding that nobody has the right to impose their beliefs on anyone else. I wish that was a growing trend.


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22 Jul 2022, 12:17 pm

VegetableMan wrote:
I'm surprised myself that there weren't more votes for "both." I've known a few people, mostly women, who felt that way.

It all boils down to personal beliefs vs understanding that nobody has the right to impose their beliefs on anyone else. I wish that was a growing trend.



What do you mean by both?

I wouldn't have one myself, but that's still my CHOICE.

It's not imposed on me.



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22 Jul 2022, 12:25 pm

IsabellaLinton wrote:
VegetableMan wrote:
I'm surprised myself that there weren't more votes for "both." I've known a few people, mostly women, who felt that way.

It all boils down to personal beliefs vs understanding that nobody has the right to impose their beliefs on anyone else. I wish that was a growing trend.



What do you mean by both?

I wouldn't have one myself, but that's still my CHOICE.

It's not imposed on me.


You expressed it exactly.

Honestly, I don't what the confusion was here.


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22 Jul 2022, 12:46 pm

It’s nice to see the overwhelming agreement on this topic. :lol:

PPR is less divided here than I thought.


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22 Jul 2022, 12:47 pm

VegetableMan wrote:
I'm surprised myself that there weren't more votes for "both." I've known a few people, mostly women, who felt that way.

It all boils down to personal beliefs vs understanding that nobody has the right to impose their beliefs on anyone else. I wish that was a growing trend.


Right, but I still call that pro-choice.
A choice is a choice whether yes or no.



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22 Jul 2022, 1:06 pm

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I can't picture allowing full-term abortions, but I have no idea where to draw the line.

I support my community's legal non-interference in full-term abortions. This is our current situation.
Some conservative people may put forward moral condemnation of this, but there are also more condemnations pointing to the man who made the pregnant woman have no choice but to do so.

The universal line in East Asia is "birth".


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22 Jul 2022, 1:32 pm

IsabellaLinton wrote:

I wouldn't have one myself, but that's still my CHOICE.

It's not imposed on me.



I should clarify:

My personal choice has nothing to do with religion, God, or sin.

I'm not low-key virtue signalling or suggesting everyone with choice should choose "no".
I fully support anyone who makes the difficult decision to terminate.

I chose no because it was right for me, and I knew I could manage.
That doesn't mean it's right for everyone else.
It doesn't mean I would risk my life for the baby, either.



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22 Jul 2022, 1:46 pm

IsabellaLinton wrote:
VegetableMan wrote:
I'm surprised myself that there weren't more votes for "both." I've known a few people, mostly women, who felt that way.

It all boils down to personal beliefs vs understanding that nobody has the right to impose their beliefs on anyone else. I wish that was a growing trend.


Right, but I still call that pro-choice.
A choice is a choice whether yes or no.


I guess because in American politics pro-life is primarily represented as being against abortion is why I feel it's important to make a distinction.

But you're absolutely correct.


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23 Jul 2022, 8:28 am

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23 Jul 2022, 11:09 am

Twilightprincess wrote:
It’s nice to see the overwhelming agreement on this topic. :lol:

PPR is less divided here than I thought.


Personally, I'm interested in knowing who voted for "I don't care."



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23 Jul 2022, 11:12 am

Fireblossom wrote:
Twilightprincess wrote:
It’s nice to see the overwhelming agreement on this topic. :lol:

PPR is less divided here than I thought.


Personally, I'm interested in knowing who voted for "I don't care."


Me too.


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24 Jul 2022, 12:26 pm

I don't think many people would select "both" because "pro-life" is mostly a rhetorical trick by the anti-abortion crowd. Pro-choice isn't "anti-life" or "mandatory abortions". It's "abortions for some, tiny American flags for others".