Pat Benatar won't preform 'Hit Me With Your Best Shot'

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29 Jul 2022, 6:52 am

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Again, there was no ongoing campaign for her to stop preforming the song. In light of recent events the lyrics have a different meaning to her. That simple, nothing else to see.


She has clearly been oblivious (as I mentioned I used to be a fan and never picked up this connection) it's been 42 years to she was happy to perform the song? It's quite obvious in the current environment she didn't have to read the tea leaves and somebody on social media must have triggered her (or her management) awareness.


Your "she has been happy to sing the song for 42 years" isnt exactly true. Articles cited above in this thread quote her as saying she has 'outgrown' certain lyrics in the song. So she was probably already loosing love for the song for years.

Also the lyrics are kinda messed up for another reason. They dont make sense sung in a woman's voice. She addresses her lover as 'youre a real tough cookie'. The phrase 'tough cookie' is only applied to women, never guys.



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29 Jul 2022, 7:08 am

Anyway it's her choice.



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29 Jul 2022, 8:09 am

Sounds like maybe she went “woke”.
Not real common for an old person but it is what it is.... :roll:


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29 Jul 2022, 9:29 am

Raptor wrote:
Sounds like maybe she went “woke”.
Not real common for an old person but it is what it is.... :roll:

Going “woke” is not exactly it. She is not in favor of banning the song she told fans to stop whining about her not preforming the song and feel free to listen to it. This is unlike Elvis Costello who urged radio stations not to play “Oliver’s Army” and Lizzo who eliminated the word “spazz” from a song in reaction to protests.

Songs having new meanings in reaction to current events predates wokeism. 9/11 is a prime example.
We look at the songs deemed too “lyrically questionable” to play on the radio after the 9/11 attacks.
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Right after the attacks, though, many media companies began censoring art deemed insensitive or anti-American, for fear of offending or upsetting the traumatized nation. One such entity was media corporation Clear Channel Communications (now iHeartMedia), who, three days after the attack, sent a memo to its 1,100+ radio stations with a list of songs that they deemed “lyrically questionable” and insensitive to play following the 9/11 attacks.
The reasons for Clear Channel putting some of these songs on their memorandum are pretty obvious — the entire Rage Against The Machine catalog, for example, was most likely banned because their music was overly critical of America. However, some of the motives behind certain songs’ inclusion now seem ridiculous. The Bangles’ Walk Like An Egyptian, for example, was added for having references to the Middle East. It should be noted, too, that some DJs chose to play these songs, but that they were adamantly urged not to do so.

‘Hit Me Your Best Shot’ is on the list as well as Benatar’s ‘Love is a Battlefield’.

Other songs that had nothing to do with 9/11 became moving or anthemic. One famous example is Billy Joel’s Miami 2017(Seen the Lights Go Out On Broadway). For me personally the first song I thought of when it happened and still strongly evokes 9/11 is Siouxsie and the Banshees‘s ‘Cities in Dust’ written about the volcanic eruption that destroyed Pompeii.


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29 Jul 2022, 9:38 am

How old is Pat Benatar now? Never mind, I don't want to know.



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29 Jul 2022, 8:11 pm

ASPartOfMe wrote:
For me personally the first song I thought of when it happened and still strongly evokes 9/11 is Siouxsie and the Banshees‘s ‘Cities in Dust’ written about the volcanic eruption that destroyed Pompeii.


It's weird how close to the imagery of 9-11 the movie "Independence day" was ! !

The way the buildings in NY exploded and collapsed were identical almost predicting exactly what would happen in 9-11. I wonder how many survivors get PTSD if they watch that movie?



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29 Jul 2022, 11:25 pm

Raptor wrote:
Sounds like maybe she went “woke”.
Not real common for an old person but it is what it is.... :roll:


I was thinking the same thing.


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30 Jul 2022, 2:01 am

CockneyRebel wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Sounds like maybe she went “woke”.
Not real common for an old person but it is what it is.... :roll:


I was thinking the same thing.



God forbid that she should become sensitive.

But I think you all are accusing her of having more morality than she really has.

The song's lyrics never made any sense when sung in a woman's voice anyway, and she had already 'outgrown' the song even before the recent deluge of shootings. And that deluge of shootings just made belting out the chorus line with conviction hard. So she just couldnt do it anymore. You dont need to invoke 'pressure from social media' nor 'going woke'.

But hey...since you all think that its so tragic and awful...maybe we can FORCE her at gunpoint to sing it again!

Al Capone kidnapped Fats Waller (had guys tie him up and throw Waller into the trunk of a car)and force him to play at Capone's birthday party at a hotel in Chicago. So maybe Biden can do the same with Pat Benatar!



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30 Jul 2022, 4:17 am

so....I think I'm the only one on this forum who actually purchased her album "Live on Earth" and if I can cope with her not playing this song live again I am sure those who are "faux outraged" and calling her "woke" probably don't care less either.



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30 Jul 2022, 5:40 am

When one of her songs comes on the radio, I'm going to switch to another station. Like I've always done.



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30 Jul 2022, 6:03 am

naturalplastic wrote:
But hey...since you all think that its so tragic and awful...maybe we can FORCE her at gunpoint to sing it again!

Al Capone kidnapped Fats Waller (had guys tie him up and throw Waller into the trunk of a car)and force him to play at Capone's birthday party at a hotel in Chicago. So maybe Biden can do the same with Pat Benatar!

Hey, you've given me an idea! :idea:
You should never give The Rap ideas, no telling what they'll lead to. :twisted:


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30 Jul 2022, 9:31 am



Well, For Anyone Who Really
Wants to Know How the Original
Song, "Hit Me With Your Best Shot"

Came to Be and What IT Actually Means
By the Original Writer of the Song, Indeed,
The Internet Site, "Song Facts," Is A Great Resource

For Curiosity About Any Song That is Still 'Relevant' of Course...

"Hit Me With Your Best Shot," Was actually Written By a Dude; Therefore,
A Bit of Confusion As Pat Benatar Only Changed One Word As that Applies

to A Notch in 'My Lipstick Case' As A Change From the Original Lyrics Written
by A Dude's View Where the Lyrics Were 'Your Lipstick Case;" Yes, In This Context
The Phrase "You're a Real Tough Cookie" Makes More Sense, Unless It is A Woman

Using Shade
to 'Emasculate'
A Dude As There
Is Surely More Than One
Way to Please A Dude or A Dudette

As Some Women Are Just as Much Predators
Out for Sex Using the Other Person as
A "Masturbatory Tool" as Dudes are too;

Of Course, Not Everyone is in 'Circulation'
Enough to Witness This 'Fair and Balancing Truth;'

And Of Course, It is More Often for Material Goods as
That Doesn't have to have anything to Do With Sex at All

Just Preying Upon A Human Being's Natural Propensity to Want
to Have Warm Connections With others Until the Other Person on
The Internet Line Is Just Wanting You to Buy Them a New Cell Phone, Hehe,

Or in the Case of Cell Phone
Calls Direct, One of Those
Used Car Warranty Plans
As Yours Is Surely Always
Expiring Now Hehe for Replacement as such...

Anyway Back, to the Topic At Hand, And how Folks
Interpret Human Language that is at Core All Metaphor
That May Be Taken Either Literally or Figuratively too;

It's Easy to See, "Hit me with Your Best Shot" As Either
Being About Manipulating Someone Else Equally Or Yes

If You Look to 'Song Facts,' It's Easy to See It Was All About
A Dude's Attempt to Be More Self-Confident in a World that May
Be All About Shade Attempts From Others or Manipulation Indeed

For Material
Goods or even
One Night Stands
From A Female Predator too...

Making 'Promises in the Dark' About Love of Course...
That are Surely Far From True for The Current Agenda of 'Rewards'...

Pat Benatar is Being Very Generous in Her Sensitivity to the Potential
'Triggers' in Terms of Post Traumatic Stress Disorder and the Such
This Song Might Elicit With 'Trigger' Words Impacting Horrible Memories

of Humans Associated
With Mass/GUN Shootings;

Family and Friends of
The Victims of such;
And of Course those Who
Escaped Death in Direct Gunfire of Course...

Hey, It's Her Dog and Pony Show; It's Her Call
For Whatever the Hell or Heaven She Wants to Sing
And Dance about in Freedom of Expression on Stage...

Again, Like it or not, It's Her call to Do As She Pleases
As Obviously She isn't Starving in Nigeria Having to Scam

Folks Just
to Get
Maybe
A Dollar
For Some Food And Drink;
When You Are Down Enough
You Do Whatever it Takes to Survive;

That Too is the LiGHT and DArK of Human
Nature and Nature in General of Course; it Ain't

All Puppy Dog Tales a Wagging, it is Jaws and Teeth
Too and Predators Like Sharks Who Have Survived This
Way By The Size of Their Jaws And Numbers of Teeth That

Reproduce
in One Life
to Eat For
450 MiLLioN Years
or So Longer than Trees
in the Ocean Blue; True,

Life is Not A Place Where
'Snowflakes' Will Continue to
Exist When the Heat is Turned
up in the Natural Kitchen AS Such...

i Can't Imagine at this point in my Life
Seeing That Song as One About actual
Guns and Bullets; On the Other Hand, i Haven't

Been a Child Bleeding Under A Desk; While 376
Cowardly Cops AS Whole Were Not Man Enough

To Face one
little wimp
with An AR-15
Shooting Up Little
Kids in His Acclaim to Fame...

The World Will Be A Very Ugly
Place or Extremely Beautiful Experience...

Ya Gotta Be Able to Deal With the THorns
And Appreciate the Flowers to Truly Color
Life As A Beautiful Rose; i've Received Some of the

MOST PATHETIC ATTEMPTS AT SHADING ON THE INTERNET;

YET I AM SECURE IN
WHO I AM; SURE, HIT
ME WITH YOUR BEST SHOT
BABY AND I'LL RETURN WITH
TWO THOUSAND PLUS PHOTOS OF THE
MOST BEAUTIFUL YOUNG WOMEN YOU'VE
EVER SET YOUR EYES ON, Smiling Ecstatically
With me STILL
AT AGE 62...

Particularly
my Wife at
52 who makes
'Angelina Jolie'
And 'J Lo' Look
Like Faded Flowers,
With No Make-up

on at all...

WHY? I AM
HUMAN AND
i TREAT OTHER
HUMANS AS THE FACE
OF GOD AND THOSE (ThiS Way) WHO
ARE TRULY FULLY HUMAN RETURN THE SAME TO ME...

Jesus Christ, On Top of that it's Impossible to Shade
Someone Who has An Entire Blog Site Dedicated to
Poses in Underwear (and less) Hehe; True i ain't Like 'Jordan Peterson'

Who Fat Shames
Someone as

Not Beautiful;

And Takes All His Toys
Away and Quits Twitter
As he Can't Stand the Return of His

Ignorant Shade; It's true, Life Without Fear
is A Garden Much More Likely to Sprout Paradise Within for Real...

Hmm, All Things Considered, the Benefits of "Hit me With Your Best
Shot," Psychologically AS Whole Outweigh Any Potential Harm to Others,

in my Opinion,

Yet Again,

It is Pat
Benatar's
Dog and Pony
Show; She Ain't Gonna
Starve as An Artist to Do it HER WAY;

AND HONESTLY THAT'S KEY; FINANCIALLY
INDEPENDENT AND SOUL SECURE; Impossible
That way

except
For Sticks
And Stones

To Bring Ya
down a notch
from Heaven now for real...

So in Conclusion World, Go
Ahead, "Hit me With Your Best
Shot', 'Elmer Fudd;' 'Bugs Bunny' Will Just Take
You Down Rabbit Holes You Don't Expect, hehe...

Oh Lord
So many
Stories
DEEPER
Still to Tale...

It's Too Bad
That The Bible
Is too Old For the
Original Authors to
Be Interviewed; If they
Could, 'Jesus' Might Be A Real Human too...

Nah, People would still Not Believe the Truth;
As Biblical Scholars Have Already Shown that

The Original Greek Text Was About 'Son' In Terms
of the 'Nature of' All that is As That Relates to the Term 'God'

And Originally it was
'A' Son of God'; Not
'The' Son of God;'

Amazing How Much
Difference Just the
Term 'A' Versus 'The'

Will Make In Terms of All
the Folks Slaughtered Through
History in the Name of one Faux God Man

Inappropriately
Used in Other Terms
to Subjugate, Control,
And Master Others for Material Gains
And Of Course Reproductive Controls

too With Shame...

i Don't Play that
GamE, i am Man
Enough AND HUMAN
ENOUGH NOW Not to Be
Afraid of Truth in Light,
UNDER SHade or ABOVE Living Trees of Love..

"As the 'Music Score' From the Original Movie 'Jaws' fades away...

Or maybe
'Baby Shark' hehe...

i Like the 'Mommy Shark'
Version So Much Better HAha...

Yes Reminds me of So Very Many
Nights at the Dance Hall Indeed... hmm...

Such A Long Shelf Life Some Of Us have Indeed (450 MiLLioN Years too)
Even With Virgin Shark Births For God Damn Real Adapting to Struggle For Real...

"Hit me With Your Best Shot" Could BE A TheMe SonG for THiS Whole 'S' SHow of Hope...

It DepEnds
On Each and
Every Human View... iNDeeD.

https://www.songfacts.com/facts/pat-benatar/hit-me-with-your-best-shot



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30 Jul 2022, 9:41 am

It is a great loss. Now if we can just get her to stop preforming all her others songs. :)


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30 Jul 2022, 10:11 am

@Agogday

Youre not first on this thread. Someone higher up in the thread also referenced the "Songfacts" site article, and covered the same ground.

But it is nice that you linked to it for us all to read.


But again its a problematic song from the get-go.

Its about a certain issue in life in general. Confidence, and taking on whatever life throws at you. Which is fine. But social commentary songs like that tend to follow the songwriting convention - of forcing the theme into the pigeonhole of - boy meets girl. Pop songs are supposed about relationships. So even a song that is not about relationships has to use romance as a metaphor. Joni Mitchel's "Big Yellow Taxi" does it to great effect- she sings about how she ' heard the screen door slam...my old man left in a big yellow taxi... you dont know what have till its gone..." in order to talk about the environment and deforestation (they took all of the trees and put them in a tree museum...they paved paradise in turned it into a parking lot).

"Hit Me" tries to do the same thing. But even in its original male pov form it didnt work quite as well as "Big Yellow Taxi". And when you switch the gender of the singer it gets even more problematic. The song was already a confusing mess when Benatar first sang it decades ago.

Its probably time to put the song out of its misery.



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30 Jul 2022, 10:11 am

Never cared much for pop music from the eighties.No big loss.I didn’t like most of it then ,and I hate most of it now.
I wish they wouldn’t play it on the radio station, I’d rather hear something new.
Why is it when some people age all they listen to is music from their teen years?
Top hits of the eighties,ugh.


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30 Jul 2022, 10:55 am

naturalplastic wrote:

The song's lyrics never made any sense when sung in a woman's voice anyway,

This is 2022 we are supposed be beyound binary gender roles. :D
It’s ok, I am not going to cancel you for it.

Like I said earlier, we interpret songs based on on past experiences and current prejudices. I interpreted as a feminist call to arms.(I hope she did not read the last part :lol: )


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