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23 Aug 2022, 4:58 pm

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In the same manner, women try to weed out guys who only want sex and then move to the next woman. By delaying sex (or expensive gifts) until after you known the person and feel that they like you for who you are, you can theoretically minimize your risk of being used and hurt.

So how do you explain the existence of Tinder?



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23 Aug 2022, 6:24 pm

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In the same manner, women try to weed out guys who only want sex and then move to the next woman. By delaying sex (or expensive gifts) until after you known the person and feel that they like you for who you are, you can theoretically minimize your risk of being used and hurt.

So how do you explain the existence of Tinder?


Apparently, 75.8% of people using Tinder in 2021 were male.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/975 ... io-gender/

Every woman is different (that can't be stressed enough), but it would seem that women are less likely to use a platform like Tinder than men are although some certainly do use it. I never have, and I would never consider it. I just wouldn't be comfortable with something like that.


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23 Aug 2022, 9:25 pm

I wouldn’t use Tinder, either, were I single.



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23 Aug 2022, 10:27 pm

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I wouldn’t use Tinder, either, were I single.

Cause you can't tell tinder apart from timber and lumber. :lol: :lmao:


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23 Aug 2022, 10:36 pm

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I wouldn’t use Tinder, either, were I single.

Cause you can't tell tinder apart from timber and lumber. :lol: :lmao:


Tinder was used to start fires..... that's probably why the app is named that.... like, "let's spark a flame" :lol:


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24 Aug 2022, 12:09 am

How about never. Let her take the lead.


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24 Aug 2022, 2:10 am

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How about never. Let her take the lead.


Most women seem to want some encouragement from men for them to get started though.



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24 Aug 2022, 3:57 am

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NO, IT DOESN'T MEAN YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE SEX WITH HER.

I need to emphasize that---because that's the assumption men make all the time.

Most "decent" women would not want you to have sex the first time they get invited to your apartment. They want to have a cup of coffee, or tea, or food, or whatever. And just sit down, talk, and you guys get to know each other.

Be a good host. That's important. Be a gentleman.

In my experience, I HAVEN'T had sex immediately with somebody who invited me to her apartment/house, or who accepted an invitation to my apartment.

What do you mean by 'decent'?

What's so indecent about women who do have sex the first time they're invited to a guy's apartment?


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24 Aug 2022, 8:55 am

That's why I put it in quotes.

I'm not a person who makes too many moral judgments.

But I believe the default in these situations is that no sex is going to happen.

And....please don't sic your avatar on me! :mrgreen:



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24 Aug 2022, 9:15 am

Where_am_I wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
NO, IT DOESN'T MEAN YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE SEX WITH HER.

I need to emphasize that---because that's the assumption men make all the time.

Most "decent" women would not want you to have sex the first time they get invited to your apartment. They want to have a cup of coffee, or tea, or food, or whatever. And just sit down, talk, and you guys get to know each other.

Be a good host. That's important. Be a gentleman.

In my experience, I HAVEN'T had sex immediately with somebody who invited me to her apartment/house, or who accepted an invitation to my apartment.

What do you mean by 'decent'?

What's so indecent about women who do have sex the first time they're invited to a guy's apartment?


Broad rule of thumb is that being invited to someone's home is not an immediate "I want to shag you" invitation. (Though from past experience it often is)

That being said, you don't even need to be invited to an apartment as instant approval for sex. Approval for sex has happened to me in under a minute depending on how ungodly horny someone is.



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24 Aug 2022, 10:07 am

Oh well....I'm not THAT good......

But I'm cool with that 8)

I've been invited to quite a few woman's apartments----and, most of the time, we just sat at a table and had dessert or something.



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24 Aug 2022, 10:24 am

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kraftiekortie wrote:
NO, IT DOESN'T MEAN YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE SEX WITH HER.

I need to emphasize that---because that's the assumption men make all the time.

Most "decent" women would not want you to have sex the first time they get invited to your apartment. They want to have a cup of coffee, or tea, or food, or whatever. And just sit down, talk, and you guys get to know each other.

Be a good host. That's important. Be a gentleman.

In my experience, I HAVEN'T had sex immediately with somebody who invited me to her apartment/house, or who accepted an invitation to my apartment.

What do you mean by 'decent'?

What's so indecent about women who do have sex the first time they're invited to a guy's apartment?


Broad rule of thumb is that being invited to someone's home is not an immediate "I want to shag you" invitation. (Though from past experience it often is)

That being said, you don't even need to be invited to an apartment as instant approval for sex. Approval for sex has happened to me in under a minute depending on how ungodly horny someone is.

Yeah, I'm aware of that.

I took issue with the word 'decent' in there, so wanted Kraftie to explain himself.


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24 Aug 2022, 10:29 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
That's why I put it in quotes.

I'm not a person who makes too many moral judgments.

But I believe the default in these situations is that no sex is going to happen.

And....please don't sic your avatar on me! :mrgreen:

Why did you include the word at all? I don't understand.

Why didn't you just say this?:
"Most women would not want to have sex the first time they get invited to your apartment."


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24 Aug 2022, 10:32 am

All right....I suppose I should have....



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24 Aug 2022, 12:57 pm

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To be honest, I agree, but atleast here in my country(Israel), there are alot of women who are immature and even women who are 25+ here behave like a 15 years old, for some reason. I dont really know why, thats just how the culture is like here. Yeah, its a very sad situation, no doubt about it, and I'm kind of jealous at Canadians and Americans who tend to be more mature at the age range of 21 - 30 or so. Here, its the complete opposite. The women here are so immature, its crazy man. But other than that, they're also not taking anything seriously, so "getting laid" isnt even relevant, and trust and respect is difficult to do when the woman is so immature and fails to take a relationship seriously. So thats the problem I'm dealing with now, I havent yet really found a woman who is mature enough to her age, which means I need to work harder to find the right one. Its a big problem, and Israeli women have a tendency to be immature, gold diggers, closed minded, or all at once. Sad, right? What do you think about all this?

I really doubt that Israeli women are especially immature. My wife's female ancestors were Ashkenazi Jews and they took responsibility for EVERYTHING while their husbands spent their free time davening. My wife also takes on too much responsibility if you ask me, especially in comparison to her two brothers. When I was in Israel, I got the impression that Israelis thought Westerners were relatively child like because they hadn't spent their entire lives facing an existential threat. Most of them knew somebody who had died in the War of 1973 CE. It might not be quite the same today, but your understanding of women is probably a major hindrance in your goal to find romance. If you have female family members, you should perhaps ask to discuss your views with them and after they're done screaming at you they might tell you some things to help you understand. Painful but necessary medicine.


I think you're being quite rude with the way you talk to me/about me generally, and thats also quite a hindrance at discussing things. We're not friends and we seem to be disagreeing about many things(around the forums), so if you disagree about something and you feel like you must reply about it, try to "watch your mouth" as the saying goes and avoid jumping to wrong/unfair conclusions or assumptions about others, including me.

About the subject itself, I'd like to share a little more information about that, and that might also help you/others understand things a little better(although probably not as good as I do, since I was born in Israel).

Well basically, the culture is different here and the women have a general tendency to be gold diggers, but thats especially in the central part of the country. In Israel we have the large Tel Aviv metropolitan area and the cities near / surrounding Tel aviv. Thats where among the richest residents reside, and naturally female gold diggers are a frequent occurrence. There are many young women who care more about money than about getting laid, so they turn to prostitution alot, but they also would jump on the opportunity to have a rich boyfriend. However, in the Northern and Southern parts of the country, where it is considered more the "countryside" parts of the country, these areas have a more tolerable population and that includes the women too, especially younger ones. They have a general tendency to be more emotional and have a warm attitude and so on.

However, my understanding of women isnt the problem here, my problem is, like many others, the Asperger Syndrome I have. But about your un-asked for advice to me about talking to other women in my family and ask for their help/advice, sounds really stupid to be honest, I really dont need your advice or asked your advice about something like this. And honestly, a person with a terrible attitude like yours would be the last person on earth I'd ask for advice about this subject, despite the fact I didnt even ask anyways. You can be ignorant and thats fine, not everyone is aware of some things, but to jump to conclusions/assumptions without personally knowing someone is not just rude, its just stupid and pointless.

Lets be honest also, if I really was 100% sure I have a problem with the way I understand women I would also definitely know who to contact for that and how to get help. I wouldnt need to ask someone like you without the basic ability to talk to others with respect about it.

Failure with relationships / women generally, doesnt necessarily translate to a problem with understanding women. Its just bad luck generally and the fact I have unfortunately encountered the wrong women, as well as the fact I am generally a shy person sometimes and tend not to have alot of friends, which means I have limited opportunities to meet new women.


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24 Aug 2022, 1:22 pm

All I'll say is, when you ask for advice be prepared for the advice you weren't expecting.


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