Gen X biggest Trump supporters in US

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The average german probably also liked Hitler's ideas about
Making Germany great again (sound familiar)
Putting Germans first
supporting WWI veterans
getting pro-nazis out of prison
being anti-establishment

Not equivalent to me.

One is a mechanism to ensure the electoral vote doesn't overtake the popular, and triggers by an event out of the control of state's legislators. Driver being a belief that the reasons we have an electoral college are obsolete. And frustration at seeing the will of the voters in their states not having equal power to voters in smaller states. It can just as easily work against the interest of the state leaders as for.

One is a mechanism to make sure the electoral vote supersedes the popular at the sole discretion of the current legislature, driven by being able to elect the president the power players in the state prefer under a cover of wanting to prevent another 2020 election "steal." This will only ever be used in one direction: to superimpose the will of a gerrymandered legislature over the will of the voters in that state.

Of course, we should get rid of the Electoral College.

Basically, except for three states, the popular vote winner for the state gets their Electors. Even in the three states where it's not absolute, the popular vote winner for the region of the state gets those Electors.

I'm Gen X and I don't support any president. And not just because I live in Canada where my feelings don't matter, anyway. But I get it, every generation except the one you were born in is horrible.

More so gen x according to the polls, and evidently it's due to huffing leaded gasoline fumes.

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A Median Age of Viewers Who Adhere to
"Fox News" More Like Glue is 68 That Includes
Generation X, Baby Boomer's, And The 'Silent Generation' too.

Generations Z, And Millennials AS A Whole Are Approaching
To Be the 'Largest Voting Bloc' In The United States Very Soon.

This Spells Big Problems for Republicans, Specifically As the
Percentages of Support are Less than 20 Percent for Republicans;
Yet of Course, Independents Are the Largest Demographic of All;
And Increasingly So, Among Generation Z and Millennials too;

What is For Sure is AS A WHOLE THEY DO NOT SUPPORT TRUMP;

AND in Analysis Now, Particularly, Since Gas Prices Have Fallen to 3 Dollars
And 9 Cents Where i LiVE, in Matt Gaetz District, 'Florida Man Land,' WHere
70 Percent Voted for That Truly Despicable Leader as Evidence Clearly Relates

Per,

My God Fat Shaming Women
On TV And Lonely Millennial
Women As Well, Just Despicable Indeed;

(Along With DeSaTaNiS And TRuMP of Course)

There Are Other ISSUES too YES; Yet A Most
Salient Feature to Folks Who LiVE Pay-Check
to Pay-Check IS Gas is Moving Down in the
Two-Dollar Range a Gallon Again; Un-Park
The Four Wheel Drives Off-The-Road And Put 'em In Drive

As 'Real Men' And Such on 'The Freeway' Again...

The Trump Support Among Independents is Fading away
As they Are Moving Back to 'The Blue' According to Newer Polls
Than Last May As Biden Is Becoming 'The Bomb' in A Good Way Newer Now

MORE PROGRESSIVE For
'Common Folks'

of GETTING
STUFF DONE;

NEVER the less,

i Do Agree with Much of
What Politico Said About
Generation X, Supporting
A More Conservative Way of Politics
As It's True They Haven't Benefitted As Much

From a Culture That Used to Have More
Jobs With Life-Long Benefits, Like Many
Of Us Boomers Are Thriving More With Than
Ever Before in A REAL 'GOLDEN AGE' NOT TOO COMMON
IN THIS WORLD HiSToRiCaLLY AS WHOLE YET VERY SPECIFIC

TO MANY OF MY
BOOMER PEERS WITH GREAT
SOCIO-ECONOMIC POWER NOW;

NOT TO SAY, THEY ARE ACTUALLY
HAPPY YET THEY DO BUY UP THE REAL ESTATE And Such
as 'Snow Birds' Increasingly Coming Down Here to 'Sunshine Land'

Staycationing Like me In Golden Age Boomer Retirement Land Freer;

Meanwhile, the Price of my Paid-Off Home Has Skyrocketed 4-Fold
What We Purchased it For in 1993, A Best Investment Ever indeed...

Generally Speaking, During Pandemic And Plague Conditions As
History Shows, Governments Become More Authoritarian to Insure
The Survival of The Society AS Whole; Generally Speaking, in Abundance,

Folks Become More Liberal and Free Spirited; Generally Speaking, in Scarcity, More

Folks Become CONSERVATIVE And Even More Closed Minded.

AND THAT'S JUST FRIGGING COMMON SENSE;

i Was Much More Conservative back in the More
Hungry Days of Life; There Really is No Choice,
Fiscally At Least, if Ya Wanna Keep Surviving and
Not Lose Your House and Car and All That Investment

That's Gonna Increase Four-Fold One Day; Trump Promised

Greater Social Economic Stability; Generation X Heard the Promise;

Yet Not Everyone is Foolish Enough to Continue to Support Someone
Who Attempted to Overthrow Our Democracy Continuing With that Effort Now;

Or Stow Top Secret
Nuclear Stuff that Nope,

No One is Supposed to See
Out in the 'Boonies' of Florida;
Even the 'Boonies' Decorated With Gold.

Just Talked to my Uncle Who is on the Cusp of Oldest
Baby Boomers and Youngest Silent Generation Folks;

He's 'Rich'; (He's Got Golden Color Plated Toilet Handles At His
Mansion on the Shalimar Point Bay on The Emerald Gulf Coast)
He's Always, ALWAYS Voted For Whoever Will Keep His Taxes
Lower; He Said He Could Convince me to Vote For Trump in 2024;

i Rarely Use the

'F' NO, Word(s) and Have
Never Used IT Before with
Him Until He Entertained
That Potential of Persuasion Hehe...

Most Everyone in my Family Wears
the Big 'R;' i For One, Wear The Big 'H' For
Human AND EVEN BIGGEST 'N' FOR ALL NATURE
And GOD YES! Proud for the Big 'A' STill of American
Freedoms That i most DEFINITELY NOW MAKE MY
DECLARATIONS OF INDEPENDENCE FOR REAL STiLL...

What i Noticed in the Last Years in My Position as
Administrator of Programs, Manager, and Supervisor
For the Federal Government Retiring At NF-04, Grade, Early, Disabled
With 19 Medical Disorders in A Grade Equivalent to an 0-4 Marine Major
is That After my Generation, Folks Were Not Even Taking Advantage of the
Non-Appropriated Fund Retirement Program (i Was/Am Still in the Regular
'FERS' Program) That Still Provides Life-Long Benefits for Folks Who Stay in the
System Long Enough;

That Kind of

Loyalty to the

Work Place Left
In the Area i Work
At Least then for that
Specific Demographic
of Federal Employment;

Listen, the Golden Hand-Cuffs
Were Not Easy to Endure for A
Quarter of A Century to Get the
Big Life-Long Pay-Off At the End;

IT Almost Killed me in Terms of Autism
Burn-out on the Autism Spectrum and
took 66 Months of my Life in a Living Hell
For Real Recovering Enough to Enjoy Life Again;

Still Though Just my Retirement Alone Is Close
to the Income my Uncle Saved That Generates His

Income Now

That isn't Much
Relatively Speaking in Terms of 4 Percent
In Returns As A Going Rate of that Although
He's Closing in on 80 And Can Afford to Spend
Much More Than Returns Lasting Several More Decades...

"Gen Xers (ages 41 to 56) are slightly ahead of their younger
counterparts, with an average of $67,100 in their personal
savings and $98,900 put away for retirement. Both generations
trail well behind baby boomers (ages 57 to 75), who have an average
of $102,400 in personal savings and $138,900 in their retirement accounts."

Per Statistics Gathered By CNBC.

Without A Pension Plan That Money is Practically Pennies on the Dollar For What
It Takes to Actually Retire and Thrive; And Not to Have to Worry When Gas Goes Up

Even
20 Dollars
A Gallon; Yep,

Life and Liberty

Isn't As Much if You
Don't Have Now What
it Takes to Pursue Happiness....

Personally, it Doesn't take me
Much Money And STUFF at all; Yet for Most Folks IT DOES.

(WHEN EVERYTHING IS PAID-OFF AND YOU ARE NAKED, ENOUGH,
WHOLE COMPLETE, WITHOUT ADDITIONAL NEEDS THAT HELPS)

TRUMP IS THE MONEY AND STUFF GUY; HE'S THEIR DREAM OF
UNSHACKLING 'THE
CHAINS;'

Yet, YES A

BAD DREAM
NOW FOR REAL,

For Those Who Will
See Through His Grift(S)...

Yet Again, In REAL SCaRCiTY

It's Often About Being SCaReD
And Looking to an 'Authoritarian
Figure' or a 'Big Daddy' to Help Save ya...

'Yawn,' As Far As Predictability Goes; It's Human And Nature For Real...

And This Is A Philosophy of Politics And Religion That Work Together Expressing What's Still Real Now.

There Was an Economic Promise That Folks Saw Hope in 'Trump' From a Place of Scarcity, Particularly Among

Generation X'ers...

Yet Without 'Christian
Evangelism' Jacking-Up
Trump As Some Kind
of Prophecy Fulfilliling

To Bring Back Jesus
And Some Promise of Heaven SOONER
THAN NEVER Without Trump's Ability to Game
THAT Human Frailty And Reality of Rationality,

Trump Would Just Be Grifting Someone And Something Else...

How People FAiL to See Through Him iS Way Under my Radar For Damned Sure;

Yet Of Course, There is A Whole Sub-Group of Humanity Who Gets Gamed By
Every Snake Oil-Sales

Person or Shady

Used Car Person

With Lemon
Guarantees
That and Who
Comes THeiR Way in Life;

True, Some Folks Will Reach Out With
Hope in Poisonous Snake Pits ThiS Way...

Even if 'They' Promise Them in Advance That if
'They' Shoot Someone on 5th Avenue in BROADEST
DAYLIGHT Coming Out of 'Bate's Motel' They
Will Still Support Trump; Yes, Support TRuMP

(Clue: Run As Fast As 'You' Can Away From
Someone With A Promise Like That in Life)

Stink Stank Stunk Now 'Bad, Bad, Orange Man' for REAL;

(It's Not Real, It's Only Spray-on For Orange And Blonde)

While it may Be Sad, It's Part of the Human Condition
And Real That Will Continue Among Some Folks As Is...

YeP IT iS
What it is...

And This is Just
my Opinion And
i'll Be Back With More Opinions too...

Not Necessarily in This Thread Yet
Somewhere Around the World in
A Free Verse Poem, just little old me, me, me...

Hehe, WITH PLENTY OF EVIDENTIARY 'FaCTS AND
FiGURES' 'LEFT BEHIND' AS NECESSARY OF COURSE TOO.

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https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/20/how-much-each-generation-saves-for-retirement.html

You've invoked Godwins law.

!	The_Walrus wrote:
	You’ve already had it pointed out to you that this is both a bad argument and offensive. It is not at all helpful to proclaim that a whole generation vote the way they do because they are brain damaged - indeed, it is a breach of the forum rule against attacking groups of people (it’s a thinly-veiled “other team bad” attack). Please desist.

I’m afraid I’m aware that my generation managed to either make a mess of things, or at least blindly allow multiple areas of life to digress. We are not doing better economically than our parents and our kids have less opportunity to thrive. Some things improved, it isn’t all bad, but I don’t think most of us are very happy with our report card.

I think what's important is that Americans learn from their mistakes. Argentina is a good example of a country that flirted with fascism for a while and it's people were brainwashed. Today they have tried very hard to seperate themselves from the Peron regime. Argentina has grown and matured. Americans could learn a lesson from them.

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Argentina is still dominated by Peronists.

Menem was a Peronist. The Kirchners were Peronists. Fernandez is a Peronist.

There are soooo many better examples of post-authoritarian states. Germany is a big obvious one. Spain. Japan. Italy. The Baltics. Slovenia and Croatia. You even have great examples right next door to Argentina: Uruguay and Chile.

Eh, I hold the left to a higher standard mainly because I am on the left. Though the left has always had religious elements, even if they do not always influence politics in the same way for each believer. People can move left for religious reasons the same way people move to the right for religious reasons. I feel like this gets less notice than it should, since the religious left is less vocal and less Jesus-obsessed. The religious have always been drawn to the left out of concern for the poor and marginalized, so I would say their is a religious element in instances of moral superiority on the left, it just isn't as overt. "Look at how much I care about poor and marginalized peoples! Look how green I am! Aren't I good? I'm way gooder than you!" People can virtue signal in the same manner regardless of religion.


It's not like Rowling was daring to speak in support of mainstream capitalism. Disparaging trans people helps maintain a culture that gets trans people killed. It is a matter of stopping bullying in our schools and workplaces. If you bully someone for doing nothing to hurt anyone, then it's your own fault if you are marginalized because people tend to not like bullies. Rowling is an enabler of bullies and worse who is facing the logical social consequences. Rowling is an enabler of people who bully autistic kids, who are more likely than the NT's to question arbitrary standards of gender.


Both sides of any moral issue are going to have zealots as well as calm, rational people. (People are morally uneven). That does not mean that both sides on a moral/social/any issue are of equal merit. History has been a big up and down in terms of morality, but we live in freer, more accepting times than before because there came to be a social consensus that one side (right or left or neither or both or something else) was Incorrect. People have been "cancelled" throughout history for refusing to accept social moral standards that changed for the better. If we had online forums in the 60's, we would have people playing victim for being cancelled for supporting eg: segregation.
People can be right and still be insufferable snobs. The winning side always has its share of insufferable snobs.

Cite? I've got a whole thread about Rowling going, so far no one has been able to quote her saying anything bad about trans people, she just doesn't buy the "trans woman are women" line.

I think you answered your own question. There's no shortage of transphobic things Rowling has said. But just going off your own example: saying trans women are not women is fundamentally transphobic. It is casually disrespecting and dismissing the identity of millions of people who face discrimination at best or deadly violence at worst for their identity.
I don't keep up with that thread in question, but it feels disingenuous to act like Rowling has just not made seriously damaging comments about trans people and uses her influence to support a belief system that puts trans people in danger of bullying, homelessness, and murder.

And we are fixating on this one thing instead of the many factors that go into what makes Gen X as conservative as they are. If I wanted to talk in circles about J.K., I would go to that thread.

No, it's not, it's observing a basic biological fact.

No it isn't. It's factually incorrect. Trans women are women, it's in the name. Saying that trans women are not women is transphobic, in the same way that saying lesbians are not women is homophobic, or saying that black women are not women is racist. Woman is a gender, not a sex; they are scientifically separate concepts. Little girls are not women even though they are female, ewes are not women even though they are female.

In theory, "trans women do not have ovaries" is a basic biological fact. But the existence of trans women, as well as cis women who have had double oophorectomies, and some intersex women, tells us that having ovaries is not necessary for being a woman. That is a scientific fact. And bluntly, if someone goes around regularly saying stuff like "trans women do not have ovaries" in a context other than teaching children about trans people or some similar context... I'm gonna look at them with the same suspicion I'd look at someone who keeps bringing up black crime statistics or gay paedos. I can see the point they're probably trying to make and they're not going to pull the wool over my eyes.