How the Media Fell for A Racism Sham

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18 Sep 2022, 4:03 am

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Before jumping to conclusions we need to first establish whether Richardson is lying. Just because nobody has come forward from Brigham Young to corroborate her claim doesn't automatically mean she was lying.

No reporter has come forward, no referee has come forward, and nobody associated with BYU's opponents has come forward.

While the issue of if Richardson is lying or misheard something is important, the subject of this thread is media malpractice. If a newspaper ran my thread unedited it would be malpractice. From their offices, they wrote stories based on conclusions they jumped to. If today 20 people come forward backed by 20 "smoking gun" videos backing Richardson completely that does not change that.


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18 Sep 2022, 5:52 am

While there hasn't been team mates come and corroborate her version I wonder if this might be a case of Richardson being primed to scan the environment for racial slurs?

Amidst the noise the white players auditory scans pick up the usual "you suck', "miss" or "you can't throw".
If the player is overweight they might be a little worried about their appearance and scan for calls of "fatty" from the opposition cheer squad.
In Richardson's case she is painfully aware she's the only black girl in the whole team. She might be acutely attuned for the n-word and perhaps correctly picked up one person in the crowd whose slur went unnoticed for everyone else.

But I did see the Duke players turn and face the crowd so they definitely did pick up something out of the ordinary. There's also the matter of the death threat which I am sure needs to be thoroughly investigated.



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18 Sep 2022, 11:19 am

Media hit with backlash over coverage of BYU racial-heckling allegation

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Mainstream media outlets and university officials are being accused of a rush to judgment in response to allegations of racial slurs at a Brigham Young University volleyball game, a claim challenged by a recent investigation.

But the investigation’s findings, which came after reports in the Utah press cast doubt on the accuracy of the player’s accusation, prompting calls for a reckoning by media outlets that presented the racism allegation as if it were fact.

“There’s no way the media outlets who screwed this up can make up for it, but they sure should try,” tweeted conservative media critic Steve Krakauer, host of the Fourth Watch podcast.

He emphasized that the BYU report isn’t the final word. The university itself urged anyone with information contrary to its findings to come forward, but the inability of school officials and Utah media outlets to find a corroborating witness comes in stark contrast to the tone of the initial news reports.

For example, the New York Times ran an Aug. 27 article saying that a “Duke University player who is Black was called a racial slur during a game the night before.”
MSNBC posted an Aug. 29 op-ed by Dave Zirin headlined “The racism on display at Brigham Young Friday fits a historical pattern,”

Since then, however, some media figures have tempered their earlier criticism, including Smith.

“Racism, prejudice still exist in this country. We all know it. We know how prevalent it is, and we know it is something that completely needs to be eradicated,” Smith said on a Friday show. “Having said that, we’re not doing ourselves any favors if we bring it up and broach it when it doesn’t exist, and that’s the key that we need to focus on.”
Also pulling back was CNN.

On Monday, CNN anchor John Avlon used the BYU incident to launch a segment on media accountability called Upon Further Review.

“Now, healthy skepticism is always a virtue, but this doesn’t read like a cover-up,” Avlon said. “Instead, it feels like there was a rush to judgment because of a well-intentioned impulse to believe the Duke player’s accusations.”

He pointed out that the BYU report never calls Richardson a liar, but “leaves open the possibility that she sincerely believes that she heard repeated racial heckling and that some sort of misunderstanding occurred.”

So far the universities that were most critical of BYU have stuck by their initial criticism.
University of South Carolina women’s basketball coach Dawn Staley announced Sept. 2 that she had canceled the Gamecocks’ 2022-23 and 2023-24 series with BYU, and that she would seek a different opponent for the Nov. 7 home opener.

In a Friday statement, Staley said she had not changed her mind despite the results of the probe by BYU, which is owned and operated by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

Duke University President Vincent Price said in an Aug. 28 statement that he was “outraged by the racist slurs and taunts directed at members of our volleyball team at BYU this weekend.”
After the results of the BYU investigation, Nina King, Duke vice president and athletic director, issued a statement with the hashtag “#HateWontLiveHere.”

“The 18 members of the Duke University volleyball team are exceptionally strong women who represent themselves, their families and Duke University with the utmost integrity,” she said. “We unequivocally stand with and champion them, especially when their character is called into question. Duke Athletics believes in respect, equality and inclusiveness, and we do not tolerate hate and bias.”

Richardson and her family have not commented publicly on the BYU conclusions.


Why have her teammates not publicly backed her and their administration?


As far as “being primed” if you are constantly a victim of racism or are growing up being told systematic racism effects every aspect of life you are likely to see racism where none exists. But that is purely speculation just like speculating BYU is involved in a massive coverup because it is a Mormon run school and that religion has roots in white supremacy.


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23 Sep 2022, 7:45 am

It looks like BYU is suffering a code of silence. Despite nobody coming forward so far:

1. We know the fan in question was identified, thrown out and banned.
2, BYU has closed of the fan section closest to players to protect them



If you watch the video the BYU students all seem to be covering up something, Smells like Covington High School, Very "creamy" student body.



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23 Sep 2022, 8:46 am

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It looks like BYU is suffering a code of silence. Despite nobody coming forward so far:

1. We know the fan in question was identified, thrown out and banned.
2, BYU has closed of the fan section closest to players to protect them



If you watch the video the BYU students all seem to be covering up something, Smells like Covington High School, Very "creamy" student body.

You are implying because the students are white they must be racist.

Even if somehow all the BYU students and employees are involved in a cover up, that still does not explain reporters, and her Duke teammates not saying a slur was used.

Possible explanations for the section being closed and the student banned from the section are that after Richardson made the accusation either the school assumed it must be true or they virtue signaled because they expected the media to assume its true.


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23 Sep 2022, 9:21 am

The year of the graves: How the world’s media got it wrong on residential school graves

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This is how it all began, a year ago this week: ‘Horrible History’: Mass Grave of Indigenous Children Reported in Canada. On May 28, 2021, that’s how the New York Times headlined the first of a summer-long series of gruesome “discoveries” that precipitated a descent into paroxysms of shame, guilt and rage that swept across the country.

That first story was ostensibly about 215 children whose remains were discovered in a mass grave at the site of the long-shuttered Kamloops Indian Residential School, on the grounds of the main Tk’emlúps te Secwe̓pemc reserve in British Columbia’s southern interior. The New York Times headline illustrates the way the story was almost universally reported.

Except that’s not what happened in Kamloops.

In the following weeks, while the term “mass graves” generally gave way to “unmarked graves,” a cascade of breaking news events purported to reveal several discoveries of what eventually added up to more than 1,300 child burials at other residential school sites across Canada. Except that’s not what happened in those places, either.

Still, there were protests and violence in cities and towns from one end of Canada to the other. Dozens of churches were vandalized. Several churches were razed to the ground, some of them beloved old Indian reserve churches where Indigenous communities had baptized their children and eulogized their dead going back generations.

Statues were toppled and smashed. Canada Day events were cancelled. The Maple Leaf was lowered on Parliament Hill and on all federal buildings across the country. United Nations human rights special rapporteurs called on Canada to conduct a full investigation.

The uproars were widely characterized as a “long overdue reckoning” with the legacy of Canada’s Indian residential schools. But nothing new about the schools was revealed last summer. Despite the saturation of news coverage, the international spotlight and the reopening of old wounds inflicted on so many Indigenous people in those schools over the years, nothing new was added to the public record.

The legacy of the schools had already been exhaustively explored in the testimony of hundreds of elders and a series of inquiries, public hearings, criminal cases, settlements and federal investigations going back decades. Most important of these efforts were the widely publicized undertakings of the 2008-2015 Truth and Reconciliation Commission of Canada (TRC), and the content of its voluminous findings.

On the subject of reckonings and anniversaries: it was exactly 100 years ago this year that Peter Henderson Bryce, the former medical inspector for the Department of Indian Affairs, published a shocking account of the federal government’s indifference to deaths from infectious diseases and heartless neglect in the Indian residential schools. The 24-page booklet was titled, “The Story of a National Crime: Being an Appeal for Justice to the Indians of Canada; The Wards of The Nation, Our Allies in the Revolutionary War, Our Brothers-in-Arms in the Great War.”

Bryce’s tell-all bombshell sparked what could be called a long-overdue reckoning with the legacy of Indian residential schools.

As for the most recent uproars: not a single mass grave was discovered in Canada last year. The several sites of unmarked graves that captured international headlines were either already-known cemeteries, or they remain sites of speculation even now, unverified as genuine grave sites. Not a single child among the 3,201 children on the Truth and Reconciliation Commission’s 2015 registry of residential school deaths was located in any of these places. In none of these places were any human remains unearthed.

This is not to engage in “residential school denialism,” or to downplay the suffering endured by Indigenous people in the 139 mostly church-run and mostly Catholic institutions that were in operation from the 1820s to the 1990s. This is not to dispute the proposition that the residential school system’s policy amounted to cultural genocide, at least in its foundational years, or to disregard the brutal sexual, emotional and psychological abuse inflicted on the institutions’ inmates.

Given the unconscionable death toll in the schools due to malnutrition, tuberculosis, influenza, meningitis, pneumonia and other infectious diseases — the mortality rate in the residential schools in the early years was sometimes up to five times higher than among children in regular schools — it should be expected that there are long-forgotten burials in the vicinity of some school sites. The school in Kamloops was one of the system’s largest and longest running, in operation from 1890 to 1969.

But there was something utterly surreal about last year’s eruptions. It’s difficult to see how either truth or reconciliation had anything to do with it.

One of the most totemic images from the turbulent summer of 2021 depicted Prime Minister Justin Trudeau holding a teddy bear, kneeling at a little flag marking the site of a grave near the former Marieval residential school on the Cowessess reserve in Saskatchewan’s Qu’Appelle Valley.

Except it wasn’t a just-discovered residential school burial ground. The graveyard where Trudeau knelt was a Catholic cemetery, a community cemetery. Children and adults, Indigenous and settler, were buried there, going back generations. The National Centre for Truth and Reconciliation, the successor to the Truth and Reconciliation Commission, lists nine students who died at Marieval in the century between the school’s opening and its closing in 1997.

The “discovery” of unmarked graves at the Marieval cemetery was one of the most dramatic front-page sensations that circled the world last summer. The June 24 headline in the Washington Post was typical: Hundreds of Graves Found at Former Residential School for Indigenous Children in Canada. The number of graves reportedly discovered: 751.

Except that’s not what happened.

The Cowessess people noted from the outset that they didn’t discover any graves; the crosses and headstones had gone missing under disputed circumstances decades earlier, and ground-penetrating radar had been brought in to enumerate and pinpoint the location of each burial. Cowesses Chief Cadmus Delorme told CBC News: “This is a Roman Catholic grave site. It’s not a residential school grave site.”

Cowessess elder and former Marieval student Lloyd Lerat said the depiction of the cemetery as a burial ground for residential school children took on a life of its own. Lerat told Jorge Barrera of the CBC’s Indigenous unit in Ottawa: “We’ve always known these were there.… It’s just the fact that the media picked up on unmarked graves, and the story actually created itself from there because that’s how it happens.”

The Marieval uproar was similar to other gravesite-discovery shocks that played out sequentially in the national and international news media last summer: it wasn’t the Indigenous people directly involved who made the disturbing claims that ended up in the headlines.

From the beginning, the local Indigenous leaders tended to argue for careful, thoughtful and precise language. It was Tk’emlúps te Secwépemc Chief Rosanne Casimir who pointed out, after the first shocking headlines: “This is not a mass grave, but rather unmarked burial sites that are, to our knowledge, also undocumented.”

What made last summer’s upheavals different from previous “overdue reckoning” episodes wasn’t just the innovation of ground-penetrating radar in the search for the remains of the children who died after being enrolled at residential schools.

It was also that the initial “mass grave” references appeared to lend credence to a QAnon-like conspiracy theory popularized by a defrocked white United Church minister in the 1990s. Among his many baseless claims was that there was a country-wide archipelago of secret mass graves containing the remains of thousands of children murdered by priests, and behind the scandal was a vast cover-up orchestrated by Indigenous leaders, prime ministers and the Vatican.

Another key difference from earlier “reckonings” was that the residential schools’ legacy was widely interpreted in the lexicon of culture-war hyperbole, with Indigenous people largely portrayed as victims or truth-tellers about the nature of Canada as a white-supremacist, colonial settler state. Fractious divisions among and between traditional historians and a new breed of critical-studies academics, centred on theory-encumbered disputes about whether Canada should be understood only as “genocidal” in its relationships with First Nations, also had a lot to do with it.

The local Indigenous leaders most directly involved in last summer’s “discoveries” tended to be the most cautious of all the various participants in the rancorous public debates. In some cases, those local leaders had never even intended to draw any public attention to the “ground truth” work they were overseeing at the residential school sites that ended up the subject of all those shocking headlines.

The archaeologists and ground-penetration radar (GPR) specialists engaged by those First Nation communities were similarly circumspect about the success of their efforts to locate gravesites, let alone verify persistent, macabre stories about secret graveyards and ritualized night-time burials of murdered residential school students.

This is directly related to something else that has been going on throughout North America. Traditional journalism is undergoing a rapid and debilitating decline along with public trust in the “mainstream” media. The United States has lost 1,800 newsrooms over the past 20 years. In just the year leading up to the Kamloops story, 50 community newspapers were closed in Canada and 2,000 journalism jobs were lost.

In these impoverished conditions, it’s much easier for journalists to construe events in such a way as to uphold an ideologically rigid “narrative” than to go about the hard work of building true stories from the construction material of hard facts.

The empty space left behind by once-thriving newsrooms has been increasingly taken up by a constellation of advocacy-journalism startups and hybrid digital platforms intent upon throwing conventional democratic values off balance.


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23 Sep 2022, 12:26 pm

I'll grab the link later, but someone on CNN actually called out his own network for their sloppy reporting on this story.


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24 Sep 2022, 6:39 am

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In addition to the video showing players turn when the slurs were thrown the other black players also allegedly heard the slur and in addition there's the incident about Rachel Richardson having her life threatened
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/100 ... m-byu-fans

I simply don't trust the Brigham Young University officials conducting their own investigation when (according to Rachel) they refused to take action at the time the incident took place.

Sounds more like sweeping a mess under the carpet and attempting to smear a teenage girl's reputation to cover up a racist incident.

Stop the planet, I'll get off it! When everyone forgets about racism. Why don't we use the word racism on animals, they are all different breeds. I read a lot about racism, used https://samploon.com/free-essays/racism/ for this. There were things I couldn't even think of. I don’t understand what the joke is to blame someone who has a different skin color. People are just degrading!


It’s generally unpleasant for me to talk about this, for how many thousands of years we have not learned anything!



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24 Sep 2022, 2:26 pm

CNN Reporter Calls Out Own Network, Mainstream Media For Knee-Jerk Reaction To BYU Racism Story

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CNN reporter John Avlon gave the sports media and his own network, CNN, a scathing review for their knee-jerk reactions to the Brigham Young University racist slur story involving Duke’s Rachel Richardson.

Avlon’s take sounded a bit like a journalism 101 class: chastising the media to wait for facts on these volatile stories rather than fueling outrage over unknown details.

Healthy skepticism is always a virtue, but this doesn’t read like a cover-up. Instead, it feels like there was a rush to judgment because of a well-intentioned impulse to believe the Duke player’s accusations,” Avlon said on his Upon Further Review segment.

Since the match (Aug. 26) took place in Provo, Utah, an investigation was launched to determine if a non-student BYU fan shouted the N-word and berated Duke volleyball player Rachel Richardson, against little evidence.

Media outlets and celebrities continued to support the racism angle and shut down any examination of the facts as racist.

Avlon called out the outlets that championed Richardson’s victimhood and even included CNN as a supporter of the knee-jerk narrative. Which it was, during both its daytime and primetime programming.

“Fidelity to the facts is all that we as journalists and citizens should ask,” Avlon added. “It’s understandable that there’s a desire to believe people when they say they’ve been victimized, but the accusations have to be backed up by facts and when the facts don’t fit upon further review, we need to set the record straight with as much intensity as the initial reports.”

After BYU completed its nearly two-week investigation, the school confirmed that a racial slur was not shouted at Richardson, and reversed a lifetime ban with an apology to the unidentified heckler. The school interviewed more than 50 witnesses, including those from Duke. Not a single person corroborated Richardson’s allegations.

By then, the sports and news media had put so much stock into its anti-racism angle that they shut down coverage once Richardson’s story was debunked.

Prior to the results of the investigation, USA Today’s Mike Freeman published a piece defending Richardson and called OutKick founder Clay Travis a “right-wing conspiracy theorist” for being one of the few sports media figures to ask relevant questions about Richardson’s allegations. After the investigation showed those questions to be spot on, Freeman tweeted that he doubted the results.

What Freeman and the rest of the media ignored was the evidence behind Clay’s take, including on-the-ground testimonies from fans in attendance, provided by The Cougar Chronicle.

Several attendees at the game stated that a slur was not shouted and that a heckler was removed solely for interrupting play. Additional police statements noted that no racial slur was heard and that the adult male escorted out of the venue was “mentally challenged.”

BYU’s initial reaction, seemingly accepting Richardson’s accusations as fact, probably contributed to some of the early condemnations.

Despite announcing the ban, releasing apologetic statements, nixing the student section at Smith Fieldhouse for a volleyball tournament, and meeting with Richardson to talk about the incident, BYU never provided information on the banned heckler’s identity or what he allegedly did to get the punishment.

Rachel Richardson’s Godmother Played A Role

Richardson’s godmother Lesa Pamplin, a circuit court judge candidate running in Fort Worth, Texas, showcased a history of racist rhetoric, which worked against her initial account of Richardson’s encounter with the BYU fan, where she explicitly used the N-word and painted the BYU community as racist.

“My Goddaughter is the only Black starter for Dukes volleyball team,” Pamplin posted on Twitter. “While playing yesterday, she was called a n****r every time she served. She was threatened by a white male that told her to watch her back going to the team bus. A police officer had to be put by their bench.”

Pamplin was not in attendance at the game.

All along, the media failed to present the facts. And while the case seems closed between Richardson and BYU, the lunacy it created led to some long-lasting effects.

South Carolina Gamecocks women’s basketball coach Dawn Staley canceled a home-and-home series against BYU, expressing that her “selfish” decision was made to protect her players from potential acts of racism at BYU.

Staley also claimed to have conducted her own ”personal research” of the Richardson story and that her findings (and conversations with unnamed sources) validated her concerns. Staley has given no details of her findings.

OutKick reached out to Staley and South Carolina for comment on the decision in light of the BYU investigation and has not received a response.


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24 Sep 2022, 6:43 pm

People comparing this to Jussie Smollet incident need to understand that the outcome for BYU has actually been positive
1. A student was banned for spouting obscenities. Strangely the school has not been forthcoming about what the student said and there is some type of code of silence from the school and their students
2. Students are no longer permitted so close to the players. Whatever the reason this improves player safety and keeps the players away from unpleasant fans
3. Before every match the BYU players announce to fans that innapropriate language will not be tolerated and fans guilty will be thrown out or banned
4. A phone number is circulated to report racists

To me this is a big win against dirty racists who hide in crowds and think they are protected to throw insults/slurs
As I said before - sunlight kills mould/scum.....it's a win-win

Anyone who thinks 1-4 is bad can only be supporting hate speech or vilification



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24 Sep 2022, 10:07 pm

I suppose I shouldn't be so surprised that when the demand for racism has exceeded the supply, not only will it be manufactured, but those who are so desperate for it will refuse to concede when it's exposed as not actually happening.


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24 Sep 2022, 10:38 pm

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I suppose I shouldn't be so surprised that when the demand for racism has exceeded the supply, not only will it be manufactured, but those who are so desperate for it will refuse to concede when it's exposed as not actually happening.


Why are we skipping around why an all white college is acting unison to hide something?
Brigham Young is a predominantly white and Mormon institution

Perhaps they want to tell the rest of America "Nothing to see here folks" because their prophet, Joseph Smith believed black people were cursed (google it).

Brigham Young 99% white student body is not exactly paradise on earth for any black student
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/bla ... -rcna25366

This is a problem with BYU, covering up a systemic problem isn't going to address the underlying problem in values that is shared by the administrators or students who are all connected mormonism.



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24 Sep 2022, 10:48 pm

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Dox47 wrote:
I suppose I shouldn't be so surprised that when the demand for racism has exceeded the supply, not only will it be manufactured, but those who are so desperate for it will refuse to concede when it's exposed as not actually happening.


Why are we skipping around why an all white college is acting unison to hide something?
Brigham Young is a predominantly white and Mormon institution

Perhaps they want to tell the rest of America "Nothing to see here folks" because their prophet, Joseph Smith believed black people were cursed (google it).

Brigham Young 99% white student body is not exactly paradise on earth for any black student
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/bla ... -rcna25366

This is a problem with BYU, covering up a systemic problem isn't going to address the underlying problem in values that is shared by the administrators or students who are all connected mormonism.

Colleges with the Highest Percentage of Black, Non-Hispanic Students:

Spelman College (Atlanta, GA): 97.05%
Mississippi Valley State University (Itta Bena, MS): 95.57%
South Carolina State University (Orangeburg, SC): 95.10%
Morris College (Sumter, SC): 94.92%
Morehouse College (Atlanta, GA): 94.29%

Are they racist institutions?

What about the United Negro College Fund?



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24 Sep 2022, 10:56 pm

Matrix Glitch wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Dox47 wrote:
I suppose I shouldn't be so surprised that when the demand for racism has exceeded the supply, not only will it be manufactured, but those who are so desperate for it will refuse to concede when it's exposed as not actually happening.


Why are we skipping around why an all white college is acting unison to hide something?
Brigham Young is a predominantly white and Mormon institution

Perhaps they want to tell the rest of America "Nothing to see here folks" because their prophet, Joseph Smith believed black people were cursed (google it).

Brigham Young 99% white student body is not exactly paradise on earth for any black student
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/bla ... -rcna25366

This is a problem with BYU, covering up a systemic problem isn't going to address the underlying problem in values that is shared by the administrators or students who are all connected mormonism.

Colleges with the Highest Percentage of Black, Non-Hispanic Students

Spelman College (Atlanta, GA): 97.05%
Mississippi Valley State University (Itta Bena, MS): 95.57%
South Carolina State University (Orangeburg, SC): 95.10%
Morris College (Sumter, SC): 94.92%
Morehouse College (Atlanta, GA): 94.29%


Which is meandering off topic. I am talking about BYU
Of the 33,000 students at Brigham Young University, over 98 percent are members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

< 1% of the student population is black
https://www.byu.edu/facts-figures

The incident at the volleyball match is seen as "business as usual" by students of colour on BYU campushttps://www.kuer.org/race-religio ... g-incident

If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck and waddles like a duck....chances are it's a duck



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24 Sep 2022, 11:15 pm

Brigham Young University Is Investigating Alleged Racial Slurs Against Duke Black Volleyball Players During Game - The Hilltop The Nations Oldest Black Newspaper

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The story first made waves on social media after Richardson’s godmother Lesa Pamplin, a Fort Worth, Texas-based attorney who is currently running for Tarrant County’s Circuit Court Judge’s Number 5 position, posted about it in a tweet that quickly went viral.

“My Goddaughter is the only Black starter for Duke’s volleyball team. While playing yesterday, she was called a n*igger every time she served. She was threatened by a white male that told her to watch her back going to the team bus. A police officer had to be put by their bench,” Pamplin tweeted.

Richardson released a statement on Twitter confirming she and her Black teammates faced the racial attacks and highlighted that BYU’s athletic director, Tom Holmoe, is working to ensure his staff —whom Richardson said failed to take action during the game — is better equipped to handle such situations in the future.

The following match between Duke and BYU on Saturday, Aug. 27, was moved off the campus out of safety concerns. BYU released a statement on Aug. 28 condemning what took place.

The university also revealed that a fan identified by Duke to be yelling slurs was banned indefinitely from BYU sports events. It was later revealed that the fan was a student at Utah Valley University (UVU) sitting in the BYU fan section–which the school has eliminated for the rest of the tournament which concluded Saturday, Sept. 3.

In a BYU police report, Lt. George Besendorfer reported that the man who Duke identified does not appear to have been yelling the N-word nor any slurs in the surveillance footage they reviewed. The officer placed at the bench, Det. Sgt. Richard Laursen said he did not hear any racial slurs being made throughout the match and he did not see the UVU student who was banned use any negative language toward the Duke players. Laursen also said he believed the UVU student had Asperger’s Syndrome or autism.

Police spoke with the banned UVU student who said that he approached a Duke player who was a friend after the game and said that he only told players that they should not hit the net with the ball. Lt. Besendorfer noted that no fans have come forward to say they know who might have yelled the epithets and is encouraging people who were in the fan section to come forward by reaching out to the police dispatcher at 801-422-2222. Additionally, the school has asked for fans in attendance to provide any footage that may be helpful in narrowing down where the slurs may have come from.

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A completely paywalled Salt Lake Tribune story says people of color report there is racism on campus.

So Autism has found its way into this(SMH). There is no other evidence beyond the cops apparent opinion that the banned student is on the spectrum. If you want to go with cover-up angle implying the student actually said it but is too weird to be a racist could be a deflection. Sans cover up Richardson says she was the victim of slurs to the cops. The cop profiles the "weird" acting fan as autistic and throws him out. It is possible with all the racism talk it is ableism that is at play. Or maybe the previous sentences are me projecting.

Since the banned student is not from BYU, why the need for a cover-up?


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24 Sep 2022, 11:39 pm

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Richardson released a statement on Twitter confirming she and her Black teammates faced the racial attacks and highlighted that BYU’s athletic director, Tom Holmoe, is working to ensure his staff —whom Richardson said failed to take action during the game — is better equipped to handle such situations in the future.


So it seems all the black team mates heard racial attacks. So I don't understand why the police doesn't accept this is evidence? Is it because they are a group of black students?? I'm confused