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What kind of anarchist are you?
Libertarian socialist 25%  25%  [ 1 ]
Anarcho-capitalist 25%  25%  [ 1 ]
Individual anarchist 25%  25%  [ 1 ]
Mutualist 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Green anarchist 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Primitivist 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Others 25%  25%  [ 1 ]
Total votes : 4

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21 Nov 2022, 8:33 pm

I'm not an anarchist, but I am considering learning about the different anarchist worldviews and I will say I lean toward agreeing with some of their principles. I am more focused on equality of opportunity as more important than equal outcome, I am sorry but Social Justice Warrior-ism only is inherently concerned about the latter. I say that because some schools of anarchism seem to overlap with SJWism or have a particular emphasis on "woke".

I focus more on the idea of people being free from the current small number of rulers, I don't believe only a few people should have a monopoly on coercing the rest of us by government force. I am skeptical of very hierarchical corporations too.



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21 Nov 2022, 8:53 pm

I'm something of a would-be anarchist. I think most humans would be better off without depending on any kind of government and it would be better for the planet too. I sometimes like to think that having every government in the world collapse and forcing people to stand on their own two feet would be the best thing for us.

BUT on the downside i would be dead in an anarchy due to having mental illness and health issues in which i depend too much on medication.


I guess like communism anarchy sounds good on paper until suddenly its not



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22 Nov 2022, 9:36 pm

I wouldn't describe myself as an anarchist but I like a lot about the ideology, and anarchists are among the people I've most liked. They were very friendly people and I liked it when they subverted the efforts of control freaks and provided advice on how to do the same.

I fairly strongly distrust and dislike authority and am resistant to being pushed around by anybody. I might make an exception if I think somebody's expertise exceeds mine, but only for some particular task or subject. The idea that some person or group has globally excellent wisdom, knowledge and skill in all matters is laughable to me.

Having said that, I'm no significant threat to the big powers that be, and I don't think I ever was. Even if I could make sweeping changes to the status quo, I'd be mindful of the law of unintended consequences adversely affecting the world. And there's a side of me that could validly be described as lazy and selfish, just like practically everybody else, in that way at least.



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22 Nov 2022, 10:57 pm

Hollywood_Guy wrote:
I'm not an anarchist, but I am considering learning about the different anarchist worldviews and I will say I lean toward agreeing with some of their principles. I am more focused on equality of opportunity as more important than equal outcome, I am sorry but Social Justice Warrior-ism only is inherently concerned about the latter. I say that because some schools of anarchism seem to overlap with SJWism or have a particular emphasis on "woke".

I focus more on the idea of people being free from the current small number of rulers, I don't believe only a few people should have a monopoly on coercing the rest of us by government force. I am skeptical of very hierarchical corporations too.

I guess I am more of somewhat of a Christian anarchist in the sense that I would rather a church be a commune or a house church than a private tax-exempt non-profit religious corporation that happens to have a church building that the Christians meet in.I do have some other anarchist tendencies but I do believe we do need some degree of government in our lives.I just prefer a limited and tiny government but not no government if that makes sense.I would be more of a libertarian minarchist than actual anarcho-capitalist.



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23 Nov 2022, 5:04 pm



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23 Nov 2022, 7:49 pm

I think if you break the system you would need to build it again



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25 Nov 2022, 7:25 am

Anarchy has the fundamental issue that self-governance reaches its limits relatively quickly, and a larger organisational structure would have to be put in place to handle issues between communes, and soon, you're back at having a state.
And nation states are in fact not the worst ideas, I mean, they can redistribute resources and responsibilities -but as issues like global heating, pollution and tax evasion show, there would even need to be a global governing structure for issues that do not arise locally, and can not be fixed locally.
Anarcho-capitalism is of course the worst idea of all, and on reddit, ancaps are usually considered pedophiles, which may not always be the case, but who in his right mind would think it is a good idea to fracture society up into smaller, self governing societies, who make their own laws? - just look at the catholic church, if you need an example of a self-governing, self-selected society.


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25 Nov 2022, 7:37 am

Anarchy on a large scale is eminently impractical.



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25 Nov 2022, 7:48 am

I don't consider myself an anarchist, but ditching unjust draconian laws is a must.


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25 Nov 2022, 7:04 pm

Left anarchist. I try not to fixate on labels.
Getting rid of government just to replace it with more capitalism is just privatizing oppression and calling it free association.

Tolkien put it well:

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My political opinions lean more and more to Anarchy (philosophically understood, meaning abolition of control not whiskered men with bombs). The most improper job of any man is bossing other men. Not one in a million is fit for it, and least of all those who seek the opportunity.


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25 Nov 2022, 7:27 pm

shlaifu wrote:
Anarchy has the fundamental issue that self-governance reaches its limits relatively quickly, and a larger organisational structure would have to be put in place to handle issues between communes, and soon, you're back at having a state.
And nation states are in fact not the worst ideas, I mean, they can redistribute resources and responsibilities -but as issues like global heating, pollution and tax evasion show, there would even need to be a global governing structure for issues that do not arise locally, and can not be fixed locally.
Anarcho-capitalism is of course the worst idea of all, and on reddit, ancaps are usually considered pedophiles, which may not always be the case, but who in his right mind would think it is a good idea to fracture society up into smaller, self governing societies, who make their own laws? - just look at the catholic church, if you need an example of a self-governing, self-selected society.


I still believe that there needs to be some state, but the state can't be too big in scope. I like minarchism especially on the top level of government. Plenty of functions like welfare and social issues can be just as well handled by non-state agents. Humans are also not designed to all optimally live under the same rulers.



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25 Nov 2022, 7:47 pm

roronoa79 wrote:
Left anarchist. I try not to fixate on labels.
Getting rid of government just to replace it with more capitalism is just privatizing oppression and calling it free association.

Tolkien put it well:
J. R. R. Tolkien wrote:
My political opinions lean more and more to Anarchy (philosophically understood, meaning abolition of control not whiskered men with bombs). The most improper job of any man is bossing other men. Not one in a million is fit for it, and least of all those who seek the opportunity.


The issue is that people think that the monopolistic force of the state (especially large diverse empire ones like the United States) must be used to "correct" real or perceived oppressions. This is a genuine question, if there is no state or a very minimal state, who do you have in mind to "fix" oppression of people?

My own answer is that a local/regional voluntary body of some kind or other private individual or collective action. There will always be at least some groups of people that want to stick with their own tribe and there will always be the most trivial differences people will have anyway. That is nature and isn't necessarily oppression. Wanting to kill, destroy, or dictate another society is oppression.



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26 Nov 2022, 4:22 pm

I'm conservative theologically and anarchist politically. The Catholic Worker epitomises this and I am deeply inspired by its co founder Dorothy Day.