Excellent News: Britney Griner has been released

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11 Dec 2022, 9:23 pm

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I just would never go to countries with draconian laws.


I wouldn't go to any in "a pink fit". 8O



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11 Dec 2022, 9:42 pm

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On one hand I'm very glad that she doesn't have to spend life in a hellhole of a prison in Russia. I wouldn't wish such a thing on anybody.

But on the other hand I don't have that much sympathy for her. Even though she was using marijuana for medical purposes (I have no problem with that) she really should have known better than to bring it into a country where it's outlawed. Especially one as draconian in their laws as Russia.

There's been many stories in the news over time about Americans who travel abroad thinking they can break the laws in other countries and that their own country will simply bail them out of trouble. That bothers me.
I just would never go to countries with draconian laws. There was that guy who went to Qatar with pride gear. Like, why would he even want to go there???


Maybe suicidal or just plain stupid? :?



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12 Dec 2022, 7:44 pm

While I'm glad she's out, I still don't have any sympathy for her as she should have checked the laws first before going to Russia, or any other foreign country. In fact, I hope other US citizens learn from this to avoid all travel to Russia, and to check the laws of the foreign country you plan to visit.



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12 Dec 2022, 11:07 pm

adoylelb90815 wrote:
While I'm glad she's out, I still don't have any sympathy for her as she should have checked the laws first before going to Russia, or any other foreign country. In fact, I hope other US citizens learn from this to avoid all travel to Russia, and to check the laws of the foreign country you plan to visit.


I thought this was self-evident.
Even prescripted medication may not be allowed in some countries.
"Due Diligence" is required.



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13 Dec 2022, 2:05 am

adoylelb90815 wrote:
]I still don't have any sympathy for her as she should have checked the laws first before going to Russia, or any other foreign country.


She was prescribed medical marijuana by a doctor to treat knee pain. I am not sure if she travelled before to Russia with a cannabis vape but if she had then that would probably explain why she was carrying it without declaring it had cannabis.



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13 Dec 2022, 2:06 am

Pepe wrote:
adoylelb90815 wrote:
While I'm glad she's out, I still don't have any sympathy for her as she should have checked the laws first before going to Russia, or any other foreign country. In fact, I hope other US citizens learn from this to avoid all travel to Russia, and to check the laws of the foreign country you plan to visit.


I thought this was self-evident.
Even prescripted medication may not be allowed in some countries.
"Due Diligence" is required.


I imagine she has learned a valuable lesson. Don't play Russian roulette.



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13 Dec 2022, 9:19 am

cyberdad wrote:
Pepe wrote:
adoylelb90815 wrote:
While I'm glad she's out, I still don't have any sympathy for her as she should have checked the laws first before going to Russia, or any other foreign country. In fact, I hope other US citizens learn from this to avoid all travel to Russia, and to check the laws of the foreign country you plan to visit.


I thought this was self-evident.
Even prescripted medication may not be allowed in some countries.
"Due Diligence" is required.


I imagine she has learned a valuable lesson. Don't play Russian roulette.

:lol: but :(



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13 Dec 2022, 9:31 am

Meanwhile, Viktor Butt for whom she was exchanged, joined a party with a funny name: "Liberal Democratic Party of Russia".
It's cute how Russians maintain their tradition of naming things with the opposite of what these things are.
I admit the practice is more widespread - nevertheless, Kremlin mastered it centuries ago :D


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13 Dec 2022, 9:36 am

Rather like the Nazi party being "national socialists."



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13 Dec 2022, 9:37 am

At least the word "national" did have something to do with the truth.


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13 Dec 2022, 10:23 am

magz wrote:
Meanwhile, Viktor Butt for whom she was exchanged, joined a party with a funny name: "Liberal Democratic Party of Russia".
It's cute how Russians maintain their tradition of naming things with the opposite of what these things are.
I admit the practice is more widespread - nevertheless, Kremlin mastered it centuries ago :D


Yes. From the link they seem to be about restoring the Russian monarchy, but with 'constitutional limits', BUT not like the British constitutional monarchy (in which the king reigns, but democratically elected pols run the country)... they favor a Mussolini type dictator actually running the country. Niether liberal nor democratic. And apparently not even a party - they seem to be a loyal mouthpiece of the Kremlin and not a real opposition party.



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13 Dec 2022, 11:45 pm

cyberdad wrote:
adoylelb90815 wrote:
]I still don't have any sympathy for her as she should have checked the laws first before going to Russia, or any other foreign country.


She was prescribed medical marijuana by a doctor to treat knee pain. I am not sure if she travelled before to Russia with a cannabis vape but if she had then that would probably explain why she was carrying it without declaring it had cannabis.


Big mistake.
10 months' worth.



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13 Dec 2022, 11:48 pm

magz wrote:
Meanwhile, Viktor Butt for whom she was exchanged, joined a party with a funny name: "Liberal Democratic Party of Russia".
It's cute how Russians maintain their tradition of naming things with the opposite of what these things are.
I admit the practice is more widespread - nevertheless, Kremlin mastered it centuries ago :D


At least the title "The Ministry of Truth" in 1984 was accurate. :mrgreen:



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22 May 2023, 11:00 am

Brittney Griner participates in first WNBA preseason game since being detained in Russia

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On Friday night, Brittney Griner strolled down the sideline a few hours before the Phoenix Mercury played, offering hugs and high-fiving her teammates, coaches and opposing players.

Then it was a little stretching, a little shooting and a little agility work to prepare for a basketball game.

It was just like old times.

"I'm grateful to be here, that's for sure," Griner said. "I'm not going to take a day for granted."

Griner returned to game action for the first time since a nearly 10-month detainment in Russia on drug-related charges ended with a prisoner swap for arms dealer Viktor Bout in December. The seven-time All-Star, who missed the entire 2022 season because of the detainment, finished with 10 points and three rebounds in a WNBA preseason game against the Los Angeles Sparks.

The 6-foot-9 Griner looked good, especially considering the long layoff, casually throwing down a one-handed dunk during warmups. She stood with her teammates while the national anthem was played and received a loud ovation from the home crowd when she was introduced before tipoff.

"Hearing the national anthem, it definitely hit different," Griner said. "It's like when you go for the Olympics, you're sitting there, about to get gold put on your neck, the flags are going up and the anthem is playing, it just hits different.

"Being here today ... it means a lot."

Mercury coach Vanessa Nygaard said the anthem and introductions were emotional for the entire team.

Once the game started, the 32-year-old Griner immediately went to work, scoring on a turnaround jumper early in the first quarter. A few minutes later, she was fouled on another turnaround and sank both free throws.

She even had a cameo with the medical staff in the third quarter. Teammate Sophie Cunningham went down with a knee injury and Griner helped carry her off the court so she didn't have to put weight on her leg.

Griner said she was more rusty on the court than expected. But given the trials and emotions of the past 18 months, it was a pretty good night.

"Not where I want it to be, but on the right track," Griner said. "We're making the right moves."

Phoenix opens the regular season in Los Angeles next Friday.

The extra exposure from being detained in Russia for having vape cartridges containing cannabis oil in her luggage has given Griner a platform to advocate for other Americans being detained abroad. She was already an LGBTQ+ activist since publicly coming out in 2013 and became the first openly gay athlete to be sponsored by Nike.

During her first press conference since returning to the U.S., Griner said that she will no longer play basketball overseas during the WNBA offseason.

"I can say, for me, I'm never going overseas to play again unless I'm representing my country at the Olympics," Griner told reporters.

Griner announced in April that she is working with Bring Our Families Home, a campaign formed last year by the family members of American hostages and wrongful detainees held overseas. She said her team has been in contact with the family of Wall Street Journal reporter Evan Gershkovich, who is being detained in Russia on espionage charges.


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