increasing disorganization as we aspies age

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how many of you struggle more with organization as you age?
YES ME! :bounce: 50%  50%  [ 19 ]
NO! i'm still with it! :bounce: 16%  16%  [ 6 ]
i'm not so sure anymore. :shrug: 18%  18%  [ 7 ]
where's my soft serve? :chef: 16%  16%  [ 6 ]
Total votes : 38

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03 Jan 2023, 2:23 pm

^Allen Ginsberg, too!



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03 Jan 2023, 2:29 pm

whew thats a hard one to follow .....but this is my response to Krafties observations on Auntblabby ..edumication.
:o .... :o .... :o .... :o ... :o ... :o .... :o ... :o ... :o ... :o ... 8O

i be knowinn.. of Auntblabby fer some time about now , an i knowin she ain't got no account of no or Any educatonanizms , per "my Entire Existimizations"! ..... and i are willin to be testimizing on this .stuff ,
And I ain't attemptin to be castin , any typifications of Aspersionisms upon him. No how, No wayss. :shameonyou:


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04 Jan 2023, 1:42 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
^Allen Ginsberg, too!




SMiLes, Thanks For the "Allen Ginsberg"
Comparison kraftiekortie; Hehe, i Am Surely

Glad Though i Don't Have to Meet Any Target
Audience Expectations And Deal With All the Resistance

Now That Whitman And Ginsberg Surely Experienced From
Society For Expanding Their Original Creativity in Areas That

Were Not in That Era Considered Appropriate For Public Consumption

As in This Era i've Never Seen the Ability For As Much Creative Expression

Coming From Our United States As Long As You Don't Have to Do it For Money

or Position and Have to Be Worried About Being Canceled if You Don't Meet Someone's

Grade as It's Fairly Easy to Adapt to Online Community Standards That Most Definitely

Vary Depending on Platform Yet Extend Way Further in Certain Avenues Than Was Close

To Possible in Previous

Eras of Humankind,

In the Last Couple
of Centuries At Least;

Particularly, Coming Out
of Old European Victorian
Eras As Such. Anyway, it Makes

A Great Special Interest in Retirement
to Keep my Mind Sharp In Both Art and Reason

And Like my Psychiatrist Exclaimed in Worried Tone to
His Graduate Assistant Diagnosing me Easy With Asperger's

Syndrome on the First Visit in January of 2008, 15 Years Ago, Was Alexithymia is
Often Seen on the Autism Spectrum And When i Told Him With All the Dentist Drill-Like
Pain Then in my Right Eyes and Ear that i Didn't Have A Special Interest, He Told His Graduate

Assistant Right in Front
of me Like i Wasn't Even
Sitting There That "That's Not
Good, Asperger's Without a Special Interest,"

And Also With My Difficulty With Alexithymia then

Not Able to Describe the Feelings A Piano Piece i Composed
Brought to me, He Posed the Potential to His Graduate Assistant

That the Right Hemisphere of my Brain Was Basically Offline and Now
With the Research of Iain McGilchrist in Tow of What i Understand in How

i Moved From a 45 on the Simon Baron Cohen Autism Quotient AQ Scan

to 11 When i Started Writing Poetry And Developing Emotional Intelligence

Also Moving From the Mid 50's to Mid 90's Amazingly to me then as Well,

It Does Seem Like i Opened Up A Whole New Continent of Human Potential

In Right Hemisphere Ways of Mind in Social-Empathic-Emotional-Sensory Real
Artistic and Spiritual Intelligences That i Never Really Mastered Before in Life;

And It's True, i Literally

Have a Prescription For
Moving Meditation of Public Dance

As Science Shows It is Effective to Regulate
Emotions And Integrate Senses And Increase

Cognitive Executive Functioning in Terms of Laser
Focus and Greater Attention Span; And Yes, Both Short
Term Working Memory and Long Term Memory Retrieval As Well;

i Can Do All Activities in Life With Greater Focus, Attention Span, Short
Term Working Memory, and Long Term Memory Retrieval Than Ever Before

As the Record of What i Do Empirically Speaking Surely Shows in an Irrefutable Way;

my Doctor Also Considered Poetry An Effective Therapy Still to Emotionally Regulate

And Sensory Integrate As Well As Basic Cognitive Behavioral Therapy in an Attempt

To Bring my Emotions and A Memory of if i Ever Smiled Before, Totally Failed Along

With Every Other Drug They Tried on me or Other Talk Therapy; The Answers for me

At Least Were in Song of
Poetry Free Verse and Free
Dance In Flow of Moving Mediation

As Well; Yes, Enhancing All Potentials in
Ways i Never Understood i Had the Potential
To Do Earlier in Life With Intelligences In New
Ways i Had no Idea or Feeling or Sense Even Existed Then;

Far Beyond Any Potential Fame and Fortune and Money is no Issue anyway now;

And i've Had Many People in my Metro Area Come Up to me And Ask me if i realize

How Famous And Living Legend i am Among the General Populace of Around 600,000
Folks in the Overall Pensacola Metropolitan Area And Honestly That's Always Been
No Concern to me

As Really

Feeling the
Feeling of A Smile
And Bringing those

Smiles to Others in
Real FlesH and Blood Life

Was A Total Impossibility Living
With A Total of 19 Medical Disorders
Shut-in my Bedroom Mostly For 66 Months

In Real Living Dead Hell in Life Within; So Yeah,

For me It's All A Matter of Perspective; A SMile is
Reward Enough Even if i'm the Only one Able to FeeL iT;

Yet True, i've Brought More Smiles to Others in 17,677 Miles
of Dance As of the End of Tonight in Walmart For the Whole
Metro area Now in 112 Months that i Could Possibly Ever Count

As the Public Dance Has been Spread Out Among Video Voyeurs

in Social Media By Literally Hundreds Perhaps Thousands of Volunteers

in the Last 112 Months of Literally Several Thousand Public Dance Events...

It's 'A Wonderful

Life;' i Feel Fortunate

to Have Survived the Real
Assessed Suicide Disease,
Type Two Trigeminal Neuralgia,
No Drug Would Touch for 66 Months;
Yes, Wake to Sleep Yes Literally Assessed
As Worst than the Real Torture of Crucifixion

That is About As Hard For Folks To Wrap Their Minds
Around as 11.2 MiLLioN Words of Free Verse Poetry in
A Real "SonG oF mY SoUL" iN 112 Months Now; And Honestly

It's All About
That Perspective
Of the Hell of Not
Being Able Remember
if i Ever Felt A Smile Before;

Versus Actually Feeling A Smile
in the Perspective That A Human
SMiLe in The Genuine And True Feeling

of that SMiLe is Surely Heaven Compared

to the Impossibility of Having that Memory of Ever
Even Feeling A Smile in A Living Dead HeLL ON EartH

That Is Even A Worse Hell than the-So-Called Otherwise
Assessed Worst Physical Pain Known to Humankind; It's True

There Are Feelings
And Senses of Heaven
Within Ineffable Beyond

All Descriptions in Words;

Same Applies to Hell Within
On Earth too; i Surely Wouldn't

Wish that On Any Part of Existence Now;

As Yes, There Are Surely Some Experiences
In Life Where the Potential of Death is Heaven in Hell;

Yet It's No Myth;

It's A Real Deal;

No Ifs, Ands, Or
Buts For Folks Who
Actually Visit The Other
Side of HeaveN ON EartH
With A Feeling of A Smile for Real;

Yet of Course, only in my Very Tiny View of Existence
With
SMiLes,
Now Again For Real..:)



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04 Jan 2023, 3:49 am

Fenn wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
i'm not edumacated so i had no idea that i'd been writing sonnets this whole time! :o


Of course you ARE edumacated. Life is an education (I mean “edumacation”).

edumacated in the school of hard knocks. :nerdy: :skull:



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04 Jan 2023, 8:45 pm

Jakki wrote:
whew thats a hard one to follow .....but this is my response to Krafties observations on Auntblabby ..edumication.
:o .... :o .... :o .... :o ... :o ... :o .... :o ... :o ... :o ... :o ... 8O

i be knowinn.. of Auntblabby fer some time about now , an i knowin she ain't got no account of no or Any educatonanizms , per "my Entire Existimizations"! ..... and i are willin to be testimizing on this .stuff ,
And I ain't attemptin to be castin , any typifications of Aspersionisms upon him. No how, No wayss. :shameonyou:

i admire your alliterative aspirations per aspie.



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04 Jan 2023, 8:52 pm

I believe Asperger's gets worse with age. Part of the aging process itself. A kid can hop fences, and old man can only rest on one thinking about his bad hip...

While Aspies struggle with executive functioning (and other things), the youthful Aspie can manage it better than the older Aspie. Not as well as an NT, but better than an elderly Aspie. Functioning starts deteriorating with age, when the effects of autism really start to show.

Anything you're good at when you're young gets harder with age. Anything your struggle with when young gets even more strugglesome with age.

Yes, you read right...strugglesome.



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04 Jan 2023, 9:16 pm

^^^i get what you're saying, it resonates with me.



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04 Jan 2023, 10:03 pm

ezbzbfcg2 wrote:
I believe Asperger's gets worse with age. Part of the aging process itself. A kid can hop fences, and old man can only rest on one thinking about his bad hip...

While Aspies struggle with executive functioning (and other things), the youthful Aspie can manage it better than the older Aspie. Not as well as an NT, but better than an elderly Aspie. Functioning starts deteriorating with age, when the effects of autism really start to show.

Anything you're good at when you're young gets harder with age. Anything your struggle with when young gets even more strugglesome with age.

Yes, you read right...strugglesome.

Makes sense with aging with those who's on going to their 30s and beyond.

Not so much when it's starting at teenage years to barely 20s.


But the logic's the same when struggling with underlying health issues and how one manages to function with it.


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04 Jan 2023, 11:15 pm

Not sure that it's common for ASD itself to get worse with age though. Maybe it's just that any deterioration with age simply adds to the problems of life?



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04 Jan 2023, 11:56 pm

everything 'cept for one thing gets harder as we age.



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05 Jan 2023, 1:32 am

auntblabby wrote:
everything 'cept for one thing gets harder as we age.

What's that? Don't explain if it's rude.



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07 Jan 2023, 5:28 pm

ToughDiamond wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
everything 'cept for one thing gets harder as we age.

What's that? Don't explain if it's rude.


GOOD NEWS: Only half the aging population has to worry about that.

BAD NEWS: You and I and the OP are in that demographic! (hint-hint)

- - - -
I wanted to say that the aging process can be brutal. And I'm not even THAT old, however, when I was younger I used to notice that aging folks (presumably NT) had a really hard time with acknowledging their limitations that came with age.

I don't want to be like that. I'm noticing limitations now that weren't an issue when I was even a few years younger. Mainly short-term memory problems and not as quickly analytical as I once prided myself on being. It sucks, but it's probably age-related.

If that's the case, then I'd wager that anything I struggle with now will be even harder to manage as I get older.



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07 Jan 2023, 9:23 pm

the only thing that has helped my physically [not so much mentally in terms of fixing my addlements] is tesla coil radiation. i'm afraid there's no real fix for disorganization other than perhaps Strattera.



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08 Jan 2023, 2:15 am

I never really had the organizational ASD traits because of my upbringing. I come from a lazy family.



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08 Jan 2023, 2:17 am

my family was only moderately organized. my mom was perhaps the most organized among us, tied with my oldest brother.



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08 Jan 2023, 8:53 am

It seems to me that the symptoms of my Autism in general are getting worse as I get older, with organisational ability being just one of the difficulties.

Just one example is trying to manage my grocery shopping at the supermarkets. It has seemed that I need to go on Sundays to have fresh food in for the coming work week, but due to the late and limited opening hours the UK has on Sundays the supermarkets are busy, noisy, and stressful as hell by the time they open at 11 am and even getting there as early as possible is still a nightmare.

If I'd been better organised I would have figured out long ago that I can go on Friday evenings or something like that, when they would be much less busy. And then on Sundays I would only need to get 1 or 2 items like sandwiches which have a very short shelf life.

Housework? Oh dear! I was aiming to do hoovering once a month, which seemed like a realistic target and was better than my previous frequency of never or extremely rarely. I'm struggling to get that done even once a month. It's not logical. If i just did one area at a time it would only take 10-15 minutes. I don't know why I still struggle with it so much. I do manage to wash the dishes and do a clothes wash 99% of the time every Sunday, unless something has gone badly not to plan for some reason.

Home improvements? Takes me years to get anything started or done.

I do think I likely have significant traits of ADHD on top which only makes all the above even more difficult.

I'm usually pretty mentally resilient and strong but sometimes all of this does get to me. The difficulty of it all.