Photo ID is now needed for UK elections

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Indeed, I looked at BBC UK and nothing about it.

The problem is not the requirement of a photo ID to vote - that's common around the world - but making such change without sufficiently informing the population that used to vote without it.

In addition, older people are clearly advantaged in this legislation - which suggests favoring certain electorate.

That is not what fair elections are supposed to be.

That is not how our society functions, and so is not how our elections should function

Seems like it's hard for you to understand, or maybe you've missed the big picture.

Are you saying that all requirements should be determined by the lowest common denominator?

I totally agree that they should announce it, but I disagree that identification as a concept is politically biased.

Quite true. It's the middle of the 21st century and you still haven't overthrown your monarch.

Identification as concept can be politically biased depending on how the society in question uses identification and how much access people have to it

Well, together with not announcing the change - certain people (60+) will be much more likely to have a valid photo ID at the moment of voting despite not expecting to need it.
And it just "accidentally" happens that older people support the ruling party much more than younger people.
https://www.ukonward.com/data/age-profi ... intention/
This is something extremely fishy. I'd even say, it's a subtle fraud attempt.

If you were still in EU, the Commission would have got mad.

Right! You've got it! The perfect explanation!

A nice explanation from the London School of Economics

https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/politicsandpolicy/no-id-no-vote-voter-id-comes-to-great-britain/

Finishing with:

"In this context, rushing through the introduction of voter ID in Great Britain is more than just problematic, it is indicative of an alarming pattern of recent democratic backsliding"

Yes. As the first link I posted in my first post showed, the list of valid photo IDs are mostly ones that the over 60s will have.

I think I have been repeating myself over and over on this thread but you've managed to translate so people understand

I thought most older people (over 60) voted labour. In the last general election the results showed that the most labour votes were from the under 30s and the over 60s. I always vote labour and always will.

Older people have always voted very heavily in favour of the Tories

2019 pushed that even further so it was the first election where all working age category of voters voted majority for Labour, and retired age category were the only group who voted Tory

I don’t get it.

What’s so hard about getting photo ID especially once you are age of majority, and why should people be allowed to vote without proving who they are?

How do young people get into pubs, get healthcare services, drive a car, leave the country, go to school, buy alcohol / smokes, or anything else without ID?

We don't have a history of needing ID to vote (and have no voter fraud going on either) and have no national iD cards either. We have a system that already works safely for voting without requiring ID

Don't need ID for healthcare here. Pubs are pretty relaxed about ID, and if you do need to show it as someone around 18 years old then the chances are your ID is one the Conservative Party say they won't accept for voting

Like student's card or university ID.

We do have national ID mandatory for everyone over 18 and only a national ID or a passport is valid for voting - but it's been like that since the beginning of democracy here or longer, so no problem with it.

The way they're making the change in UK is a problem, not the change itself.

I’m in the liquor store right now. They photo ID anyone who looks under 25.

Drinking age 18 or 19 here.

It's much more relaxed in many places in Europe.