First death sentence carried out against openly trans person

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05 Jan 2023, 10:48 am

/\Penetration with an object or any body part, performing a sex act without consent when someone is incapacitated.
Some women are stronger than others.


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05 Jan 2023, 10:48 am

Misslizard wrote:
/\Penetration with an object or any body part, performing a sex act without consent when someone is incapacitated.
Some women are stronger than others.


Do we know what body part was used in that crime? I have not looked into it.


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05 Jan 2023, 10:57 am

MissMary227 wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
/\Penetration with an object or any body part, performing a sex act without consent when someone is incapacitated.
Some women are stronger than others.


Do we know what body part was used in that crime? I have not looked into it.

No idea.


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05 Jan 2023, 1:05 pm

In NY State, if somebody doesn’t technically “rape” someone (i.e., force someone to submit to penile sexual intercourse), one could, instead, be charged with “criminal sex act,” which provides the same penalties as “rape,” if someone, say forces a plunger up an anus or vagina.



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05 Jan 2023, 1:31 pm

I'm simply assuming it was anatomically possible at the time of the crime. Just because a person identifies as transgendered not not automatically mean a person has been surgically altered.

Regardless, I take issue with the person's statement. "good", "loving", "caring" people do not rape and murder.



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05 Jan 2023, 2:07 pm

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/nice

Kind, people who are kind do not rape or murder.


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05 Jan 2023, 10:03 pm

DanielW wrote:
I'm simply assuming it was anatomically possible at the time of the crime. Just because a person identifies as transgendered not not automatically mean a person has been surgically altered.

Regardless, I take issue with the person's statement. "good", "loving", "caring" people do not rape and murder.

Once they rape or murder they are no longer good , loving or caring.Maybe they once were.
Who ever heard of a caring murderer?
Here, let me stab you gently and with love.Nope.


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05 Jan 2023, 10:11 pm

Alright let's quit with this, 'is it even possible for a woman to rape' crap. If a woman forces sexual acts on someone who doesn't want it then that is still rape or at least sexual assault to the same level as rape, (if one defines rape specifically as forcing penetration on someone). But I think for general speak forcing sexual activities on someone who doesn't want it is rape regardless of the gender of the perpetrator.

Other than that I don't agree with this person getting the death penalty, not because they are trans but because I just don't agree with the death penalty.


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05 Jan 2023, 10:22 pm

Trans folks deserve the honor just as much as do the rest of us. :D



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05 Jan 2023, 11:25 pm

MissMary227 wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
/\Penetration with an object or any body part, performing a sex act without consent when someone is incapacitated.
Some women are stronger than others.


Do we know what body part was used in that crime? I have not looked into it.


Presumably, she used her penis.



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05 Jan 2023, 11:28 pm

Misslizard wrote:
DanielW wrote:
I'm simply assuming it was anatomically possible at the time of the crime. Just because a person identifies as transgendered not not automatically mean a person has been surgically altered.

Regardless, I take issue with the person's statement. "good", "loving", "caring" people do not rape and murder.

Once they rape or murder they are no longer good , loving or caring.Maybe they once were.
Who ever heard of a caring murderer?
Here, let me stab you gently and with love.Nope.


No mention of psychosis being involved.



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05 Jan 2023, 11:32 pm

goldfish21 wrote:
" There are no known previous cases in which an openly transgender person was executed, according to the anti-execution Death Penalty Information Center."

I know they mean in prison by the government, but still, wtf.. trans people get executed all the time - it's called murder and they're victims at far higher rates than the general population.



THIS SO MUCH


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05 Jan 2023, 11:50 pm

Pepe wrote:
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Misslizard wrote:
/\Penetration with an object or any body part, performing a sex act without consent when someone is incapacitated.
Some women are stronger than others.


Do we know what body part was used in that crime? I have not looked into it.


Presumably, she used her penis.


Ahh, then 'she' is a 'he' since girls do not have penises.

But I understand that we live in a culture that wants to twist the truth:

Gender Gaslighting. If you call it what it is you are bullied and ridiculed. If you call it what it isn't you are applauded and approved.

I don't have a problem referring to an alter as a different gender because there is an unconscious drive there that is out of touch with reality. But I prefer to refer to an overall person's gender according to their birthday suit with the associated pronouns.


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05 Jan 2023, 11:56 pm

MissMary227 wrote:
Pepe wrote:
MissMary227 wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
/\Penetration with an object or any body part, performing a sex act without consent when someone is incapacitated.
Some women are stronger than others.


Do we know what body part was used in that crime? I have not looked into it.


Presumably, she used her penis.


Ahh, then 'she' is a 'he' since girls do not have penises.


Pre-op TRANS women do have a penis. 8)