My (39M) father used to sh*t on the floor

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stratozyck
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21 Jan 2023, 9:45 am

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That's really unusual. My (66F) father has never shat on the floor.


Yeah neither has mine and I myself try to avoid sh*****g all over the floor whenever possible.

Even my tenant who was the worst the letting agents seen in years didn't s**t on the floor, rather he pissed on the floor instead which is easier to clean.

OP, did nobody ever critical of the fact he had the hygiene levels similar of baby born to a drug addict?


Hah well, I am sure people did. I know his mother had to cut his nose hairs for him every time we visited because he had like a second hairdo coming out of his nose.

He just thought he was above it. He thought cleaning was beneath him. In his ego, he should have others do it.



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21 Jan 2023, 9:48 am

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OP: I feel for you, making sense of a whole life growing up with a parent with a personality disorder.
It has always been his problem and it has never been your problem.
That's what I learned in my therapy. Sometimes it helps put a disordered person in the right place and establish healthy relationship with them. Sometimes it's impossible and only no contact helps. But either way - you are never responsible for your father's sick behaviors. They are his problem. You are responsible for your own life.
You have your own life and your own kids to care about. And I'm glad you don't carry on your father's disorder. That's great and gives a lot of hope for your children :heart:



Yeah I feel guilty a lot for not talking to him. I knew when I punctured his ego there was no going back. But, I've told myself that as an adult we aren't required to have people in our lives that make us feel bad. It sucks that kids have to go through that.

I wish there were more for kids that tell authorities they don't want to be raised by a parent. I remember when I was about 8 or so I overheard a neighbor talking to another neighbor about how "someone ought to call CPS" on my dad. But no one ever did anything. I think even had CPS been called, nothing would have come of it.

I have four kids now and I channel the emotions into being a better parent to them.



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21 Jan 2023, 9:51 am

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Sorry you had to go through that crap (no pun intended).

But think of where you are now, despite the way your dad treated you.

My mother, like I said above, was treated badly, too. But she made out well in life, and lived to be 88 years old.


Thanks yeah I think a lot of people have it bad and we live in a unique era in history where good material circumstances and low levels of PTSD are the norm.

I think people for most of human history had to deal with a lot more abuse from people and from nature. The norm for them was probably constant PTSD.



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21 Jan 2023, 10:20 am

This post has me thinking I should write more of this down - the way my father is.

I could write a book and make a movie out of it. People would watch it. I would have to do it after he dies, then I'd feel OK with sharing the details. Some other fun facts:

- He dressed up in womens clothes in private and read crossdressing porn. It didn't have pictures, it was these little 20-30 page stories he bought somewhere. This was the 1980s-1990s so it internet wasn't as big of a thing. Every night after work he'd go into his little side room and shut the door. We found his collection of butt plugs when we were younger. Of course, he hates LGBT people and goes on rants about it in public.

- I would call my dad an "incel" in today's terminology. Senior year of High School, I took physics and the teacher, Mrs Ormond, used to work with my father. On the first day of class, when she saw my last name she visibly looked shaken. She told me she used to work with my father. By this point in my life I had him more or less figured out and immediately imagined how awful it must have been to work with him, especially as a woman.

I told her "hey, I am sorry for that. I am not like my father." She seem immediately relieved. When I told my father that I had her as a teacher, the first thing he said was, "she quit and became a teacher because she was a crappy scientist."

- While he was racist as well, I would call him more "racist against the human race." I would say the only person he liked was himself, but I don't even think thats true. I think his ego created an alternate version of himself that he thought was the best in the world. He would constantly talk jealously about rich guys like Bill Gates and anyone that was more successful than him because it challenged his ego.

- Despite hiring an illegal immigrant to be our nanny for a few years, he wants all illegal immigrants kicked out.

- He thought Western women were too "materialistic" because basically they didn't want him. He thought Asian women were superior for reasons I don't understand.

He eventually remarried to a Chinese "mail order bride" in the 1990s. My younger brother was in 5th grade when it happened and I was in 8th grade. That is when I started to rebel. He metaphorically threw a dart on the map of China and brought home this strange woman that smelled awful and had weird habits to live with us. She spit every morning and it was disgusting (she did this for like 15 mins every morning and you could hear it throughout the house, it sounded like she was trying to cough her lungs out intentionally).

I started going through my dad's letters to his Chinese Pen pals before this and in the letters. I am not a snoop but I got some seriously red flags and I felt we needed to be prepared for what was coming. He was claiming to be a multimillionaire to them. I guess in a "net present value of expected future earnings" sense, it was true. But it wasn't at the time. Anyways, I also went through her letters and she was writing to a Chinese guy in Atlanta saying she was going to leave my dad after the required time for residency.

She bought a kids bike and rode it around town (!) because she didn't have a car for a while. She once drove by my younger brothers elementary school while they were doing some gym exercise and she waved at him while riding this kids bike and yelling "hello Jeremy!" Every kid says they are embarrassed of their parents, other people were embarrassed for us.

I presented the evidence to my father and he stayed with her for 3 more years before in fact, she finally left him to move to Atlanta. She was ugly as heck. I mean, I have never met a woman uglier. She smelled like horses ass too.

He remarried to another one several years later. She is nice but is a hoarder. So, one of the last times I visited, I showed up with a UHAUL and tried to fill it with junk to take to a dump. Halfway there, I get a call from my dad telling me to come back and unload it. This was like broken stuff that was piled up in the garage. It was piled up so much there was barely enough room for a car anymore and you had to crawl over it to get to things.

The house is so piled up with junk that in the room he used to read porn in, there is very little room left to do anything. She's got junk piled up there she bought at yard sales and stuff like that.

I expect the final "F you" will be when he dies and we have to go over there and clear out a junked house and what inheritance there is ends up with her going back China. She hasn't adjusted at all to the US and while she is nice I definitely get the feeling she sees us all as spoiled rich brats.

- My father was a major mommas boy until she died in about 15 years ago. Their relationship was so strong that his other siblings distanced themselves from both. His mother was kindof an awful person at times but could be nice. They lived across the street from my mother's parents (how my dad met my mom - he was there at the right time in her life after she left a convent and didn't know what to do).

My dad's mother trash talked them all the time and they did not talk to each other. It was like the Berlin wall between these two houses that were literally across the street from each other. Anytime we visited each grandparent would refer to the other as "across the street."

Before my dad's mother died, she seemed to apologize to me in a phone call about a lot of things. She was the one that encouraged him to get an illegal immigrant to take care of us and she was the one that encouraged him to get a Chinese bride. I think she also was realizing my father was nuttier than she expected. She died a few weeks later unexpectedly.

While she was mean, she cared for my aunt who had a serious disability (Rett's Syndrome, requires lifelong care). So, I give her more of a pass.

- What really soured my relationship with my father is the 2nd Gulf War. I opposed it and my father can't take political disagreement. His method of arguing with people is to call them stupid. Its childish. So, I became more democrat leaning over my 20s and behind my back he was trashing me to my brothers. He started calling me an "Ivory Tower intellectual" despite the fact that my degree comes from that Ivory Tower powerhouse of Univ of Alabama. His degree is from Notre Dame.

The three "toxic males" on that side of the family were my father, my uncle, and my cousin. When my cousin found out I opposed the 2nd Gulf war, he said to me on a phone call that "In a proper country, people like you would be dealt with." All three of them dealt with disagreement by going to personal insults.

My cousin is a cop now by the way. My uncle is a semi known author of pop history books. He's not top tier level, but if you put my last name (won't say it) into Amazon you get his books. Its these little war books with an illustrator drawing pictures. My uncle is a royal a hole as well and nutty, but I am pretty sure he is potty trained.



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21 Jan 2023, 1:44 pm

It's difficult to know what to say in response.

It is amazing how crazy someone can be :)



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21 Jan 2023, 5:53 pm

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He was a rocket scientist and his ego was sky high. He didn't bathe regularly and thought people should worship him for how intelligent he was.

He sounds like the dad in Cat's Cradle by Kurt Vonnegut. He was a nuclear physicist who was a terrible father and didn't function very well for anything other than being a scientist.


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23 Jan 2023, 5:40 pm

RetroGamer87 wrote:
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He was a rocket scientist and his ego was sky high. He didn't bathe regularly and thought people should worship him for how intelligent he was.

He sounds like the dad in Cat's Cradle by Kurt Vonnegut. He was a nuclear physicist who was a terrible father and didn't function very well for anything other than being a scientist.


I read that book a long time ago, but yeah that is a pretty good description.

However, I would add that being good at most jobs requires being good with coworkers. My dad sees everything as a way to prove to others that he is the smartest person in the room.

When I was 22 I went to a job fair in my hometown and I had a nametag on with my last name. I walked by this one booth and this one dude goes, "Is your dad Steve F___?" I said yeah, and he goes, "tell your dad I said he's an a**hole."

I wasn't even threatened or offended. I can only imagine what my dad said to him.