LA mass shooting suspect kills 10 near Lunar New Year fest

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22 Jan 2023, 10:44 am

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A gunman killed 10 people and wounded 10 others at a Los Angeles-area ballroom dance club following a Lunar New Year celebration, setting off a manhunt for the suspect in the fifth mass killing in the U.S. this month.

Capt. Andrew Meyer of the Los Angeles Sheriff’s Department said Sunday that the wounded were taken to hospitals and their conditions range from stable to critical. He said the 10 people died at the scene in the city of Monterey Park.

Meyer said people were “pouring out of the location screaming” when officers arrived at around 10:30 p.m. Saturday. He said officers then went into the ballroom and found victims as firefighters treated the wounded.

Meyer gave no description of the male suspect or the weapon he used, or why police gave no information on the shooting for hours while the shooter apparently remained on the run. He also said police were investigating another incident in the nearby city of Alhambra, where a similar business, the Lai Lai Ballroom, had police tape across its front door and an officer guarding it. Detectives could be seen working near the open back door, where a woman wearing gloves was carefully examining the door handle as though checking for prints. Officials gave no details on what had happened and it was unclear if this was the incident investigators were examining to see if there was a connection to the Monterey Park shooting.

The shooting happened in the heart of downtown Monterey Park where red lanterns decorated the streets for the Lunar New Year festivities. A police car was parked near a large banner that proclaimed: “Happy Year of the Rabbit!”

The Lunar New Year celebration in Monterey Park is one of California’s largest and had attracted tens of thousands throughout the day. Most of the residents of Monterey Park, a city of about 60,000 people that sits at the eastern edge of Los Angeles, are Asian immigrants from China or first-generation Asian Americans.

Two days of festivities, which have been attended by as many as 100,000 people in past years, were planned. But officials canceled Sunday’s events following the shooting.

The tragedy marked not just the fifth mass killing in the U.S. since the start of the year but also is the deadliest since May 24, 2022 - when 21 people were killed in a school in Uvalde, Texas, according to The Associated Press/USA Today database on mass killings in the U.S.

The database also shows that 2022 was also one of the worst years ever in terms of mass killings, with 42 such attacks - the second-highest number since the creation of the tracker in 2006. The database defines a mass killing as four people killed not including the perpetrator.

The White House said that President Joe Biden was briefed on the situation by Homeland Security Adviser Elizabeth Sherwood-Randall.

“The President has been briefed by the Homeland Security Advisor on the mass shooting in Monterey Park. He directed her to make sure that the FBI is providing full support to local authorities, and to update him regularly today as more details are known.”

Attorney General Merrick Garland was also briefed, Justice Department spokesperson Dena Iverson said.

The shooting occurred at Star Ballroom Dance Studio, a few blocks from city hall on Monterey Park’s main thoroughfare of Garvey Avenue, which is dotted with strip malls full of small businesses whose signs are in both English and Chinese. Cantonese and Mandarin are both widely spoken, Chinese holidays are celebrated, and Chinese films are screened regularly in the city.

The business offered dance lessons from Tango to Rumba to the Fox Trot, and rented its space for events. On Saturday, its website said it was hosting an event called “Star Night” from 8 p.m. to 11:30 p.m.


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22 Jan 2023, 4:17 pm

I'm keeping up with that on MSNBC as I write this.


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22 Jan 2023, 10:20 pm

Monterey Park mass shooting: Suspected gunman identified, confirmed dead by LASD

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The suspect in a shooting in Monterey Park, California, that left 10 dead and another 10 wounded has died, Los Angeles County Sheriff Robert Luna said Sunday. The suspect, identified as 72-year-old Huu Can Tran, died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound, Luna said.

Los Angeles Sheriff Robert Luna said earlier Sunday that law enforcement was dealing with a "barricaded suspect situation" in the Torrance neighborhood. Officers pulled over a white van at 10:20 a.m., local time Sunday, Luna said. The van then pulled into a shopping center parking lot, and police heard a single gunshot from inside the vehicle, according to Luna. Officers, who were seen wearing tactical gear and armor, approached the van at 12:52 p.m. and found the suspect dead.

A handgun was recovered from inside the van, Luna said.

Police said there are no outstanding suspects and they are still not clear on a motive.

Luna said five men and five women were killed and another 10 wounded in the shooting at the Star Ballroom Dance Studio in Monterey Park late Saturday night. Then, 20 to 30 minutes later, a man with a gun entered the Lai Lai Ballroom in nearby Alhambra.

Luna said a magazine-fed semi automatic assault pistol with extended large capacity magazine was recovered from the Alhambra location. He said that he believes that type of weapon is not legal in California, but that more "research" was needed.

"He walked in there with a firearm and some individuals wrestled the firearm away from him, and that individual took off," Luna said earlier Sunday.

The dramatic scene involving the white van was captured overhead by news helicopters, which showed two armored vehicles positioned in front of and behind the vehicle, with officers in fatigues and body armor at the rear of one of the police vehicles.


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23 Jan 2023, 12:39 am

72 yr old jealous man that killed cuz he wasnt invited to dancing like his wife and possibly domestic dispute too

Case closed , as i suspected not hate crime



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23 Jan 2023, 11:34 am

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72 yr old jealous man that killed cuz he wasnt invited to dancing like his wife and possibly domestic dispute too

Case closed , as i suspected not hate crime



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What happened at the second location in Alhambra?
Around 20 minutes after the first shooting, investigators believe Tran then travelled to a second dance studio in the neighbouring city of Alhambra.

There, a heroic worker managed to wrestle the semiautomatic assault pistol from the suspect as he attempted to carry out a second attack.

Surveillance footage captured the terrifying moment 26-year-old Brandon Tsay, a 26-year-old coder whose family runs the Lai Lai Ballroom, bravely wrestled the gun away from Tran.

Mr Tsay told the New York Times that he was in the office off the lobby watching the ballroom when he heard the front doors swing close and a noise that sounded like metal hitting metal.

At that moment, he said he turned around to see the suspect pointing a gun at him.

Mr Tsay described the suspect as “menacing” saying: “He was looking at me and looking around, not hiding that he was trying to do harm.” The two men got into a struggle before the 26-year-old managed to disarm the gunman.

Tran fled the scene – with no one at that second studio injured.

Huu Can Tran: Everything we know about the suspect
Authorities believe Huu Can Tran, 72, acted alone and are not seeking anyone else in connection to the mass shooting.

The motive for the massacre remains unclear.

However, acquaintances have revealed that Tran used to be a regular at the Star Ballroom Dance Studio and once complained that the instructors were saying “evil things” about him.

He also met his former wife at the studio, it has been revealed.

One friend, who knew Tran in the late 2000s and early 2010s when they both attended the studio, said that Tran was “hostile to a lot of people” at the club.

The friend, who did not want to be named, told CNN that the suspect often complained to him that he thought the dance instructors didn’t like him and said “evil things about him”.

At the time, Tran lived around a five-minute drive from the club and would visit it almost every night, he said.

The two friends hadn’t seen each other in years before Saturday’s shooting, he said.

Now, he said he is “totally shocked” to learn that he was allegedly responsible for the mass shooting as he voiced fears that some of his friends may be among the victims.

Tran’s former wife, who also did not want to be named, told CNN that they first met at the Star Ballroom around two decades ago.

At the time, Tran was running informal dance lessons at the club and offered to give her free lessons, she said.

The pair wed soon after. Tran’s former wife said that the accused mass shooter was never physically violent with her but that he did have a short temper, especially if she missed a step while dancing with him.

She told the network that she felt that Tran then lost interest in her and he filed for divorce in 2005.

It is not clear if Tran was still attending the dance studio in the run-up to the mass shooting.

Investigators are now looking into Tran’s criminal and mental health history for clues as to what led to Saturday’s massacre.

In the aftermath of the shooting, law enforcement said that it was “too early” to determine if it was racially motivated, but told reporters “we will look at every angle as far as whether it’s a hate crime or not”.

“Everything’s on the table,” Mr Luna said of the ongoing investigation during a press conference prior to tracking down the suspect on Sunday.

“But, who walks into a dance hall and guns down 20 people?”

City supervisor Hilda Solis confirmed that the victims were “of AAPI descent,” but said she could not say with certainty that the shooting was the result of a hate crime. “We’re waiting to see what our law enforcement and FBI have to say,” she told ABC 7.

Coroner's office names two victims
The Los Angeles County Coroner’s office has released the names of two of the ten victims of the Monterey Park shooting on Saturday night.

Both were women in their 60s — My Nhan, 65, and Lilan Li, 63.

The other victims are three other women and five men, nine of whom are in their 60s and 70s and one of whom was aged in her 50s, officials have said.

Unofficially, friends identified the first victim as the owner of the ballroom studio.


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23 Jan 2023, 1:36 pm

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A gunman killed 10 people and wounded 10 others at a Los Angeles-area ballroom dance club following a Lunar New Year celebration, setting off a manhunt for the suspect in the fifth mass killing in the U.S. this month.

Capt. Andrew Meyer of the Los Angeles Sheriff’s Department said Sunday that the wounded were taken to hospitals and their conditions range from stable to critical. He said the 10 people died at the scene in the city of Monterey Park.

Meyer said people were “pouring out of the location screaming” when officers arrived at around 10:30 p.m. Saturday. He said officers then went into the ballroom and found victims as firefighters treated the wounded.

Meyer gave no description of the male suspect or the weapon he used, or why police gave no information on the shooting for hours while the shooter apparently remained on the run. He also said police were investigating another incident in the nearby city of Alhambra, where a similar business, the Lai Lai Ballroom, had police tape across its front door and an officer guarding it. Detectives could be seen working near the open back door, where a woman wearing gloves was carefully examining the door handle as though checking for prints. Officials gave no details on what had happened and it was unclear if this was the incident investigators were examining to see if there was a connection to the Monterey Park shooting.

The shooting happened in the heart of downtown Monterey Park where red lanterns decorated the streets for the Lunar New Year festivities. A police car was parked near a large banner that proclaimed: “Happy Year of the Rabbit!”

The Lunar New Year celebration in Monterey Park is one of California’s largest and had attracted tens of thousands throughout the day. Most of the residents of Monterey Park, a city of about 60,000 people that sits at the eastern edge of Los Angeles, are Asian immigrants from China or first-generation Asian Americans.

Two days of festivities, which have been attended by as many as 100,000 people in past years, were planned. But officials canceled Sunday’s events following the shooting.

The tragedy marked not just the fifth mass killing in the U.S. since the start of the year but also is the deadliest since May 24, 2022 - when 21 people were killed in a school in Uvalde, Texas, according to The Associated Press/USA Today database on mass killings in the U.S.

The database also shows that 2022 was also one of the worst years ever in terms of mass killings, with 42 such attacks - the second-highest number since the creation of the tracker in 2006. The database defines a mass killing as four people killed not including the perpetrator.

The White House said that President Joe Biden was briefed on the situation by Homeland Security Adviser Elizabeth Sherwood-Randall.

“The President has been briefed by the Homeland Security Advisor on the mass shooting in Monterey Park. He directed her to make sure that the FBI is providing full support to local authorities, and to update him regularly today as more details are known.”

Attorney General Merrick Garland was also briefed, Justice Department spokesperson Dena Iverson said.

The shooting occurred at Star Ballroom Dance Studio, a few blocks from city hall on Monterey Park’s main thoroughfare of Garvey Avenue, which is dotted with strip malls full of small businesses whose signs are in both English and Chinese. Cantonese and Mandarin are both widely spoken, Chinese holidays are celebrated, and Chinese films are screened regularly in the city.

The business offered dance lessons from Tango to Rumba to the Fox Trot, and rented its space for events. On Saturday, its website said it was hosting an event called “Star Night” from 8 p.m. to 11:30 p.m.


Interesting how this article is minimizing statistics by referring to "mass killings," instead of "mass shootings." I thought these numbers seemed quite different from the mass shooting numbers quoted in a news video clip I listened to earlier this morning. I can't find the clip, but googled and google says that in 2022 there were at least 647 mass shootings in the USA (where 4 or more people are shot at) and so far in 2023, there have been at least 36 mass shootings as per:

https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/23/politics ... index.html

So, basically, about 1.5 times per day 4 or more people are going to get shot at in the USA right now - with distribution probably not being even, there will be more on weekends, holidays, full moons I bet etc. Pretty much every time there's an occasion that people gather for, probably in at least a couple places in the USA that crowd is going to get shot up. What a wild culture.. especially for a culture sold on Other cultures being dangerous. Seems like there's a much lower chance of a suicide bomber in a Middle East market than a mass shooter in an American Walmart.

Hmm, I wonder what the underlying cause of all of this is.. can't be the 120 guns per 100 Americans - those are for safety, clearly, sooo I guess while the experts work it out we can at least rest assured that gun manufacturers will crank up their production lines to further increase public safety. 8)


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23 Jan 2023, 6:59 pm

Monterey Park suspect may have been targeting ex-wife in shooting that left 10 dead

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he gunman behind the deadly dance hall shooting in the Los Angeles suburb of Monterey Park may have been targeting his ex-wife on the Lunar New Year, the California city's mayor said Monday.

That revelation came as investigators are focused on a personal motive and have discounted hate crime or terrorism as a possible inspiration for the attack, multiple law enforcement officials familiar with the investigation said.

The officials emphasized that it's early in the investigation, but said evidence gathered at the suspect's home and in the van where he was found dead of a self-inflicted gunshot wound Sunday afternoon so far suggests the bloodshed was somehow personal.

The death toll from Saturday's shooting climbed to 11 Monday, with at least nine others being treated for their wounds, officials said. Los Angeles County Sheriff Robert Luna on Monday afternoon said the suspect fired 42 rounds at the Monterey Park venue.

The sheriff said the gunman used a MAC-10, a compact semiautomatic and sometimes automatic firearm. The weapon was wrested at a second dance hall by a man being hailed as a hero.

Luna has called the firearm an "assault weapon."

On Sunday, the sheriff said he believed such a gun may be illegal to possess in California, but the legality of the weapon was unclear Monday.

Huu Can Tran, the 72-year-old suspected shooter, apparently thought his former wife was at the Star Ballroom Dance Studio when he burst inside and opened fire on a festive crowd, police said.

“My understanding is that he may have come because his ex-wife was reveling, celebrating the Lunar New Year, and it sounded like there was a history of domestic violence, which is unfortunate,” Monterey Park Mayor Henry Lo told NBC News’ Kate Snow.

Tran filed for divorce in 2005 in Los Angeles County, records show.

Huu Can Tran, the 72-year-old suspected shooter, apparently thought his former wife was at the Star Ballroom Dance Studio when he burst inside and opened fire on a festive crowd, police said.

“My understanding is that he may have come because his ex-wife was reveling, celebrating the Lunar New Year, and it sounded like there was a history of domestic violence, which is unfortunate,” Monterey Park Mayor Henry Lo told NBC News’ Kate Snow.

Tran filed for divorce in 2005 in Los Angeles County, records show.


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Monterey Park gunman was manufacturing homemade firearm suppressors, sheriff says
Los Angeles County Sheriff Robert Luna said investigators found a "few items of interest" at the shooter's mobile home — some of which led officials to believe he was "manufacturing homemade firearm suppressors." The items were gathered from a search warrant that was executed earlier Monday.

Some of the other items recovered were a 308-caliber rifle and various electronic devices — such as cell phones and computers, Luna said at a news conference Monday.

Officials also found "hundreds of rounds" of ammunition, the sheriff said.

Ballistic and forensic comparisons will need to be done on all of the items that were recovered from the alleged shooter's home, Luna said.

He said there is "a lot of work to be done there, but we don't want to leave any stone unturned."

Luna said homicide investigators are still working on what he called a “very complex investigation.” The sheriff said there is still a lot of things they don’t know.

Luna said his office is working in partnership with the FBI, ATF and the district attorney's office, among others.

Sheriff: 42 rounds fired at Monterey Park dance studio mass shooting scene from a high capacity gun
The Monterey Park mass shooting gunman fired 42 rounds of ammunition from a high-capacity handgun, Los Angeles County Sheriff Robert Luna said at a news conference Monday.

Luna also noted that a 9 mm caliber semi-automatic MAC-10 assault weapon was recovered at Alhambra dance studio scene, where the suspect fled after the shooting at the dance studio in Monterey Park.

Sheriff: Gunman was arrested in 1990 for unlawful possession of firearm
The man accused of killing 11 people at a Monterey Park dance studio had a "limited criminal history," according to Los Angeles County Sheriff Robert Luna.

The sheriff said Monday the gunman was arrested in 1990 for unlawful possession of a firearm.

Los Angeles County DA: Mass shooting seems to have been very targeted
The gunman was "very familiar" with the dance studio in Monterey Park where the shooting took place, Los Angeles County District Attorney George Gascón told CNN's Erin Burnett Monday.

"He has been part of that community, he met his ex-wife there," Gascón said on the Star Ballroom Dance Studio. "There is certainly the appearance that this was targeted."

As far as how the gunman was able to get a hold of weapons — one of which was a modified semi-automatic firearm — that are considered illegal in California, Gascón said he "has been a gun enthusiast for many years," so it is possible he acquired some of the weapons before they were illegal in California.


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Lunacy and murder knows no age or race.

But when it comes to the method being via gun it sure knows a nationality!


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Lunacy and murder knows no age or race.

But when it comes to the method being via gun it sure knows a nationality!


That sadly is true.


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24 Jan 2023, 10:57 am

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goldfish21 wrote:
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Lunacy and murder knows no age or race.

But when it comes to the method being via gun it sure knows a nationality!


That sadly is true.


Generally a dedicated Lefty here, but I will agree that the media is overhyping the danger guns pose to society.

South Korea has a much higher suicide rate than the US and lot less guns. Our homicide rate as a whole is higher than UK/France, but hardly so high that I'm packing my bags to leave.

The problem I see with the issue is everyone has made this a "categorical" issue in which there is no compromise. As a result we can't put forth and consider real regulations that might help things.

We have the technology to require every gun to have an RFID tag in it. If this were enacted, over the long run any place could put up RFID detectors at entrances (funded partially by a small tax on bullets/guns). Mass shootings would be more difficult if the moment a shooter brought a gun near a school, alarms sounded and cops were called before the first round went off. Cops could have different RFID tags and local police could be tracking position of guns in sensitive areas.

I don't even know if that would do much for most shootings but I do believe people should have a right to be away from guns just as much if someone wants to be near them. Apartment complexes should also be able to say "we are gun free" and enforce it. I'm so tired of reading about some idiot cleaning his gun and accidentally killing a neighbor. At least give people a choice to live in an area where you know your neighbor ain't armed to the teeth.

We could also have better background checks - we need to stop selling guns to losers who can't even have a place of their own. If you live with your mom cause you can't afford a place of your own you shouldn't be buying guns.

None of those things would even be remotely acceptable to 2a "black and white" types. Anything making it more difficult to buy a gun is seen as an assault on the 2a despite the 2a literally saying "well regulated" right there.

At best the left can offer bans, but I have no real problem with a sane person owning an AR-15. Its not the weapon to me, its better restrictions on the types of people that if you knew them, you'd be horrified that they had a gun. I have not met many that fit category, but my father in law has guns and he is going blind and senile. He lives in a gated community but is starting to worry a LOT about being robbed despite no crime in his area. He has already shot a hole in his wall accidentally, and there really isn't a good way to get people like that away from guns.

If he shoots someone, it will be, "how could this have happened??" but those that knew him would not be surprised at all. Last time I talked to him, he was offhand implying he wanted to use his guns.



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24 Jan 2023, 1:27 pm

Does that technology make exceptions for people whose job is to be there?


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24 Jan 2023, 1:48 pm

stratozyck wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Lunacy and murder knows no age or race.

But when it comes to the method being via gun it sure knows a nationality!


That sadly is true.


Generally a dedicated Lefty here, but I will agree that the media is overhyping the danger guns pose to society.

South Korea has a much higher suicide rate than the US and lot less guns. Our homicide rate as a whole is higher than UK/France, but hardly so high that I'm packing my bags to leave.

The problem I see with the issue is everyone has made this a "categorical" issue in which there is no compromise. As a result we can't put forth and consider real regulations that might help things.

We have the technology to require every gun to have an RFID tag in it. If this were enacted, over the long run any place could put up RFID detectors at entrances (funded partially by a small tax on bullets/guns). Mass shootings would be more difficult if the moment a shooter brought a gun near a school, alarms sounded and cops were called before the first round went off. Cops could have different RFID tags and local police could be tracking position of guns in sensitive areas.

I don't even know if that would do much for most shootings but I do believe people should have a right to be away from guns just as much if someone wants to be near them. Apartment complexes should also be able to say "we are gun free" and enforce it. I'm so tired of reading about some idiot cleaning his gun and accidentally killing a neighbor. At least give people a choice to live in an area where you know your neighbor ain't armed to the teeth.

We could also have better background checks - we need to stop selling guns to losers who can't even have a place of their own. If you live with your mom cause you can't afford a place of your own you shouldn't be buying guns.

None of those things would even be remotely acceptable to 2a "black and white" types. Anything making it more difficult to buy a gun is seen as an assault on the 2a despite the 2a literally saying "well regulated" right there.

At best the left can offer bans, but I have no real problem with a sane person owning an AR-15. Its not the weapon to me, its better restrictions on the types of people that if you knew them, you'd be horrified that they had a gun. I have not met many that fit category, but my father in law has guns and he is going blind and senile. He lives in a gated community but is starting to worry a LOT about being robbed despite no crime in his area. He has already shot a hole in his wall accidentally, and there really isn't a good way to get people like that away from guns.

If he shoots someone, it will be, "how could this have happened??" but those that knew him would not be surprised at all. Last time I talked to him, he was offhand implying he wanted to use his guns.


Pick any one of these google results to read, or just scroll and scan the headlines:

https://www.google.ca/search?q=guns+lea ... afari#ip=1

Yep. Guns are now the leading cause of death in children in the USA. Definitely no problems with the whole 120 guns per 100 people thing.. more guns = more safety!

Edit: Read your post a bit more thoroughly. It’s not quite as “guns aren’t the problem,” as I thought at first glance. I don’t necessarily agree with your ideas - rfid scanners everywhere, making it up to apartment building managers to somehow stop people with guns (yeah right), or restricting gun sales to people that don’t own/rent their own home (not everyone has that kind of money, and it’s now extremely common for 3 generations to live together.) etc.

But I do agree that the USA could use some better forms of gun control as well as a cultural shift in their relationship with guns. Pretty much a given that if there weren’t 120 guns per 100 people that guys like this wouldn’t reach for a gun to settle their disputes over dancing invitations. Nowhere else in the world is it so easy to waste a bunch of people with a gun because you’re upset about not being invited to go dancing. If it weren’t as easy as it is, it wouldn’t happen nearly as much. Dead simple stuff. But too many people are committed to “guns iz ma rights!” And “guns = safety.” So, many, Many, more will perish.


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24 Jan 2023, 1:53 pm

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Kraichgauer wrote:
Lunacy and murder knows no age or race.

But when it comes to the method being via gun it sure knows a nationality!


That sadly is true.


Generally a dedicated Lefty here, but I will agree that the media is overhyping the danger guns pose to society.



Which media? This is nonsense, simply reporting the news can't be called "overhyping".

My wife now refuses to watch local TV news because the hundreds of yearly shootings in the city in which we were born. However the 2nd Amendment prevents effective measures from being brought to bear. At least we live in one of the few states with no constitutional "right to bear arms". Maybe there's hope in that.


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24 Jan 2023, 2:04 pm

The US is getting more horrible every day and as always not a single solitary thing is done about and it's soooooo hilarious. :twisted: Canada may be a dump right now, but at least I can still go out and not *usually* worry about being shot at. Even though I usually only go out two or three times a week and it's never to some major public event anymore. :(



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30 Jan 2023, 10:49 pm

Wild guess : he felt dishonored when he was banned from the ballroom and decided to punish them back

Honor murders are not uncommon in the muslim world for example