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07 Feb 2023, 7:22 am

what kind of gov't would we have if it were mandatory that congressmen served just one term, were paid minimum wage and were banned from [on pain of prison] anything smacking of participating in any kind of quid pro quo.



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07 Feb 2023, 9:51 am

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I wouldn't classify members of Congress as "clowns." Ruthless shills for oligarchy seems more appropriate.


Sadly , i might be very inclined to Agree with this post .. :(


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07 Feb 2023, 10:05 am

I think it comes from a lack of faith in our current machinery of governments. We're seeing similar in the UK.

I think there's a growing number of people who have no faith in government to solve our problems or make their lives better, so they're happy to send disruptors and incompetents almost as a protest vote in the hope they'll trigger a structural change.

And then I think there's increasing numbers of people who see the very art of politics as duplicitous. Nuance does not exist. Compromise is suspicious. Changing course is weakness. There is no need to listen to any opposing viewpoints. They lost, get over it. So they are happy to send idealogues who have fixed ideas.


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07 Feb 2023, 11:26 am

Jakki wrote:
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I wouldn't classify members of Congress as "clowns." Ruthless shills for oligarchy seems more appropriate.


Sadly , i might be very inclined to Agree with this post .. :(


Yeah, it is what is. Not a very good place we find ourselves in.


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07 Feb 2023, 11:33 pm

we have met the enemy and he is us. if there were more among us who were truly patriotic rather than just mercenary, these jokers wouldn't get anywhere near any levers of power.



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08 Feb 2023, 12:18 am

DuckHairback wrote:
I think it comes from a lack of faith in our current machinery of governments. We're seeing similar in the UK.

I think there's a growing number of people who have no faith in government to solve our problems or make their lives better, so they're happy to send disruptors and incompetents almost as a protest vote in the hope they'll trigger a structural change.

And then I think there's increasing numbers of people who see the very art of politics as duplicitous. Nuance does not exist. Compromise is suspicious. Changing course is weakness. There is no need to listen to any opposing viewpoints. They lost, get over it. So they are happy to send idealogues who have fixed ideas.


Regarding Australian politics:
I will never vote for any party ever again in my life.
I think that says it all. 8)

This is how Trump was voted in.
A complete contempt for the political aristocracy in yank-land.
8O



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08 Feb 2023, 12:31 am

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they voted for her because she professed to have the same petty hatreds they did. t


Worked for Trump...



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08 Feb 2023, 12:32 am

cyberdad wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
they voted for her because she professed to have the same petty hatreds they did. t


Worked for Trump...

that is some proof, yes.



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08 Feb 2023, 1:06 am

And he was the biggest clown



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08 Feb 2023, 1:17 am

desatan is the next biggest clown.



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08 Feb 2023, 1:27 am

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desatan is the next biggest clown.


followed by Ted Cruz



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08 Feb 2023, 1:30 am

cruz is a bad joke. he wouldn't even defend his own wife against insults from trump.



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08 Feb 2023, 1:33 am

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cruz is a bad joke. he wouldn't even defend his own wife against insults from trump.


And the list keeps growing. Only two republicans left with any credibility are not likely to survive (Liz Chaney and Adam Kizinger).



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08 Feb 2023, 1:41 am

the sociopathic ones seem to have taken over the party.



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08 Feb 2023, 2:48 am

auntblabby wrote:
desatan is the next biggest clown.


Bigger than Biden?
That is hard to believe. 8O



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08 Feb 2023, 3:08 am

biden doesn't want to screw over the working class but the desatan clown [like the GOP as a whole] most definitely does.