De Santis used to groom underaged girls

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10 Feb 2023, 3:23 am

Donald Trump has claimed Florida governor Ron De Santis would ply alcohol to underaged girls
https://gizmodo.com/donald-trump-ron-de ... 1850089596

Trump has accused DeSantis of grooming underaged girls when he was a a school teacher

Where's the proof? Trump has posted pictures
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While the grooming label might be a little infalammatory, the images aren't flattering given De Santis was supposed to be a teacher and knowingly sharing alcohol with teenage girls knowing they were underaged.



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10 Feb 2023, 4:55 am

cyberdad wrote:
Donald Trump has claimed Florida governor Ron De Santis would ply alcohol to underaged girls
https://gizmodo.com/donald-trump-ron-de ... 1850089596

Trump has accused DeSantis of grooming underaged girls when he was a a school teacher

Where's the proof? Trump has posted pictures
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While the grooming label might be a little infalammatory, the images aren't flattering given De Santis was supposed to be a teacher and knowingly sharing alcohol with teenage girls knowing they were underaged.


What is wrong with their faces? 8O



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10 Feb 2023, 5:00 am

Trump slandering DeSantis?
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10 Feb 2023, 5:34 am

Could very well be a bunch of crap.



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10 Feb 2023, 5:39 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
Could very well be a bunch of crap.
Based on who clamis it? Definitely.

But if the two keep fighting each other, maybe some moderate Republican candidate gets a chance? Or, in other scenario, "silent majority" Republican electorate becomes discouraged from voting. In both cases, dangerous populism becomes less successful.


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10 Feb 2023, 5:55 am

Truly worthy opponents. :lol: :lmao:


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10 Feb 2023, 7:35 am

Yep….if this continues, the election will go the way of the 1912 election: a resounding victory for the Democrats because of dissension amongst the Republicans.



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10 Feb 2023, 7:41 am

I really like the two-round system we have here. I believe it's better than the American system. It gives a real chance to candidates with strong popular support but without party backing - and the second round makes those with strong negative electorate likely to lose.


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10 Feb 2023, 7:56 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
Yep….if this continues, the election will go the way of the 1912 election: a resounding victory for the Democrats because of dissension amongst the Republicans.


Was the Bull Moose Party a result of said infighting?


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10 Feb 2023, 7:57 am

magz wrote:
I really like the two-round system we have here. I believe it's better than the American system. It gives a real chance to candidates with strong popular support but without party backing - and the second round makes those with strong negative electorate likely to lose.


Do you have an electoral college?


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10 Feb 2023, 7:59 am

No.

The presidential election is direct, in the two-round system.


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10 Feb 2023, 8:21 am

The Bull Moose Party was the result of the Democrats nominated (President) Taft for the 1912 general election. The Bull Moose Party was a "third party," founded by the President who was before Taft: Theodore Roosevelt.

Taft and Roosevelt were once close colleagues (he recommended Taft for President in 1908)----but became bitter political rivals by 1912.



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10 Feb 2023, 10:56 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
The Bull Moose Party was the result of the Democrats nominated (President) Taft for the 1912 general election. The Bull Moose Party was a "third party," founded by the President who was before Taft: Theodore Roosevelt.

Taft and Roosevelt were once close colleagues (he recommended Taft for President in 1908)----but became bitter political rivals by 1912.


The first sentence in this post doesnt make any sense.

Taft was a Republican, so obviously the Democrats wouldnt "nominate" him.

Republican TR finnished McKinley's term because McKinley was assassinated in 1901 making TR the unelected POTUS for three years. He ran in 1904, won, and remained POTUS. TR and Taft were friends and partners in the progressive wing of the GOP. So TR threw his support to Taft and did not himself run in 1908 (he had already served essentially two whole terms). Taft got elected POTUS for the GOP in 1908 , but then as POTUS he disappointed the progressive Republicans including TR by being too conservative and to namby pamby. So in 1912 TR ran against him for the GOP nomination...but Taft won the GOP nomination (fairly or otherwise). So TR and his followers broke from the GOP and started the separate third Bullmoose party.

But youre right that that split in the GOP guaranteed that the Democrat (Woodrow Wilson) would win the 1912 general election.

It was a rather interesting election: Taft did the worst showing of any incumbent in POTUS history winning only 23.2 percent of the popular vote, and only winning the 8 electoral votes of two states( Utah and Vermont). TR got 27.4 percent of the popular vote and got 88 electoral votes.

Wilson got 435 electoral votes but even he only got the plurality (but not the majority) of popular votes by winning 41.8 percent.

And Eugene Debs ran for the Socialist Party, winning zero electorial votes, but getting 6 percent of the popular vote.



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10 Feb 2023, 11:25 am

I have no idea why I said Taft was a Democrat. Obviously, Wilson was the Democrat. I guess I was just rushing.

That's it. I knew that Taft was a Republican.



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10 Feb 2023, 11:41 am

Whether or not De-Santis or Trump have actually done anything like that, they certainly both seem like the type to at least want to.

But that is just the impression I get of them.


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10 Feb 2023, 12:37 pm

Mudslinging…pure and simple.

We need more class in our politics.