i made a girl cry on the bus today
We agree with Fairfield.
It's OK to be annoyed, but it's not OK to lose your cool when you're responsible for a large bus and all the passengers' lives on it. I know you pulled to the side of the road but imo this could be considered evidence that you aren't managing anger and frustration very well. You said you already have a history of being hospitalised because of public meltdowns. Driver conduct is important and should be beyond reproach. Even if you were angry or upset, imo you should have dealt with this differently instead of taking it out on one person.
Many teachers and doctors are autistic too and they don't get to humiliate or castigate students or patients. These days we won't even accept police singling someone out and yelling at them or being sarcastic. Cops are taught how to communicate calmly just like everyone else.
Your last post:
You never said you apologised.
What were you supposed to do?
.... I don't know - Follow your rulebook, I assume.
Can you post a photo of your rules for how to deal with litter?
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your always having a go at me like everything i do is wrong in your eyes
i never shouted or showed any aggression or sarcasm
i was nice to her when she was getting off
i wasnt just directing it at her personally when she picked the bottle up i was actually saying it to all the passengers which there was only about 8 on the bus at that time and all seemed to be college students and they are well known for making a mess on the buses
i always tell people to pick up their trash if i hear it being dropped on to the floor
im not gonna beat myself up over this like you want me to.im just me.
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Have diagnosis of autism.
Have a neurotypical son.
I don't have a go at you.
I find what you write to be confusing most of the time.
Many of your posts have contradictory ideas or feelings.
I'm very literal to I try to make sense of them by asking questions.
I've offered you all sorts of compassionate advice in the past on various topics.
I almost always respond to you because I think you want support.
Then it usually turns out you don't want support.
No matter what I say you think I'm attacking you.
I'd stop replying but you've said people don't respond to you enough.
You even said you thought people don't like you.
I'm trying to support you but I can't tell what you wanted in this thread.
If it's a news flash then great - Glad you had a nice day.
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i just mean you seem to moralise alot of stuff and give too much no you should do this you should do that
like in my thread about splitting up from my husband according to you it was very wrong to date my husbands friend
i know people can have opinions but you lecture your beliefs on to people iv seen u do it to others members too then they beat themselves up because they find your response too harsh
i dobt think i contradict i just dont always explain exactly how things happened in precise detail and
writing isnt my strong suit
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Have diagnosis of autism.
Have a neurotypical son.
I'm actually on a date right now and writing just to make sure you feel supported.
I'm sorry if you think I moralise.
That's far from my intention.
Based on the info you've given about your past abuse, I was looking out for your best interest.
I wanted you to be safe.
You said you didn't like that man.
You said your husband was hitting you, and trying to hook you up with the dude.
I gave the same advice I'd give any other vulnerable woman / person.
That advice is for your personal safety.
Other members said the exact same thing that I did.
Maybe mine seems more direct because I don't mince words.
It's still the same sentiment as everyone else, though.
I won't comment anymore on your posts.
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There was a bottle rolling around in the bus I was on yesterday, a passenger picked it up and put it in the little bin at the front.
Another time there was a woman that came on the bus swearing at someone on her phone the bus driver told her to stop swearing but she still kept on and throwing things on the floor, luckily she got off when she found she was on the wrong bus, the driver apologised to the rest of us and had to clean up her mess.
but you do tell people off in your posts not just me but other members iv seen
just enjoy your date dont worry about me just think of yourself for once and enjoy
I strongly disagree with this.
I've only seen compassionate and logical posts from Issy (especially in 'bump if you're awake' ). There is no telling off in them. Even the problematic posts and personal attacks aimed at Issy are always responded to respectfully, no matter how much crap is thrown their way. You only need to take a look on L&D for proof of that.
Some people don't like to hear the truth of their situation, behaviour, nor be questioned around these things, and feel they are being told off.
There are some members on here who make an extremely valuable contribution on WP by supporting members and addressing problematic posts, and Issy is no doubt one of these members.
In response to your OP: like Fairfield said, stopping the bus and asking someone to pick it up is all that needed to be done and said. It would be dangerous for them to pick it up while the bus was moving. I very much doubt the passenger threw the bottle on the floor. Anyone that did that wouldn't bother picking it up, and would probably tell you to f**k off - not pick it and cry after being told off in front of all the other passengers.
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My ex drove a school bus and they got filthy.He had to hose it out to clean it.
A bottle rolling around on the floor could break and cut someone.
I would have just asked someone to pick it up please.The person may have just set it down when the bus was stopped and it fell over when the bus started moving.
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I was on a bus a couple months ago & there was a big heavy metal bottle rolling around on the floor making a lot of noise, imagine a round brick rolling around. I'm suddenly wondering if someone got it to have as an inconspicuous self-defense weapon I picked it up & brought it next to the trash can. The driver thanked me for doing it because it was making a lot of noise earlier some time before I got on but then the bottle got stuck or something & quit rolling around for a while so the driver thought someone had taken care of it. I'm glad I picked it up cuz of how noisy it was.
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It is annoying and distracting when a bottle keeps rolling around the bus floor. From my experience of getting public transport, you are allowed to get out of your seat when picking something up.
Some bus drivers just have their own rules. I've been humiliated by a bus driver before and it made me cry. Some drivers just like to have that sense of power. I don't think the OP needs to be lectured about it.
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The reason why people are afraid to pick up a bottle on the bus----is because people are paranoid that the bottle might contain disease germs.
Yes...or sometimes they are just lazy.
I've picked up bottles before. Other times, I was sort of concerned about germs, so I didn't pick up the bottle.
Even in the best of times, there is a high degree of paranoia within public transport.
I don't litter on public transportation.
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Some bus drivers just have their own rules. I've been humiliated by a bus driver before and it made me cry. Some drivers just like to have that sense of power. I don't think the OP needs to be lectured about it.
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im quite stern i mean there isnt a law to say we have to tell passengers to pick up their trash but we do have the right to if we think its going to cause a hazard
yes i do sometimes get carried away with authority thats why some call me hitler down at the depot
I know this is an old thread, but I'm going to add my 2 cents, anyways. I don't think you did anything wrong. You spoke your mind. I think the girl was just having a bad day. She might have been crying about other things as well. Here are some Sweet Pea hugs as well.
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IMO it wasn’t very nice to call her out on it.
There’s no need to show one’s authority. Just ask nicely for someone to pick it up if it’s causing a problem. It didn’t need to become a thing.
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