I don't want children...

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You didn't reach the umbilical cord to strangle yourself with it before coming out into this cruel life?

Yeah. If you are set against it, that's all well and good, but many are not sure. If you are on the fence - well, all I can say is that I think people, women in particular, regret not having children more often than they regret having them. It's a very deeply ingrained urge that often surfaces right at the close - often causing an overwhelming tidal wave of misery if it turns out to have been left too late - which is why medical professionals are very wary about doing things that might make people permanently unable to procreate.

There was a group dedicated to shaming people on the spectrum for not desiring to have children so I am glad about that too, that I am not like the others following a flow and the fact we'd get targeted is a positive confirmation that we are deep thinkers and victims who are naturally good.

The Catholic church covered that base.
It was (I don't know if it has changed policy) a mortal sin to commit suicide.

I was snookered.
As a fetus, with my fetus's brain, I realised that strangling myself with my own umbilical cord would fast-track me to eternal damnation.
I reasoned that at least I had a shot at going to heaven if I did the hard-living yakka.
I am not sure it was a good choice. <satire>

There is just too much wrong with autism and the flesh without putting such responsibility on myself, another and a kid. Plus, I never understood why people are so selfish to not adopt instead of breeding. It's like when icecream exists in the fridge and will keep being created but you make more and let the other spoil. But these are real human beings which at this point are valueless.

I haven't yet figured a career out, my own health, and going shopping for myself rises issues beyond normality. I won't tell you about my womb and spine but birth would affect those things in very detrimental ways. Birth is not a gift upon any woman.

Society makes no sense to me, children struggle in schools for no reasons with nothing useful to learn, bullying and indoctrination and as a parent you have to help them, buy them things, take them to events and the state can pressure you into earning more money if you're divorced and if it thinks that you can earn more, that just makes autistic issues with jobs even worse. The idea is to progress not make life impossible and become a tree branching out affecting everyone around you in negative ways.

The idea of children was not invented, nature is not enlightened and has not made the best choices for humanity, contrary to that, we walk on two legs which is inferior to our ancestors, among other important things. It disturbs me what society created, and we also have Putin, and most of my exes, family members and their friends, its 'proud' creations.

There's no reason to propagate the madness. Neighbors can't stand me and understand me. They say it's a prison, the building we live in packed up yet they still breed. Don't they realize that these people are the result of births? The state of not having available space and homes is a result of communism refusal to offer contraceptive means. We are but a tool for the state to achieve its goals. Humanoids who get married and have children get benefits. There's no tests to see if the couple is fit for one another or for children, if the state wishes so badly to meddle in the population's breeding program. And you can get pregnant at 12.

Breeding is a huge responsibility. Human beings are rarely using their logical brain in their decision making. Such a thing does not become taught in families and schools. There forms an imbalance between overpopulation and undereducation.

That is also why some wanted and unwanted pregnancies happen.

There are times when humans have some personality traits that expose them to risk taking. Because humans have not intelligently chosen whom to sleep with they have created personality and intelligence disadvantages in the species. We are responsible for the future of humanity when we choose how and whom to have sex with, beyond causing a problem we are not ready for in our or the other person's future.

Risk takers might not pursue treatment for their issues because they are enjoying the momentary satisfaction, and in some cultures or families it is regarded as shameful to start being mentally treated.

Your life...
Your choice...
I am not a social activist...
I am simply presenting a POV.

Well thats fine with me if you dont want kids but I want as many kids as possible with my future wife since I am Quiverfull.

The same people who say they want the guv'ment to stay out of their business are the same people who want the government to regulate breeding.

hmm that is how I was born, my mom had to get a somewhat early emergency c-section because I got tangled up win the umbilical cord and was getting strangled by it. I do wonder if that has anything to do with my presenting as being autistic...but always lingers in my mind if I just had early brain damage due to my rather traumatic birth or is it really autism.

Then my mom had 3 other kids, like idk how she did it after that cause sure I could have ended up a still birth, but like she still had it in her to have 3 more kids. Like sure that's cool since it was her choice but yeah I never even want to have one kid let alone 4 of them, like to go through birth that many times like yeah I couldn't do it. And don't get me wrong I love my siblings but after how difficult birthing me was it seems kind of crazy she was willing to go through it 3 more times.

But back to the main topic: I remember an instance of some natalist conservatives on social media expressing ridicule towards an older woman who was proud to be single and childless which I thought was pretty ridiculous. To me it reads "You don't want to do what almost every other woman in existence wants to do, which is bad. It doesn't matter if it's not right for you personally, and it doesn't matter why. None of the potential consequences matter. You're not doing what everyone else does so you're bad."

Antinatalist here. Just going to add my 2 cents from a neutral perspective purely based on how I naturally tend to see things.

When it comes to the desire to have children that seems to apply to the vast majority of people, I feel like there are obviously social factors at work that influence people's positive views on raising a family. We are taught that specific pursuits (love and sex, having a high income, raising children etc) are what give our lives meaning as set paths are already paved for us by our culture.

So if a person is unable to achieve any of these heights they're expected to feel unfilfilled or miserable,
because there isn't ostensibly much to fill the void besides these particular metrics of value and success. A person unable to achieve these high feats in older age may experience existential dread, low self-esteem, depression, loneliness etc. It's just a lot to live up to but most manage to get there with time. But I believe these feats are slowly becoming more difficult even for well adjusted people.

But back to the main topic: I remember an instance of some natalist conservatives on social media expressing ridicule towards an older woman who was proud to be single and childless which I thought was pretty ridiculous. To me it reads "You don't want to do what almost every other woman in existence wants to do, which is bad. It doesn't matter if it's not right for you personally, and it doesn't matter why. None of the potential consequences matter. You're not doing what everyone else does so you're bad."

But at the end of the day people are just looking to add meaning and joy to their lives and while having children is a tremendous responsibility and challenging investment, the idea of bringing life into the world appears to be one of the most profound experiences a person can go through and can be incredibly fulfilling to most people, so it's not too surprising so many dream to have kids and don't really think too much of the consequences such as those already mentioned here.

Reason would suggest it is NEVER a good/moral idea to have children.
Being blackmailed into action by emotionalistic instinct is NEVER a rational decision.

Personally speaking, living life on the crest of emotional whims is something I have no respect for.

What about the kids and the wife's body tho. I fear for her health and identity being used as a religious resource for the purpose to get into heaven.

Also because there's no proof God exists why not stick to what we know, e.g. psychology, sociology, science, resource management?

I know about religious cults and tradition based decisions, they're not letting people think and they indoctrinate children taking away their personal decisions. Such a doctrine would be harmful to all those children.

The govt bias has become that obvious.

Children are extensions of their parents. I know, it's not a popular view, but it's the truth. Although I happen to believe in an afterlife, I do believe that for all PRACTICAL purposes the individual ceases to exist in any physical, material sense. Having children is a means of achieving a form of physical immortality. When you have children, you have the capability to continue your physical presence beyond death. Doing so has to potential to profoundly affect the world after you're gone.