Fishing is immoral

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Fishing is immoral and should be illegal. Ban fishing. The equivalent of fishing would be drowning a bunch of mammals and watching them die slowly. The only legal fishing should be bow fishing or gun fishing. The way they could legalize traditional fishing is through bb fishing, it would require 2 people to fish though. One person fishes then when they catch the fish, the other person shoots the fish in the head with a bb, the bb or pellet would need to have more velocity than the legal minimum velocity.

I don't know how society has let fishing slide for this many years. It is unethical and animal abuse. The only reasoning they have is "that's the way its always been done, that's the way we've always done it." Troglodyte amoral reasoning. In all other forms of hunting, the hunters are always trying to upgrade their bows, and upgrade their guns for the cleanest and most humane kills possible, all except for fishing. Fishing is like some bizarre exclusion that is outside the realm of logic. It is too primitive and needs to be improved.

this is a good point, however it's not just that people don't want to change the way it's done- it's simply too expensive to justify being ethical. That's capitalism for ya.

also, feesh tasty

Jesus disciples were fishermen. Jesus was a fisher of men. But I am a man of fish.

I would argue that it is more human for a mammal or fish to live free as nature intended and drown than live the life of a slaughterhouse pig and be shot.

Granted the pig would not even be in existence if we had not domesticated it.

Drowning doesn’t rank really high on worst ways to die. My sympathies to those who have involved in such tragedies.

Here is just another random point. There is nothing stopping someone from euthanizing fish immediately upon catching them. I think the flaw in your scenario is enforcing it. They apparently have reasons for what they do. Hunters commonly euthanize animals they hunt. There is more than one reason for that.

Some markets that sell fish are trying to keep them alive as long as possible. Think of an Asian market with the fish in water or on ice.

You know one thing that should probably be outlawed is keeping Bettas in an unheated little bowls. Those fish are bought to be kept in a little bowl and they don’t even eat because the water is too cold. That is a weird practice. Oh, Mr. Giggles is just fine.

The more fish we eat the fewer birds and mammals we have to kill for food.

Don’t forget the lobsters, now THAT is super cruel.


Maybe humans should create a killing nest technology?
They used bombs in the past, but this had been banned because it killed eggs and other lifeforms too.

In order for us (or any living creature) to survive, something else has to die. Period.

Vegans and vegetarians kill plants to survive. Plants are living creatures too and frequently they are eaten raw, which means the cells are alive when you crunch them between your teeth, or shatter them in your blender. Increasing evidence shows plants communicate with and help each other. At least I kill my food before I eat it. (And yes, I have killed my own meat and fish.)

Personally, I am more empathic to plants than other humans and animals. I would prefer plants be treated with more respect. I am serious here. This is not sarcasm.

There are sustainable issues which make eating plants better than eating animals, but you are still killing something.

In regards to fishing; if someone is fishing for food, kills and eats what they catch, that is just part of life. Something has to die for you to live.

I have a bit more problem with people who catch and release. That IS cruel to the fish. But one could also justify it as honing survival skills.

Basically, most of us no longer have to confront the deaths our existence requires.

i think the entire vegan debate is silly. They're hurting plants when they eat vegetarian, same with fungi, etc. Might as well just starve themselves if they're so obsessed with being ethical because nothing is ethical

Define moral?

Objectively we humans relate to suffering of others animals, because they are like us, and with empathy we can see it as wrong.

However its hard to say its immoral, as yet, people still eat meat to survive.

I think objectively its the right thing to do, to not harm animals as long as possible.
The practices of farming industry and fishing industry are barbaric.
Unfortunately they are sustaining us.

Objectively its immoral to kill anything without a sufficient reasons.
But even people kill each other for resources.

We humans are not so evolved today just because we have internet and forums, we are still primitive.
We are smart primitives though.

Being smart and primitive with lots of tech still does not make us above our own nature.
Our nature unfortunately is to eat meat as well.
I have heard arguments for veganism and they check out.
So I don't have beef with people who think they are more moral and eliminate meat from diet for concern for animals, as long as they know what they are doing and how to eat healthy vegan food.
Because veganism is not easy, and it can lead to serious health issues if you don't know how to do it right.

Indians in many regions don't hurt cows.
They consider them sacred.

I would say humans are more or less picky about what is and what is not moral, and often times context matters.