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03 Mar 2023, 3:13 am

I think I know why. Approx a third of the women are going for men who are older than their age group.


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03 Mar 2023, 3:19 am

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I think I know why. Approx a third of the women are going for men who are older than their age group.



This still doesn’t explain the significant increase in 4 years for young men only but not for young women.

Does this mean there’s increasingly young women wanting to date older (and much older) men?



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03 Mar 2023, 3:43 am

4 years is a short period, certainly too short to talk about large-scale social changes, so I think it would be worth examining what happened in these particular 4 years in this particular country.

Certainly, it's been economically turbulent time. My guess would be, the age when a man has his life sorted out and reached cretain kind of stability (which some women prefer, especially those wanting to start a family soon) has increased.


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03 Mar 2023, 4:09 am

I cant actually see the link as this device throws me off google if I try. What country is it?


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03 Mar 2023, 4:25 am

Rather than rely on empirical research. just look outside your front door



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03 Mar 2023, 4:44 am

cyberdad wrote:
Rather than rely on empirical research. just look outside your front door

Ahem, I live in an entirely different country, significantly different situation and very different dating culture.
Outside my front door, there are many interesting things but all of them completely unrelated to this topic.


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03 Mar 2023, 4:44 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
This article (based on the same study) https://nypost.com/2023/02/23/6-out-of- ... s-why/amp/
shows a significant increase of singlehood between 2019 and 2022 in young men but not in young women, so no Mona, it is not « only an age range » matter.

According to the NY Post article, the "experts" say this is because, within the past few years, the young men have been spending too much time watching online porn instead of interacting with real-life women.

The period "between 2019 and 2022" just happens to coincide with the COVID pandemic, which is probably a factor also.


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03 Mar 2023, 4:52 am

magz wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Rather than rely on empirical research. just look outside your front door

Ahem, I live in an entirely different country, significantly different situation and very different dating culture.
Outside my front door, there are many interesting things but all of them completely unrelated to this topic.


Like Pootin? :| 8O No thanks.



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03 Mar 2023, 5:44 am

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Rather than rely on empirical research. just look outside your front door

You mean rely on anecdotal evidence and confirmation bias? :roll:


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03 Mar 2023, 8:31 am

I've got a cousin who wanted a kid but didn't want a husband, so she found a much older guy with whom she made an "agreement". He would make his genetic contribution on condition that my cousin would raise the child alone. My aunt thought it was a weird but gave up trying to convince my cousin otherwise. Now she has two of them.

Glad things don't work that way here, or I'd be out of luck.



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03 Mar 2023, 10:20 am

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cyberdad wrote:
Rather than rely on empirical research. just look outside your front door

You mean rely on anecdotal evidence and confirmation bias? :roll:



Exactly.


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03 Mar 2023, 11:56 am

Twilightprincess wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Rather than rely on empirical research. just look outside your front door

You mean rely on anecdotal evidence and confirmation bias? :roll:


The point of such surveys is NOT to reply on these.



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03 Mar 2023, 12:52 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Twilightprincess wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Rather than rely on empirical research. just look outside your front door

You mean rely on anecdotal evidence and confirmation bias? :roll:


The point of such surveys is NOT to reply on these.


But those studies aren't reinforcing someone's preconceived notions, so clearly they're the problem and not the preconceived notion.


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03 Mar 2023, 5:50 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
60% Of Men Are Single But Only 34% Of Women Are… in America according to a Pew Research.

The math doesn’t add up, unless there’s a lot polygyny* going or a sudden increase of female homosexuality/bisexuality.

My theory is that women are getting boyfriends from other dimensions.

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*or a lot of males are cheating, but wouldn’t be that scale of cheating unsustainable?
What scale of cheating is sustainable? Assuming that a non-zero quantity of cheating takes place over a sustained period of time.


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03 Mar 2023, 6:30 pm

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but what is to say those 60% or men are deserving of a gf. Like say your stats are correct, is it possible there is some reason for this. Like why is this 60% of men being rejected and what can they do to improve their chances if that really is the case. Idk what do you suggest??

Is there a certain absolute threshold of goodness that men must pass or is it more like being graded on a curve? Is it that women will choose the top 40% of men regardless of how good or bad the average is? Like if all men get better than the threshold to get into the top 40% becomes higher.


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03 Mar 2023, 7:38 pm

funeralxempire wrote:
But those studies aren't reinforcing someone's preconceived notions, so clearly they're the problem and not the preconceived notion.


I learned the hard way that accepting "a narrative" doesn't actually work in the dating game. Neither do principles. Experience is (as always) the best teacher.

Dating used to be innocent in my father's generation. it become gameified around the 1980s and from what I see it's only gotten worse.

Throwing around accusations of bias is fine, except without confronting the truth you can't actually solve the problem why 60% of men are single or why 1 in 3 men will never experience sex.