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12 Mar 2023, 10:42 am

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An example would be Disney selling out by making all these goddamn live action remakes of their beloved classic animated films.


They know fans will still watch the remakes and they can make them into cash cows they can milk by offering more up to date content. My nephew sat through 5 min of the original 1977 Star Wars and switched off the TV. But he watched the Mandalorian and loves it. Bought all the merchandise. Got to keep up with the times.


That reminds me of how I introduced one of my cousins to Half-Life. Couldn't sit through the opening tram ride to he leaves as soon as the first map loading screen then goes off to play Call of Duty.


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14 Mar 2023, 7:31 am

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I don't believe that's true. What's so good about cancel culture and censorship? :roll:



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14 Mar 2023, 3:53 pm

As usual labels are unrealistic and don't cover the gamut of different views people carry



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15 Mar 2023, 3:50 pm

Here is one conservative's take on this question.
No Republican President, No Politics at the Oscars by Abe Greenwald for Commentary

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unday night’s Academy Awards show contained virtually no America-bashing. There were no calls to protect our democracy from fascists within, no stark warnings about warmongers leading our children to death on the battlefield, and no scolding American society for its mistreatment of disenfranchised peoples. Aside from the politics behind the picking of winners and losers, this wasn’t much of a political event at all. For once, we were spared the lessons and the marching orders, and permitted to watch a silly award show with the hope of simply enjoying it.

How did that happen?

There are two related causes here. First, a Democrat occupies the White House. It’s no secret that Hollywood is majority liberal and serves as the chief cultural conduit for progressive ideas wending their way into the mainstream. Universities indoctrinate the young and self-righteous; show business comes for the rest of us. When the president is a Republican, Hollywood takes it as an aesthetic felony and an intolerable insult to its dominance. How could the country that the industry tries so hard to elevate with obviously noble ideas be so dense and so unappreciative of all its selfless work? Clearly, audiences need a talking to.

So, for example, during the 2019 Oscars, when Donald Trump was president, Spike Lee, in his acceptance speech for best adapted screenplay gave a lesson on the slave trade and the country’s “genocide of its native people.” And he closed with this: “The 2020 presidential election is around the corner. Let’s all mobilize. Let’s all be on the right side of history. Make the moral choice between love versus hate. Let’s do the right thing!” That same year, Javier Bardem took a shot at Trump’s border policy while introducing the best foreign language film category, saying, “There are no borders or walls that can restrain ingenuity and talent.”

These speeches amplify the liberal causes of the moment. It’s hard to envision an Oscar show today in which a winner takes the stage and gives a MAGA rant. Imagine a filmmaker saying, “We have fictitious election results that elect a fictitious president. We live in a time where we have a man sending us to war for fictitious reasons.” But that’s precisely what Michael Moore said in 2003, when he accepted his best documentary Oscar.
When a Democrat is president, however, all is well in La La Land. It doesn’t matter whether, say, the crisis on America’s southern border is worse than it’s ever been. It’s really not worth mentioning. And railing against “fictitious election results” is obviously verboten (for now).

But—and here’s the second reason for our politics-free evening—no one in Hollywood likes the current Democratic president, Joe Biden, enough to be triumphalist about it. For example, on Sunday night’s broadcast, we didn’t see, as we did in 2013, the beloved first lady appear in a ballgown on a giant screen to announce the best picture category. And this isn’t only because Harvey Weinstein, Hollywood’s former chief liaison to the White House, is behind bars for rape and sexual misconduct. It’s because there is no beloved first lady. Yes, Joe and Jill Biden are Democrats, and they require some defending here and there. But no one really wants to get into the weeds on his record or, more important in Los Angeles, his daily performance. Barack and Michelle Obama, on the other hand, were the gleaming, cinematic king and queen of liberal America and the darlings of show business. Which explains why, after leaving the White House, they transformed seamlessly into movie producers.

Our moral instructors in Hollywood are pacified enough to refrain from correcting our failings. Yet, they’re not exactly filled with the kind of victorious exuberance that makes them want to rub it in. Which made for a perfectly delightful Oscar show.

Except for the fact that Everything Everywhere All at Once is a terrible movie and shouldn’t have won anything.


Perhaps the most accurate take on Hollywood was Marina Diamandis's back in 2010 before the word "woke" was well known.

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15 Mar 2023, 4:02 pm

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People of color want to see movies and TV shows based on THEIR history and culture, and I do understand and respect that because it has been ignored for far too long by the media.


What is "their" history exactly?? I am curious how some British fellow can step off a plane from London and become "American" in a matter of days whereas an African American whose ancestors have been in America since 1619 can have an immigrant like Nikki Haley tell them they should be deported because they are not a "true" American :roll:

I am sure minorities are kind of sick of being told by white people what "their" culture is when it was the same clowns who forced them to be "that culture". I find that pathologically quite sick.



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15 Mar 2023, 5:16 pm

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People of color want to see movies and TV shows based on THEIR history and culture, and I do understand and respect that because it has been ignored for far too long by the media.


What is "their" history exactly?? I am curious how some British fellow can step off a plane from London and become "American" in a matter of days whereas an African American whose ancestors have been in America since 1619 can have an immigrant like Nikki Haley tell them they should be deported because they are not a "true" American :roll:

I am sure minorities are kind of sick of being told by white people what "their" culture is when it was the same clowns who forced them to be "that culture". I find that pathologically quite sick.


Yeah and I'm sure many minorities are also sick of white progressives like you thinking that only you have the authority to decide what is best for them. :roll:

You also missed my entire point. There are things about their culture that they can be proud of.



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15 Mar 2023, 9:50 pm

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Yeah and I'm sure many minorities are also sick of white progressives like you thinking that only you have the authority to decide what is best for them. :roll:.


Individual people are free to decide what is best for them. I have no stake in their happiness.



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15 Mar 2023, 9:52 pm

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You also missed my entire point. There are things about their culture that they can be proud of.


ummm did it ever occur to you that having pride in one's culture doesn't require validation from "wh***y"?
I think you find people are proud of their own culture, each in their own way.



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16 Mar 2023, 2:48 am

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Next time Hollywood pretends to be woke with all their reimagining for modern audiences, I'm just gonna bring up a term that I should have used a long time ago.

Selling out.


But the audience is less "woke" than Hollywood. So it not "selling out". Or its failed selling out.


Not selling out as in sold all tickets and merch, selling out as in compromising integrity, authenticity, morality, and principles for a personal gain.

An example would be Disney selling out by making all these goddamn live action remakes of their beloved classic animated films.

Get your head out of your ass please. Thats obviously what I meant.

My point was that you cant "sell your integrity" if no one wants to buy it;.

My point is that what you seem to be saying is that "being woke is selling out". My point is that that would be an impossible way for Hollywood to "sell out" because their market (the movie going public) is not eager to buy it.