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klanka
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22 Mar 2023, 10:32 am

There's a virus that kills bacteria called bacteriophage. Maybe they are waiting for a while to bring it into general usage.



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02 Apr 2023, 4:15 pm

Re: What do we do?

1. Take the entire volume of antibiotics prescribed to you to reduce the risk of resistant bacteria.

2. Properly dispose of antibiotics.

3. Do what you can where you live to legally compel meat and dairy producers to be more responsible in their use/disposal of veterinary antibiotics; industrial scale husbandry is one of the largest contributors to resistant bacterial strains.

4. Do what you can to get your government to take the issue more seriously and make a greater priority of developing more synthetic antibiotics.

5. Spread awareness. Once saw a Sci major friend drink while on antibiotics.



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02 Apr 2023, 4:28 pm

I should have added, all of the above goes for antiviral medications as well.



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06 Apr 2023, 2:06 pm

Lecia_Wynter wrote:
Humans have cheated Darwin for 100 years and now he wants his money back.

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Note: I speed up the video slightly to make her sound even more high iq than she is, and she is obviously very high iq to begin with.

Serious question: What do we do about the antibiotics crisis?


What crisis? This was solved decades ago, all that needs to be done is for the FDA to adopt new procedures for the use of phages as an alternative to antibiotics. As it stands each and every strain that a doctor might want to use has to be subjected to the full medical testing regiment to demonstrate that it's safe, even though there's no difference from strain to strain beyond the utility of the particular bacteria that you're looking to wipe out.



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06 Apr 2023, 2:09 pm

klanka wrote:
There's a virus that kills bacteria called bacteriophage. Maybe they are waiting for a while to bring it into general usage.


Yes, it's why it's potentially a good idea to get a plane ticket to Tbilisi, Georgia if you're looking at an amputation purely due to infection.

The only time when antibiotics are completely mandatory is for strains like E. coli 157 which is fatal in very small amounts due to the excreted toxins. Most other bacteria aren't really much of an issue unless they are substantially out of proportion with how much should be there or in a place that they don't belong.



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06 Apr 2023, 2:13 pm

klanka wrote:
There's a virus that kills bacteria called bacteriophage. Maybe they are waiting for a while to bring it into general usage.


It's an entire class, not just a single virus. The Soviet Union did a lot of research into them.


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10 Apr 2023, 3:03 pm

cyberdad wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
Microbes might evolve structural defenses against one thing but not other things, and indeed would be depleted of resources by trying to evolve multiple new structures at once.


Well that's not quite true. Bacteria that live in sulphuric hot springs several miles at the bottom of the ocean have to adapt to
high temperatures near ocean/volcanic vents
high acidity from sulphuric gases
high water pressure due to depths

So what the heck is your point?
Seriously...why did you waste verbiage posting this?

I didnt say that "its an ironclade rule that organisms cant adapt to more than one thing".

I was saying that a strain of bug that evolves resistance to say ammonia, doesnt automatically ALSO evolve resistance to alcohol at the same time. Resistance to one thing doesnt necessarily confer resistance to the other. A strain in the US might evolve resistance to one thing, and another in China might evolve resistance to the other. And both might spread from their respective points of origin to mess up the world.

Extremaphilic bacteria that live in deep see vents have nothing to do with the subject because they have lived in that enviroment for literally billions of years. Indeed they may well have been the original forms of bacteria and the original forms of life itself on Earth. In fact it may well be that it was our ancestors who may have had to "adapt" to the hardships of living outside of undersea hot vents .

Were not talking about bacteria that are twenty times older than the dinosaurs. Were talking about bacteria in our kitchens that adapt countermeasures to what we humans have been doing only in recent years, decades and centuries.