Wolfgang Smith & John Vervaeke: a Dialogos on Turning Toward
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Great proposition and ontology conversation between Smith and Vervaeke, particularly with them connective via Neoplatonism and using that as an organizing principle to frame things like objective, subjective, and transjective as well as where we might be going wrong at managing the information commons at the professional level.
Wolfgang Smith & John Vervaeke: a Dialogos on Turning Toward a Science Grounded in Platonism
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Something that's been a centerpiece of this conversation is the idea that James J Gibson, which John Vervaeke admits that 4E Cognitive Science owes a lot of debt to, in Vervaeke's consideration, overthrew nominalism and representationalism. Some definitions of those:
Nominalism:
the doctrine that universals or general ideas are mere names without any corresponding reality, and that only particular objects exist; properties, numbers, and sets are thought of as merely features of the way of considering the things that exist. Important in medieval scholastic thought, nominalism is associated particularly with William of Occam.
Couldn't find a satisfactory definition quickly for 'representationalism' but it seems to amount to the idea that the only contact that we have with the world is internal representation and that it's pure facsimile.
Something I found on James J Gibson:
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