Seriously, why is there so much Misogyny on WrongPlanet?!
I think a lot of men are bitter at having a lack-luster love life and are frustrated, so they blame women and use whatever "proof" they have to back up that claim.
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That could be toxicity or a known grooming tactic but quite easily it could also be that people moan rather than highlight any good. I wouldn't make a post about how wonderful my GF is but I've been tempted sometimes to rant on here about her ( I may even have in my last account ).
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But don't let them get to you. Most of us *are* supportive.
Don't fool yourself. There's definitely a lot of misogyny in L&D, and I don't deny that for a second. There's also a history of misandry too -- it's by Incels against "good men" and even against themselves when they post how terrible it is to be a man, or they tell each other they'll never find a girlfriend if they don't shave (for example). They try to call that misogyny but it's actually men hating other men in some sort of bizarre, toxic-masculinity / political competition, but they'll never admit it. There's also misandry against men by some members who refuse to be accountable for their own egregious sexism, transphobia, or misanthropy, but that's another topic for another day. My advice would be to steer clear of L&D unless you have a very specific question and you see a productive conversation in progress. Otherwise, you're likely better to post in The Haven where you can't be attacked for your gender, whatever that may be.
I forgot to say that. ^ Great point. The mods are very helpful and responsive to reports of misogyny or any other sexism including transphobia. When I suggested The Haven I didn't mean for you to just ignore any problem posts / posters you might notice in L&D. Please speak up if and when needed. Your observations and input are both valued here.
Thank you for reiterating this important point, too!! Honestly, if there's any reason I tend to avoid L&D, it's often just because that sub-forum seems too overwhelmingly straight for the queer issues I often find myself grappling with!!
That could be toxicity or a known grooming tactic but quite easily it could also be that people moan rather than highlight any good. I wouldn't make a post about how wonderful my GF is but I've been tempted sometimes to rant on here about her ( I may even have in my last account ).
Which I can understand. Sometimes you need to vent about issues, and perhaps you can get some insight from other members on how to reconcile issues.
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dear god, dear god, tinkle tinkle hoy.
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believe in the broken clock and who's side will time be on?
Unfortunately, I have to agree with you.
There is a growing "Gender War" issue happening on here, imo.
Even people who are non-binary can be misogynists/misandrists - it's not irony.
Absolutely.
But don't let them get to you. Most of us *are* supportive.
Do yourself a favour, stay out of (L)oathing & (D)angerous, there are plenty of decent areas here with nice posters.
PPR is another forum that should be avoided if you don't have an Ambrams tank with reactive armour.
I don’t think “gender wars” is a growing problem. It’s always been a problem on WP, but some of us are less willing to put up with rampant misogyny/misandry/etc. than we used to be. IMO that’s a good thing.
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Well put. I think some people were also groomed / conditioned to represent certain gender roles disproportionately. Some people have been shamed into being more or less feminine / masculine, trolled for being non-binary or changing genders, etc. Exposing this will go a long way to restoring everyone's dignity, and put the topic of gender back in its proper context within the framework of "equality".
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And in the end, the love you take is equal to the love you make.
Well put. I think some people were also groomed / conditioned to represent certain gender roles disproportionately. Some people have been shamed into being more or less feminine / masculine, trolled for being non-binary or changing genders, etc. Exposing this will go a long way to restoring everyone's dignity, and put the topic of gender back in its proper context within the framework of "equality".
Excellent point!
We are all first and foremost people. We deserve to be treated with respect as autonomous, authentic individuals.
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peopole with autism spend a lot of time online and theree is lot of rabbit holes to go down. I mean luckily my brothers are not into that s**t. But yeah all the red-pill ideology and stuff like that just creates a toxic way of thinnking of like women almost being an alien specicies. LIke we are just people with a vagina but all these red pill guys want to preetend they have us all figured out even thogh a s**t ton of women hate when guys try to use pick up artist tactics on them.
But nah it is for sure a problem here on WP, but has been for a while, like it is nothing new, but still frustrating..
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Strange you find this funny. I suspect I was one of those reported who is in a loving committed relationship.
What might have diffused the need to report me is if some of you actually read what I posted.
I was talking about how I used to think about women 30 years ago long before I got married and during a time I was hitting a wall that (i strongly suspect) many young men hit right now.
Transformation is not possible unless you follow how you used to be to where you are now. Young men have virtually no male role models. Men in relationships or dating seem to have no time to mentor younger men. Those who do charge money and provide questionable advice.
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But nah it is for sure a problem here on WP, but has been for a while, like it is nothing new, but still frustrating..
But have you forgotten?
Womyn are from Venus...
And men are from Mars...
But seriously, there is a spectrum of attitudes out there.
Some good...
Some bad...
Think of it as a "Bell Curve"...