U.S. argues for immunity in MK-ULTRA mind-control case

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U.S. argues for immunity in MK-ULTRA mind-control case before Quebec Court of Appeal
Summary by City News
A proposed class-action lawsuit over infamous brainwashing experiments at a Montreal psychiatric hospital was before Quebec's highest court Thursday, as victims attempted to remove immunity granted to the United States government.
Published 6 days ago · Montreal, Canada

The U.S. government is arguing for immunity in a case in Quebec, Canada, dealing with its MK-ULTRA mind control program.

The U.S. government had successfully argued in Aug. 2022 in the Quebec Superior Court that it couldn’t be sued for its MK-ULTRA experiments, which included electroshocks and sleep deprivation, between the 1940s and 1960s.

But a class–action lawsuit filed by victims of brainwashing experiments that took place at Montreal’s Allan Memorial Institute appealed that ruling to remove immunity protection.

From CBC:

On Thursday, a lawyer representing the United States government told the Quebec Court of Appeal that the country should be immune from prosecution and that any lawsuit against the U.S. government should be filed in that country.

The court case stems from a class-action lawsuit filed against McGill University — which was affiliated to the psychiatric hospital — Montreal’s Royal Victoria Hospital and the Canadian and U.S. governments after Montrealers allegedly had their memories erased and were reduced to childlike states.

Class-action lawyer Jeff Orenstein said Thursday he believes Canada’s 1982 State Immunity Act, which outlines how foreign states can be sued in the country, is retroactive and can apply in this case.

He said the 1982 act allows foreign states to be sued in cases of bodily injury.

“But this took place in the 1950s and ’60s,” Orenstein told reporters, regarding the psychological experiments. “And so the exception had not been in effect during that period so (the U.S.) argued that the old law would prevail and the old law was absolute immunity.”

“We don’t think that Canadian citizens who are injured on Canadian soil are required to go to the United States to sue,” the lawyer added.

MK-ULTRA was an illegal joint venture between the CIA and the Canadian government from 1953-1973 aimed at researching and applying covert mind control techniques.

The lawsuit, filed in 2019, claims that the Canadian government funded psychiatric treatments by Dr. Ewen Cameron at the Allan Memorial Institute between 1948 and 1964.

77 victims subjected to the mind control experiments, such as chemically-induced comas, torture techniques, sleep deprivation and electroshock, received compensation from the Canadian government in 1992.

But neither the Canadian government, the CIA, nor any of the health clinics involved with the Allan Memorial Institute experiments have issued formal apologies.

“We are seeking damages, damages for the victims, the families…anyone who has basically suffered and they are still suffering,” Orenstein said. “This is why we launched a class-action lawsuit because the families deserve more compensation than they received back in 1992.”

Interesting. I had no idea this crap went down in Canada.

THIS IS AN OUTRAGE! Wait whats that buzzing sound I hear?

I totally agree, the US government should get immunity. All hail the US government, the greatest government ever to have existed.

Would like to start a thread on MKUltra....not sure which thread to put it

THIS IS AN OUTRAGE! Wait whats that buzzing sound I hear?

I totally agree, the US government should get immunity. All hail the US government, the greatest government ever to have existed.

Well, you could say THIS thread is an MKULTRA thread.
I have plans to use it as such.
It might eventually land in the PPR forum.

The mind control testing under the overarching umbrella of MKUltra was/is quite far reaching. In intelligence circles it falls under the category called "Psy-ops"

In the 1960s a number of serving military were (without consent) given hallucinogens (LSD) which put them and other people they knew at risk and were closely/covertly monitored. Those studies were identified as technically breaking the law but was conducted under the guise of national security and above top secret so was exempt (none of the administrators have ever been bought to justice).

Other projects include the Stanford Research Instutute SRI conducted on the grounds of Stanford University in the 1970s and conducted in absolute secrecy. Former test subjects reported they were selected to do remote viewing to spy on the Soviet union using (allegedly) psychic abilities. While it can't (and probably won't) be publicised this ever worked, according to test subjects they were able to remote view Soviet military sites) we know the CIA conducted these studies.

Since 9-11 the impetus to continue secret/covert testing likely means some form of psy-ops continues to this day.

I find it curious that not ALL files on these obscene experiments weren't destroy.
But then, you could say the same about the classified NAZI files after WWII.
But then, they were more chaotic times...

umm you do realise secret projects can continue in different forms or with new people in charge?