Page 3 of 3 [ 45 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3

KitLily
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 7 Jan 2021
Age: 55
Gender: Female
Posts: 5,074
Location: England

17 May 2023, 9:54 am

Summer_Twilight wrote:
Here are a few more examples:

Unsafe people say they are your friends but they don’t ever make you a priority in their life. However, they keep convincing you they are your friend. Yet, they never make time for you.

You notice that they treat your other friends to things but not you.

You have to bend over backwards for them but they make every excuse not to help you.


Well said! I can think of a few people that fits!


_________________
That alien woman. On Earth to observe and wonder about homo sapiens.


Summer_Twilight
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 13 Sep 2011
Age: 42
Gender: Female
Posts: 5,157

17 May 2023, 2:20 pm

Another one would be when these people impy that are the the one with the problem



KitLily
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 7 Jan 2021
Age: 55
Gender: Female
Posts: 5,074
Location: England

18 May 2023, 3:32 am

Summer_Twilight wrote:
Another one would be when these people impy that are the the one with the problem


What? I think you were autocorrected.


_________________
That alien woman. On Earth to observe and wonder about homo sapiens.


Fnord
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 6 May 2008
Age: 67
Gender: Male
Posts: 59,883
Location: Stendec

18 May 2023, 3:40 am

@All: There is a difference between 'Unsafe' and 'Unpleasant'.

A person with only poor social or verbal skills is unpleasant.

A person who also abuses, exploits, or threatens others is unsafe.


_________________
 
No love for Hamas, Hezbollah, Iranian Leadership, Islamic Jihad, other Islamic terrorist groups, OR their supporters and sympathizers.


MuddRM
Velociraptor
Velociraptor

Joined: 2 Sep 2021
Gender: Male
Posts: 439
Location: Beautiful(?) West Manchester Township, PA

18 May 2023, 4:14 am

I was (and still am) the family scapegoat. I’ve been no contact with my brothers for the past 12 years.



KitLily
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 7 Jan 2021
Age: 55
Gender: Female
Posts: 5,074
Location: England

18 May 2023, 9:23 am

Fnord wrote:
@All: There is a difference between 'Unsafe' and 'Unpleasant'.

A person with only poor social or verbal skills is unpleasant.

A person who also abuses, exploits, or threatens others is unsafe.


Yes exactly. And autistic people are mistaken for unsafe when we might only be unpleasant :?

I'm talking about people who are actually harmful to others. Or I was trying to, anyway.


_________________
That alien woman. On Earth to observe and wonder about homo sapiens.


IsabellaLinton
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 1 Nov 2017
Gender: Female
Posts: 68,636
Location: Chez Quis

18 May 2023, 9:26 am

Harms animals.


_________________
And in the end, the love you take is equal to the love you make.


KitLily
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 7 Jan 2021
Age: 55
Gender: Female
Posts: 5,074
Location: England

18 May 2023, 9:33 am

IsabellaLinton wrote:
Harms animals.


Yes, there is research to show that people who abuse animals often go on to abuse humans too. By that I mean murdering and/or becoming serial killers.

So they are definitely all round dangerous.


_________________
That alien woman. On Earth to observe and wonder about homo sapiens.


Summer_Twilight
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 13 Sep 2011
Age: 42
Gender: Female
Posts: 5,157

19 May 2023, 7:16 am

KitLily wrote:
Summer_Twilight wrote:
Another one would be when these people impy that are the the one with the problem


What? I think you were autocorrected.


Correction People imply that you are the one with the problem when it's really them who do. These kinds of people ones who like to pick fights with you.



KitLily
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 7 Jan 2021
Age: 55
Gender: Female
Posts: 5,074
Location: England

19 May 2023, 9:29 am

Summer_Twilight wrote:
Correction People imply that you are the one with the problem when it's really them who do. These kinds of people ones who like to pick fights with you.


haha, I wondered what you meant! Yes indeed. Picking fights for no reason.


_________________
That alien woman. On Earth to observe and wonder about homo sapiens.


notSpock
Blue Jay
Blue Jay

Joined: 26 Jun 2023
Age: 63
Gender: Male
Posts: 86
Location: Northern California

23 Jul 2023, 6:12 pm

KitLily wrote:
Fnord wrote:
@All: There is a difference between 'Unsafe' and 'Unpleasant'.

A person with only poor social or verbal skills is unpleasant.

A person who also abuses, exploits, or threatens others is unsafe.


Yes exactly. And autistic people are mistaken for unsafe when we might only be unpleasant :?

I'm talking about people who are actually harmful to others. Or I was trying to, anyway.


This comes close to what went through my head reading the post that started this thread. My wife sometimes gets outraged by others, without considering their point of view at all, and gets similarly annoyed with me if she feels I am not sufficiently taking her side. To her, that means I am being insensitive and disloyal. But I am a temperamental optimist with a very strong sense of fairness, and would certainly want someone to tell me if they thought I was judging someone else unfairly.

To me, always having someone's back does not require agreeing with everything they say or do. We can question a loved one's particular words or deeds without that being any kind of attack on their character -- even though they may mistake the one for the other. I want people to do that for me if they feel it is warranted.



bee33
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 19 Apr 2008
Age: 60
Gender: Female
Posts: 2,397

23 Jul 2023, 11:44 pm

notSpock wrote:
KitLily wrote:
Fnord wrote:
@All: There is a difference between 'Unsafe' and 'Unpleasant'.

A person with only poor social or verbal skills is unpleasant.

A person who also abuses, exploits, or threatens others is unsafe.


Yes exactly. And autistic people are mistaken for unsafe when we might only be unpleasant :?

I'm talking about people who are actually harmful to others. Or I was trying to, anyway.


This comes close to what went through my head reading the post that started this thread. My wife sometimes gets outraged by others, without considering their point of view at all, and gets similarly annoyed with me if she feels I am not sufficiently taking her side. To her, that means I am being insensitive and disloyal. But I am a temperamental optimist with a very strong sense of fairness, and would certainly want someone to tell me if they thought I was judging someone else unfairly.

To me, always having someone's back does not require agreeing with everything they say or do. We can question a loved one's particular words or deeds without that being any kind of attack on their character -- even though they may mistake the one for the other. I want people to do that for me if they feel it is warranted.

I think there's a way to do it so that the person who is close to you feels supported and you can still let them know they were wrong in some way. I would start by saying something supportive first, not untrue, but just an affirmation that you are on their side. And then, once they feel safe and supported, you can go on to point out whatever you feel was incorrect about what they did or said. (But still do it tactfully, though for me that's easier said than done.)



KitLily
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 7 Jan 2021
Age: 55
Gender: Female
Posts: 5,074
Location: England

24 Jul 2023, 3:45 am

notSpock wrote:
To me, always having someone's back does not require agreeing with everything they say or do. We can question a loved one's particular words or deeds without that being any kind of attack on their character -- even though they may mistake the one for the other. I want people to do that for me if they feel it is warranted.


Yes, that is not what I meant at all. A good friend should be able to question what we do if they think it wasn't right or sensible. If it's not clear cut right and wrong.

The examples I gave in my first post were ones where I was innocent yet the friend/relative immediately (and consistently) jumped to the defence of the person who had hurt me. People who constantly (with no exceptions) side with others against me are not friends.

As I said, the man who drove into my fence and gate was doing the wrong thing, I was innocent. The fence and gate were written off and completely broken. He wasn't injured, neither was his car. It was just my property which was destroyed. I should have called the police.

Defending someone you don't even know and isn't even there is just plain weird. You sympathise with the person you know, not some random stranger.

And making excuses when nursery workers let your granddaughter fall and severely injure herself...that is plain weird too. Many people would take the nursery workers to court.


_________________
That alien woman. On Earth to observe and wonder about homo sapiens.