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25 May 2023, 7:19 pm

naturalplastic wrote:
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Related content - the Moon is round too.

Coming to mind now is a time in a flat this that and the other thing discussion where in response to someone saying something along the lines of,

"Okay you round Earth and round Moon people, tell me one simple thing I can see with my own eyes which "proves" the Moon is round?"

Easy answer done in mere minutes, I said, Get a telescope and look for yourself at the terminator shadows.

Reply to that was that I was being a sarcastic smartass & just plain dumb instead of funny.

Ohh boy. :roll: :roll: They are too uninformed to even be talking to me.

If the Moon was not a sphere there would not be the great difference in shadow length/illumination angle between the center of the illuminated surface and the terminator area.

https://lafayettesciencemuseum.org/file ... inator.pdf

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Since the terminator is the place where the shadows on the moon are longest, craters, peaks, and many other
details stand out best there. As the moon goes around Earth the position of the terminator changes every night,
giving telescope observers a new batch of features to see. In fact, sometimes careful observers may be able to
see changes along the terminator in just a few hours as the terminator creeps across the lunar surface! Look
also for peaks that seem detached from the moon—they are in sunlight while their lower surroundings are not,
and are another place where changes can often be seen in hours. Because of the orbital motions of both the
moon and Earth, the exact position of the terminator on a given day after new moon varies a little each month
and certain features may be better seen in some months than in others. In other words, along the terminator
you get a different show every night!

The Moving Terminator
Lafayette Science Museum, 433 Jefferson Street, Lafayette, LA 70501


Maybe they think the moon is just a billboard in the sky!


https://youtu.be/2_uwE0WkM7Y


That's the ticket!


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27 May 2023, 3:51 pm

Just came across this related content on Yahoo News,

https://news.yahoo.com/maniac-conspirac ... 00184.html

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Maniac Conspiracy Theorists Think the Space Station Is Actually Underwater
Victor Tangermann
Fri, May 26, 2023 at 9:52 PM CDT · 3 min read
A hot new conspiracy theory has dropped — and this one is a faked-Moon-landing-level doozy.

This particular deranged rumor suggests that the International Space Station, which has been orbiting the Earth for well over two decades, is actually an underwater Hollywood soundstage.

Social media users have been flooding comments sections, including ones on Futurism's own Facebook page, suggesting NASA set up a massive rig to fake the orbital outpost.

"Must have been a great swim," one user commented on a recent Futurism post about a crew of tourists visiting the station.

"What a great dive," another user wrote.

Clips being passed around online purport to show the damning evidence: "air bubbles" being released by astronauts during spacewalks, or hidden wires or harnesses being worn by crew members as they float around the station.

The rest, they claim, is just greenscreen and CGI trickery.

A quick search for the terms "air bubbles" and "space" on TikTok brings up a whole host of videos, some with tens of thousands of views, suggesting that NASA was conspiring to fake astronaut footage in a pool.

A lot of these videos also make use of the hashtag "flatearth," suggesting there's considerable overlap with the persistent and idiotic conspiracy theory that the Earth is flat, not round.

Understandably, NASA wants nothing to do with these theories.

"At no time have props, green screen, wires or simulated underwater facilities substituted for actual real-time operation on the space station," Sandra Jones, a Houston-based spokesperson, told the Associated Press last month.

"None of it remotely has merit," Harvard astrophysicist Jonathan McDowell told the AP, adding that to "suggest it’s faked is just silly and ignorant."

YouTuber Dave McKeegan recently debunked the astronaut footage theorists have offered up as proof that the ISS isn't actually in space in a thorough takedown. Spoiler alert: the harnesses and wires are a figment of their imagination and can easily be explained by video compression, noisy video feeds, and artifacts.

Experts are also pointing out that these "air bubbles" are likely dust or ice particles that free themselves from the astronauts during spacewalks.

"Bubbles of gas moving through a fluid do not follow a perfectly straight line as they rise to the surface," Joshua Colwell, a planetary scientist at the University of Central Florida, told the AP.

Yet these purported bubbles "fan from a common point of origin, and they move at a constant speed and in perfectly straight lines," Colwell added.

Then there's the matter of why NASA would be doing all of this in the first place. And if space travel was faked, wouldn't they make it a little more exciting, instead of filled with boring protocols and downtime?

It's difficult to wrap one's head around the belief that the space agency, which spends about $3.1 billion a year on the space station program, would bother creating an elaborate — and uninspired-looking — soundstage.

To actually believe such a thing would require not only suspending one's belief in recorded footage — but in one's very own eyes as well.

You don't even need a telescope to spot the space station from the ground, as it circles the Earth 16 times every 24 hours, though a pair of binoculars could prove helpful. The station is the third brightest object in the sky after the Moon and Venus, thanks to its massive size, reflective quality, and proximity to the ground.

Some have argued that this kind of skepticism has deep roots in the wider crisis of trust in the government, which in the US was exacerbated by events like the Pentagon Papers or the Kennedy assassination.

With the advent of social media, these theories have found a solid new foothold online, allowing them to reach new audiences. Combine that with algorithms that have perfected new ways of accelerating their spread, it's easy to see why they persist to this day — even if that reality is frustrating.

More on flat Earthers: Flat Earthers Puzzled by Why People Don't Fall Off "Bottom" of Globe https://futurism.com/the-byte/flat-eart ... ttom-globe

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27 May 2023, 4:58 pm

^^^
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