Friendly periodic reminder that a better world is possible

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31 May 2023, 5:05 am

The steps we need to take in order to create a better world have long been mapped out for us. It is up to us People to follow these steps. Let us move the Revolution for our liberation forward!


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31 May 2023, 7:29 am

What steps are you referring to?


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31 May 2023, 7:52 am

^^^ Amen Brother



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31 May 2023, 11:31 am

Nope, utopianism has never worked out. Even if we figured it out, the current generation would die off and it'd have to be relearned.

One person can't really do much either. The purpose of life is to have a good life, thats it. Making the world better is a pipe dream. The people that actually make things better tend to be people that discover cures/vaccines or invent new things. The rest is up to groups of people and group dynamics are such that people suck.

Case in point, I've seen surveys where they ask people how much more they'd be willing to pay for gas in order to avoid global warming. Survey results? $0. People want to pay nothing. When anonymous, people are selfish and short sighted. People in groups are inherently anon so people in groups act like s**theads.



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31 May 2023, 12:35 pm

What system are you considering?


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31 May 2023, 1:16 pm



Hmm, i Just got off the Phone With
An ATT&T Representative From the

Philippines, She Said i Made Her Whole

Day By Treating Her With Kindness Like A Human

Being; Like A Creature With the Face of 'God,' If We Come

to Understand

'God' is What We

Create of LoVE iN Peace TOGETHER

For Real; the Human Moving Connecting

Co-Creating 'Force' of Warmth That Doesn't Come Guaranteed

With Any Religion, Politics, Or Philosophy, or Economics Either;

It Is Between Human Beings And It Springs From Warm Peace Within...

Yes, 'Utopia' Is Possible

Yet the Only Place Utopia

Truly Exists is Within the

Peace Inhaling That is No Fear;

Leaving Room For More And More Love

to Exhale in JoY oF LiGHT; Giving, Sharing,

Caring, Healing For All With Most Respect Least Harm;

Indeed, Naked Enough Whole Complete; No Fancy College Degrees

Required; Not even the Human Species Alone as Bonobos Do A Fine Enough

Job of Utopia

That Comes

DarK Thru LiGHT

With No GOD DAMNED

Words of Text or Other Human

Tools That Separate

Them From Naked,
Enough, Whole

Complete; Yep,

Just With The Fur of
Empathy And Compassion

of Frigging Getting Along Each And
Every Day By Feeling And Sensing Life As Gift

Rather Than What
to Grasp to Own TO

MATERIALLY REDUCE

And Control Alone, So Very Rigid Indeed

Yet You See This is Only my Practice of

LIFE FREE, where in 'REAL LIFE' THE RESULTS ARE

CONSISTENT WITH MOST EVERYONE i meet face

to face as there is So Much That Words In Text Do Not Relate;

Including

Both A Real
Dance And

Song Of Life;

Whether on the Phone

or In Real Life too; Words In Text

Are More Difficult to Create As Organic

As Real Breathing Avatars of LoVE iN Peace;

Indeed, For Those Who Have What it Takes to

Feel And Sense the Avatars by Metaphors; The Results are Nearly the Same

as "Real Life" Utopia too; Only The Present Gift of LoVE iN Peace ToGeTHeR For Real...

Indeed, Two Folks Sitting Next to Each Other at a Bus Stop or Online; One Living In

Heaven Within;

The Other Having

NO FRiGGiNG clue
What They Are Even MiSSinG Dancing Free...

FULL DISCLOSURE: FINANCIALLY INDEPENDENT
FOR 15+ YEARS; Indeed That Leaves More room
to Be Human Again...

And My Hotel

HaS Endless
Rooms Now For Real...

A Practice of Life Always
Now... NEW... FOR REAL...

THE GoLDeN AGE



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31 May 2023, 1:18 pm

Well, the 'easiest" pill to swallow, is "Socialism", IMO. This is literally the "in-between" form of society and economics that takes the place of capitalism, and realigns the status quo, so as to allow other, more "radical' forms of lef... uh.. more Humane forms of society and economics.

The steps to take are nearly the same as what our oppressors use: Organize and Educate. Form powerful Unions. Capture key industries, utilities, and media. Form political parties, and re-establish friendly relations with other the "states" who have moved the Revolution further than we have. Get inspiration from them.

Learn to Be Vigilant, Be Disciplined, Be Principled, Be Diligent. This is a constant struggle, and we owe it to our grandchildren to keep the pressure on the ghouls who feel they need to exploit us.

Talk to your neighbors and co-workers (within reason, ofc. some people may not be too receptive to this as of yet)

Spread the message, and not just online.

Support your local Mutual Aid organizations (or create them)

Learn how to grow, store and prepare food (obv. this is not for everyone)

Take "stock" in what you KNOW you can do to help move this process along. Learn new, important and productive concepts and occupations.

DO NOT go back to sleep.

SOLIDARITY with the Philippines!


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31 May 2023, 1:28 pm

stratozyck wrote:
Nope, utopianism has never worked out. Even if we figured it out, the current generation would die off and it'd have to be relearned.

One person can't really do much either. The purpose of life is to have a good life, thats it. Making the world better is a pipe dream. The people that actually make things better tend to be people that discover cures/vaccines or invent new things. The rest is up to groups of people and group dynamics are such that people suck.

Case in point, I've seen surveys where they ask people how much more they'd be willing to pay for gas in order to avoid global warming. Survey results? $0. People want to pay nothing. When anonymous, people are selfish and short sighted. People in groups are inherently anon so people in groups act like s**theads.


Image A Life Without Money.

Utopianism is literally something that can never exist (but we can strive to move in that direction)

The "failed" socialist and communist projects were FORCED to do so by the very class of ghouls that we OBVIOUSLY need to bring down.

I have watched this process unfold my entire life, and I also SEE CLEARLY that the current trajectory we are on is leading Us to CERTAIN MISERY and DESTRUCTION. To ignore this is folly!


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05 Jun 2023, 12:09 pm

mrpieceofwork wrote:
stratozyck wrote:
Nope, utopianism has never worked out. Even if we figured it out, the current generation would die off and it'd have to be relearned.

One person can't really do much either. The purpose of life is to have a good life, thats it. Making the world better is a pipe dream. The people that actually make things better tend to be people that discover cures/vaccines or invent new things. The rest is up to groups of people and group dynamics are such that people suck.

Case in point, I've seen surveys where they ask people how much more they'd be willing to pay for gas in order to avoid global warming. Survey results? $0. People want to pay nothing. When anonymous, people are selfish and short sighted. People in groups are inherently anon so people in groups act like s**theads.


Image A Life Without Money.

Utopianism is literally something that can never exist (but we can strive to move in that direction)

The "failed" socialist and communist projects were FORCED to do so by the very class of ghouls that we OBVIOUSLY need to bring down.

I have watched this process unfold my entire life, and I also SEE CLEARLY that the current trajectory we are on is leading Us to CERTAIN MISERY and DESTRUCTION. To ignore this is folly!


Socialism sucks, no one forced it to fail. Communism is downright evil - only way you can end private property is to shoot people who refuse to give it up. It inherently requires killing people or at least imprisoning people for owning private property.

Capitalism works and has brought more people out of poverty than any government program. That is the truth. All thats needed is social safety nets, not socialism. Communism is so abhorrent that anyone that brings it up in a positive light needs to be laughed out of the room.



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05 Jun 2023, 12:25 pm

Utopia relied on slave labour, if I remember correctly. It’s a long time since I read it.


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05 Jun 2023, 2:35 pm

Trueno wrote:
Utopia relied on slave labour, if I remember correctly. It’s a long time since I read it.


Yup. 1800s US was known as the period where an immigrant could come from poverty and get a bunch of land. To get that, it required killing off the natives.



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05 Jun 2023, 4:38 pm

Both China and the USSR pulled millions upon millions of People out of poverty, as they developed their respective projects, and they both did this in very SHORT periods of time. The US USED SLAVERY to develop its infrastructure, and of course did this after killing off the Peoples already on this continent, and took a very LONG TIME to create a civil society that has really only truly solved very FEW things, in comparison. Capital RELIES on poverty to ensure there is always a pool of proletariats to keep the wealth generating machine running. That wealth is then STOLEN by the capital class, and is used to FOOL the masses under its control into thinking the capitalistic system is a just and sane one.

The capital "project", the true "evil" in this world, is a system of enrichment for the ONLY the capital class, while the rest of Humanity suffers under its brutality. It relies on WAR, THEFT and EXPLOITATION to stay in power. This system needs to be destroyed, so Humanity can create the systems which ensure ALL PEOPLE are allowed to live safe, healthy and productive lives. Call those systems "not-capitalism", since you seem to have issues with the definitions of words.

Get real.


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05 Jun 2023, 4:40 pm

mrpieceofwork wrote:
Friendly periodic reminder that a better world is possible
When Hell freezes over.


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05 Jun 2023, 5:55 pm

No. Not allowed. You're supposed to just accept a steady march towards dystopia, apparently that's defined as maturity.


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06 Jun 2023, 2:36 am

I agree, a better world is possible. The world is pretty much constantly getting better thanks to capitalism. Child mortality is decreasing, as is maternal mortality. Extreme poverty is decreasing. Educational attainment is improving. Access to electricity is improving. Life expectancy (even in countries that have long had low child mortality) is improving. More people have access to refrigerators, electric ovens, plumbing, and central heating. Encyclopaedias have gone from being a luxury product for the rich to something anyone with an internet connection can use. Internet connections have gone from being rare and cumbersome to common and easy (60% of the world population has an internet connection, up from 12% twenty years ago or about 0.2% thirty years ago). Electricity used to be mostly generated by coal, now lots of countries have almost eradicated coal and most new generation is renewables.

I disagree that your vision for the world is either better or possible.

When anarchists say “a better world is only possible through revolution”, in effect they are saying “a better world is impossible”. The statement stands in opposition to all the ways in which the world is getting better.



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06 Jun 2023, 3:01 am

With all due respect, while a better world may be possible, Mr. Walrus, it seems highly unlikely.


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