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26 Mar 2008, 4:44 am

learn more , not play at all, works the same as quiting :p

i played the trial of eve several weeks ago and i hated it because it was too hard for my aspie mind and Wow is a bit childish, cartoonish , some like more lotro because that is more based on a book then on a rts game. I know someone who hates wow and plays lotro instead because of the fact he hates everything that stands for Blizzard and cartoony artwork and rts


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31 Mar 2008, 12:53 am

I played wow for a year, and was moderately addicted. Once Tuesday during downtime I signed into one of those free private servers. Within 10 min I have a level 70 char with all the best armor and weapons. I have an epic flying mount, which I cruised around on for a few minutes, until I started getting bored. Then I logged out and canceled my real account. I haven't been able to play again since.



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31 Mar 2008, 10:45 am

The parental controls seem as loose as those gaming commission suits at a casino, who "check up" on someone if they played hours on a slot machine.


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31 Mar 2008, 11:36 am

parental controls suck on purpose as blizzard want people to play as much as possible it's just there as a token gesture.

I like EVE cause you actually learning useful skills if youir a manager at a corp or CEO.

In fact there's even business firms making there junior managers and CEO's play the game to help reinforce there management level skills. Though EVE is a very hard game to elarn it took me 6 months to get on me feet once there i started raking it in sometimes uysing a mining macro while i sleep like lol.


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31 Mar 2008, 11:58 am

Here is a couple of vids that might help.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyhtobWIIE8&feature=related[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aw6IIz1RSTo&feature=related[/youtube]


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31 Mar 2008, 1:14 pm

true but now the cap is raised to level 80

ps at the end of the movie there is a list of more movies , nuff said

i used to play more before , now i am down to a couple of hours per day , i was more addicted to DAOC then to wow now , why because i had a guild in DOAC and not in wow
a guild pushes you over the limit of that they want you how to behave , they tell you that they need a character of that level at given time etc..letting you people to help you takes away half of exp per mob you would normal earn in a session

say you were doing the exiles (level 39) with a level 40 and full rested gives you round 440 xp per mob , grouped it would give you 440/2 per peep who is helping you so you have to do more to level then going solo; that is why it is so addicted; people drag you in it


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31 Mar 2008, 6:52 pm

I had always heard that WoW was addictive. In fact, they have something like WoW anonymous. I don't care for most online games, I have friends that are always wanting me to play with them. I like to play video games at my own pace and not have to follow a guild when they want to play. The only online game I ever liked was Socom: CA online but I didn't get along well with most of the other people because I got on only when I felt like it and not when they wanted me too, which is another reason I don't want to get into WoW. Plus, I can't bring myself to pay for a game anymore after I buy it the first time.


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31 Mar 2008, 7:08 pm

I played the free trial and didn't think it was that addicting. Then again, I had already played Everquest and Ultima Online so it basically seemed like more of the same with new graphics.



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29 Apr 2008, 8:44 am

i quit aswell, time and money consuming, and it got boring



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29 Apr 2008, 9:26 am

Anubis wrote:
Step 1: break your disc.

Step 2: cancel your subscription.

Step 3: buy a PS3 and The Elder Scrolls Oblivion.


Step 1: break your disc
Step 2: cancel subscription
Step 3: Get Oblivion for the PC because consoles suck...


As for me, I played wow a bit (about 4 months in 2006 and for another 4 months in 2007)... but I never really got into it... It didn't take over my life as it has others... I have a feeling that my addiction to TES3: Morrowind throughout my entire high school career built up something of an immunity to addiction to other games (the only thing that broke that addiction to Morrowind was when Oblivion came out...)



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30 Apr 2008, 3:58 pm

I lost a few years of my life to both EQ and WOW, playing as an escape from unpleasant reality. And looking back to what was typical Aspy behavior - I rarely managed to stay in any guild for that long... I highly advise AGAINST playing those types of games - too easy to fall into the trap. Read books, do something physical, take up a productive hobby.

Only way I quit was to delete my characters (so if I ever reactivated my account, I would have to start over), cancel my subscription, uninstall the game, and break the CDs in half. I even went back after a year+ away when life started to really suck again, but each subsequent stay in fantasy world was shorter and I was able to get out before I did too much damage to the "real world."


anyone who posts on these forums already has enough problems with life, just say no to gaming



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30 Apr 2008, 4:25 pm

Roark wrote:
just say no to gaming


How can you say that? If it weren't for gaming, I would not be as well off right now as I am. At best, I would be incredibly bored all the time. At worst, I would have been driven insane and probably be sitting in a cell or asylum right now... I need gaming to maintain my sanity, otherwise I would venture out into other things like drugs or beating the crap out of people just to get rid of the boredom...



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30 Apr 2008, 9:30 pm

I am referring to MMORPGs - EQ, WOW, and the like

Gaming achieves nothing - it is a pure leisure activity and the MMORPGs have a unique ability to consume more and more of your life. The online friends you make may be nice, but they are no substitute for flesh and blood. They can't come over your place to hang out, or take you out for a coffee or beer if you are feeling down, can't look into your eyes or give you a hug. If you know yourself and can limit it to a reasonable playtime of 1-2 hours a night where it is just a substitute for TV great. But for people with less than optimal social skills - the online world can be an easy place to retreat and withdraw to - it sure was for me.

If you game seriously (2-3+ hours a day) that is easily 15-20 hours a week, like a part time job - but with nothing to show for it... Read books, learn an instrument, develop some hobby - something to improve yourself and that you also might be able to put on a resume or talk about in a job interview.

I look at the years I wasted in my life (During my deepest depression I was logged onto Everquest for over 150 days in 1 year - that is almost 50% of my life in game, and way over half of my non-sleeping time). If I had actually tried to deal with my issues - go out and engage the world, develop hobbies, anything productive it would have been better then the void I existed in.

Too many people who game use it as an escape - and anyone with Asperger's already has enough challenges in life.



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30 Apr 2008, 9:54 pm

Roark wrote:
I am referring to MMORPGs - EQ, WOW, and the like

It didn't sound like that was the only thing you were talking about... it sounds instead like you were talking about every game ever made (and still are)...

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Gaming achieves nothing - it is a pure leisure activity and the MMORPGs have a unique ability to consume more and more of your life. The online friends you make may be nice, but they are no substitute for flesh and blood. They can't come over your place to hang out, or take you out for a coffee or beer if you are feeling down, can't look into your eyes or give you a hug. If you know yourself and can limit it to a reasonable playtime of 1-2 hours a night where it is just a substitute for TV great. But for people with less than optimal social skills - the online world can be an easy place to retreat and withdraw to - it sure was for me.

If "online friends" are not a substitute for real friends, does that mean I should forsake this community here at wrong planet? I never really got sucked into online games like WoW, but the same logic can be applied to this situation. The only real-world social construct I am deeply involved in is my church (where there's nobody in the 18-30 range other than me). This online community provides much of the interaction with people my own age that I have, since I can talk to people here of my own age, and not be immediately ostracized...

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If you game seriously (2-3+ hours a day) that is easily 15-20 hours a week, like a part time job - but with nothing to show for it... Read books, learn an instrument, develop some hobby - something to improve yourself and that you also might be able to put on a resume or talk about in a job interview.

I am a full-time college student, spend 20 hours a week at my church doing stuff for the youth group and the choir, and still have time left-over for 2-3+ hours of gaming each day...

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I look at the years I wasted in my life (During my deepest depression I was logged onto Everquest for over 150 days in 1 year - that is almost 50% of my life in game, and way over half of my non-sleeping time). If I had actually tried to deal with my issues - go out and engage the world, develop hobbies, anything productive it would have been better then the void I existed in.

Too many people who game use it as an escape - and anyone with Asperger's already has enough challenges in life.

I do agree that people who do absolutely nothing but game while awake need to pull themselves out, but to suggest that the three hours a day I put into Tetris is somehow a waste of my life is just an affront to what I hold dear...



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01 May 2008, 6:54 pm

The topic of this thread was "Trying to quit WOW." I figured that would make it clear I was referring to that genre of gaming. I said, and you quoted me on it: "MMORPGs have a unique ability to consume more and more of your life" I also said online games are not a substitute for flesh and blood friends. They can be a complement, in addition to the real world, but not a substitute.

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The only real-world social construct I am deeply involved in is my church (where there's nobody in the 18-30 range other than me). This online community provides much of the interaction with people my own age that I have, since I can talk to people here of my own age, and not be immediately ostracized...


You are exactly the situation I am talking about. Instead of using the online world for your only interaction with people your age, you should be out there putting yourself into situations where you can make friends your age, however painful the learning process may be. Join some interest group with people your own age. Anything. People need friends their own age.

You need it more than you need 2 hours of tetris...



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01 May 2008, 10:03 pm

1) How can one make friends when nobody will even talk to me... The only people that do talk to me in the real world are all 20 years older than me...

2) I used to have friends my age... actually amazing feat to pull off for me in high school), but then they all went to college in upstate New York, while I decided to stay local to minimize college expenses... I'm still friends with them, but I only talk to them online...

3) I can't see myself becoming friends with anyone else at my school because I don't want to be dragged to some BS party...