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25 Aug 2007, 8:14 pm

I prefer my burgers to made from meat from a different part of the animal thank you very much.


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25 Aug 2007, 9:33 pm

probably some irish stopover genes here. I know one part of my family, the 'Brinkley's came from that area. We are all a lot of blue-eyed brunettes around here. I'm not, but thats just because mom's contribution which left my sister and myself with 'hazel'' eyes. I had a question, though. Are there a such thing as red and black irish? And if so, is it a racial issue?



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25 Aug 2007, 10:19 pm

one of my good online friends lives in dublin, also van morrison lives there :)


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26 Aug 2007, 4:54 am

dawndeleon wrote:
red and black irish?


You mean skintone? If so, yes we have many nationalities in Ireland but only in the last 10 years. Before that very few maybe 0.5% of the population. Since the economy has been good for the last decade and with the expansion of the European Union there has been a large influx of immigrants into Ireland especially from Eastern Europe, China & West Africa. They probably account for 7 or 8 % of the population now. Dublin is also a popular place for foreign students to learn English. I think the majority of Irish are racially tolerant (for the want of a better word) but there will always be an element of racism and bigotry.

Haven't seen many 'Red' Irish (well only sun burnt ones) I don't think Ireland is that popular with American Indians!! ! Not that they wouldn't be welcome.



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26 Aug 2007, 6:37 pm

squatterandtheant wrote:
dawndeleon wrote:
red and black irish?


You mean skintone?

I think she means black and tan Irish


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27 Aug 2007, 4:13 pm

richardbenson wrote:
one of my good online friends lives in dublin, also van morrison lives there :)


The late Jim Morrison (The Doors) was of an Irish background and is widely believed to have had the tic :wink:


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27 Aug 2007, 8:03 pm

Papillon wrote:
richardbenson wrote:
one of my good online friends lives in dublin, also van morrison lives there :)


The late Jim Morrison (The Doors) was of an Irish background and is widely believed to have had the tic :wink:


oh, I can SO SEE that!

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27 Aug 2007, 8:27 pm

no, i was referring to hair color. It seems that there are a lot of blue eyed and dark haired dubliners, or from what i have seen. They seem as common as sandy blondes here. Is it common, or do i have some strange phenomenon of only meeting one brown eyed irishmen and quite a few blue eyed ones. The reason i asked is on a recent tv show I saw conan o'brian call alec baldwin a 'black irish bastard' and i wondered in my own mind...hmmm what does that mean? (baldwin also has dark hair and blue eyes and is of irish descent) I am not sure if you know those two men, but probably... i mean not personally, but more 'know of' category. OH GOD WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN!! !! Dammit, why did i get so obsessed with bono at such an early age? I wanna go to Ireland!



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27 Aug 2007, 10:01 pm

dawndeleon wrote:
no, i was referring to hair color. It seems that there are a lot of blue eyed and dark haired dubliners, or from what i have seen. They seem as common as sandy blondes here. Is it common, or do i have some strange phenomenon of only meeting one brown eyed irishmen and quite a few blue eyed ones. The reason i asked is on a recent tv show I saw conan o'brian call alec baldwin a 'black irish bastard' and i wondered in my own mind...hmmm what does that mean? (baldwin also has dark hair and blue eyes and is of irish descent) I am not sure if you know those two men, but probably... i mean not personally, but more 'know of' category. OH GOD WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN!! !! Dammit, why did i get so obsessed with bono at such an early age? I wanna go to Ireland!


The reason Conan O'Brien said that was a long long time ago a fierce and bloody battle over disputed land raged between the High King of Tara Aengus Baldwin and the High King of Munster Donal O'Brien. Spears were pierced torsos and swords ripped through armour and flesh as the battle continued over many hours. Dismembered bodies strewn across the blood soaked fields. Shrieks of agony and death echoed throughout. Dense mist hung in the air. The trees in the distance paid no heed to the mayhem. By now three quarters of warriors on both sides had been slain. Young fighters with mud and scarlet faces and gashed limbs fought on bravely and mercilessly for king and province. Frightened horses rose to hind legs and then fled, some with their dead riders traililng alongside with their feet jamed in the stirips. The two leaders were the fiercest of the warriors. They each fought with mighty zeal for they both knew well what was at stake, namely the honour and pride of their peoples. A chance moment came for Baldwin as O'Brien was caught unaware, the mighty Aengus lunged forward and buried his heavy iron sword into his rivals side, twisting it, severing vital organs and stopping him in his tracks. He pulled the sword out, his opponent dropped slowly to one knee then the other clutching his side in vain as thick blood spewed from his side. Baldwin stood over him, guilty weapon in hand and looked into his piercing green eyes. O'Brien began to utter.. 'many many years from now on a evil magical communication medium in American, my descendent will get revenge for this by ridiculing your descendent by pointing out that through the generations your family have been unable to retain that trademark Baldwin ginger hair you are so proud of...Because of the Baldwin dark hair he'll probably call him something like a Black Irish Basta...' without finishing his sentence you could hear a rattle as the last of the breath left his lungs. O'Brien fell face down into the thick mud.



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28 Aug 2007, 7:55 am

oh, well that makes sense then.



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28 Aug 2007, 10:11 am

dawndeleon wrote:
oh, well that makes sense then.


So in other words I have no feckin idea why Conan O'Brien said that to Alec Baldwin. Your quess is as good as mine! :)



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28 Aug 2007, 6:34 pm

dawndeleon wrote:
...I saw conan o'brian call alec baldwin a 'black irish bastard' and i wondered in my own mind...hmmm what does that mean? ....

I thought "black Irish" was a reference to Irish people who had descendants from Spain, like "Costello" :?

But I like squatterandtheant's explaination :D


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28 Aug 2007, 7:11 pm

You may be right Baz :)



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29 Aug 2007, 8:08 am

BazzaMcKenzie wrote:
dawndeleon wrote:
...I saw conan o'brian call alec baldwin a 'black irish bastard' and i wondered in my own mind...hmmm what does that mean? ....

I thought "black Irish" was a reference to Irish people who had descendants from Spain, like "Costello" :?

But I like squatterandtheant's explaination :D


My "Irish" ancestor on my father's side was from Spain - got ship wrecked off the Irish coast when the Spanish Armada got distroyed by the English. Used the name of Saville. . . (pronounced "saaaville") but that Spanish blood was just a strain with all the subsequent Irish people that poured their genes into the bloodline.

My father had brown hair, but when his chin whiskers grew out it was red, red, red!

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04 Sep 2007, 2:09 pm

dont forget to vote!



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29 Nov 2010, 4:58 pm

Hello! I'm Irish with Irish parents from Ireland and I live in Ireland. I have mild ass burgers. Might as well have ass burgers if I have ass "buns"... :-P