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FranzOren
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29 Apr 2024, 10:52 pm

Most studies point out that most people with Autism Spectrum Disorder are more likely to be victims rather than perpetrators. Why did some scientists create the term "Criminal autistic Psychopathy"? It kind of sounds ableist, to be honest.



Those outdated articles are found in Google Scholar and they seem legit. I hope you understand where I come from.



It could be that we are more likely to be very easily brainwashed or manipulated into committing crimes without mans rea and malicious intent. But it does not happen all the time and criminal or antisocial behavior related to Autism Spectrum Disorder is not malicious and is completely different than Antisocial Personality Disorder for example.



Research, sources, and references:





https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=e ... hy&oq=Crim



Higher Autistic Traits Among Criminals, But No Link to Psychopathy: Findings from a High-Security Prison in Portugal - Journal of Autism and Developmental Disorders



https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Mi ... fitzgerald



Frontiers | Autism Spectrum Disorders in forensic psychiatric investigations–patterns of comorbidity and criminality



Autism Spectrum Disorder



Empathy: Autism and Psychopathy



https://ufv.arcabc.ca/islandora/object/ufv%3A37837/



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30 Apr 2024, 6:21 am

FranzOren wrote:
Most studies point out that most people with Autism Spectrum Disorder are more likely to be victims rather than perpetrators. Why did some scientists create the term "Criminal autistic Psychopathy"? It kind of sounds ableist, to be honest.



Those outdated articles are found in Google Scholar and they seem legit. I hope you understand where I come from.



It could be that we are more likely to be very easily brainwashed or manipulated into committing crimes without mans rea and malicious intent. But it does not happen all the time and criminal or antisocial behavior related to Autism Spectrum Disorder is not malicious and is completely different than Antisocial Personality Disorder for example.



Research, sources, and references:





https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=e ... hy&oq=Crim



Higher Autistic Traits Among Criminals, But No Link to Psychopathy: Findings from a High-Security Prison in Portugal - Journal of Autism and Developmental Disorders



https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Mi ... fitzgerald



Frontiers | Autism Spectrum Disorders in forensic psychiatric investigations–patterns of comorbidity and criminality



Autism Spectrum Disorder



Empathy: Autism and Psychopathy



https://ufv.arcabc.ca/islandora/object/ufv%3A37837/


I read somewhere a high proportion of serial killers have autistic traits if you look on google you should be able to find an article confirming that.

It’s statistics and how they are told. For example -

nearly all rapists are men but hardly any men are rapists

Likewise many serial killers have autistic traits but hardly any autistic people are serial killers.

Sometimes you get clueless attention seekers or those who can’t do maths misrepresent stats for their own reasons


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30 Apr 2024, 6:30 am

That actually makes sense now.



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30 Apr 2024, 1:55 pm

carlos55 wrote:

Likewise many serial killers have autistic traits but hardly any autistic people are serial killers.


And keep in mind that serial killers are extremely rare in the first place. Less than one percent of all murders committed in any given year is serial killing.


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30 Apr 2024, 4:19 pm

That makes sense.



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05 May 2024, 9:39 am

BillyTree wrote:
carlos55 wrote:

Likewise many serial killers have autistic traits but hardly any autistic people are serial killers.


And keep in mind that serial killers are extremely rare in the first place. Less than one percent of all murders committed in any given year is serial killing.




It is possible to have Autism Spectrum Disorder and Antisocial Personality Disorder, as well as are much more likely to be victims than perpetrators, some victims also can become criminals, but that is rare. Some victims become delusional or psychotic and then develop severe personality disorders and unhealthy paraphilias/unhealthy fetishes and make delusional excuses as to why they want to murder their abusers and some of those people commit murder against their abusers.



To say that victims can't become criminals is false and untrue because being abused for a long time can affect your mental health badly into symptoms of personality disorders that may lead to criminal behavior later on in young adulthood.



Research, sources, and references:



​1) https://www.google.com/search?q=The+cau ... s-wiz-serp





2) https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-con ... evelopment.





3) https://www.samhsa.gov/mental-health/an ... y-disorder





4) https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/d ... y-disorder





5) https://jaapl.org/content/49/4/462





6) https://www.google.com/search?q=Autism+ ... s-wiz-serp





7) https://www.purdueglobal.edu/blog/crimi ... ce-system/



But Prof. Sam Vaknin links crime to High-functioning Autism, also known as Autism Spectrum Disorder Level 1: https://youtu.be/7GjuAdqi1nA



Same thing with Wikipedia as well: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-func ... m#Behavior