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08 Jul 2024, 12:46 pm

Autism could be diagnosed with stool sample, scientists say

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Scientists have raised hopes for a cheap and simple test for autism after discovering consistent differences between the microbes found in the guts of autistic people and those without the condition.

The finding suggests that a routine stool sample test could help doctors identify autism early, meaning people would receive their diagnosis, and hopefully support, much faster than with the lengthy procedure used in clinics today.

“Usually it takes three to four years to make a confirmed diagnosis for suspected autism, with most children diagnosed at six years old,” Prof Qi Su at the Chinese University of Hong Kong said. “Our microbiome biomarker panel has a high performance in children under the age of four, which may help facilitate an early diagnosis.”

Rates of autism have soared in recent decades, largely because of greater awareness and a broadening of the criteria used to diagnose the condition. In the UK and many other western countries, about one in 100 people are now thought to be on the autism spectrum.

Studies in twins suggest that 60-90% of autism is down to genetics, but other factors contribute, such as older parents, birth complications and exposure to air pollution or particular pesticides in pregnancy. Signs of autism range from children not responding to their name and avoiding eye contact, to adults who find it difficult to understand what neurotypical people are thinking and getting anxious if their daily routine is disrupted.

Scientists have long known that autistic people tend to have less varied bacteria living in their digestive system, but whether this is due to autism in some way, or actually contributes to the condition, is a matter for debate.

To delve deeper into the puzzle, Su and his colleagues analysed stool samples from 1,627 children aged one to 13, some of whom were autistic. They checked the samples to see which bacteria were present, and did the same for viruses, fungi and other microbes called archaea.

Writing in Nature Microbiology, the researchers describe how gut microbes differed markedly in children with and without autism. In all, 51 types of bacteria, 18 viruses, 14 archaea, seven fungi, and a dozen metabolic pathways, were altered in autistic children. Armed with machine learning, a form of artificial intelligence, the scientists were able to identify the autistic children with up to 82% accuracy, based on 31 microbes and biological functions in the digestive system.

The study revealed other changes too, with various metabolic pathways involved in energy and neurodevelopment apparently disrupted in the autistic children.

“While genetic factors play a substantial role in autism, the microbiome could act as a contributing factor by modulating immune responses, neurotransmitter production, and metabolic pathways,” Su said. “This does not necessarily imply causation, but suggests that the microbiome might influence the severity or expression of autism spectrum symptoms.”

If the researchers’ thinking is correct, and disruption to the microbiome does affect the severity of autism, it raises the prospect of personalised interventions that use diet or live bacteria known as probiotics to establish a more diverse microbiome in those diagnosed with the condition.

“Ultimately, this broad scope increases the potential to develop more effective, noninvasive diagnostic tools and therapeutic strategies for autism,” Su said. The team is now running a clinical trial to investigate whether stool samples can help to identify autistic children as young as one year old.

Dr Dominic Farsi at King’s College London said the results could have “great potential” in diagnostic practice, but added that more research was needed to confirm the findings. “Notwithstanding, these results could represent a big step towards enhancing diagnostic methods for autism spectrum disorder,” he said.

Dr Elizabeth Lund, an independent consultant in nutrition and gastrointestinal health, said: “The idea that analysis of stool samples may aid in diagnosis is very exciting, as currently there is a massive backlog in children and adults waiting to be assessed. The current process is very lengthy and there is a shortage of clinicians such as psychologists and psychiatrists trained to carry out a proper diagnosis.

“Clearly the study needs to be repeated by other groups and in other populations around the world, but the approach might offer a novel and more automated route to diagnosis in the longer term.”


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08 Jul 2024, 12:47 pm

My first thought is that autistic people often eat a restricted diet. Surely that would in itself reduce the variance of microbes in the gut?


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08 Jul 2024, 7:01 pm

I eat all kinds of foods from the four food groups so guess I'm not-tistic after all. :roll:

Of course, we're lucky if "they're" not trying to make us eat our own stool instead of just taking samples of it. Or anyone else's for that matter.



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08 Jul 2024, 9:19 pm

Trying to think of a polite reaction to this. Apparently, "Dominic Farsi" is and actual person.

EDIT: He wants more samples to analyze, I'll try to accommodate him. Luckily I have digestive tract issues, so I could probably give him some interesting material.


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10 Jul 2024, 10:22 pm

Huh? :o


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11 Jul 2024, 1:31 am

I don't think it relates to what food we eat or restrictive diets, but just how our bodies metabolize certain foods and amino acids. I know mine is messed up with folate and other compounds including nearly every medication.


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11 Jul 2024, 11:34 am

I find it very hard to believe that the difference between autistic people and allistic people is caused by different gut bacteria. To be honest I doubt the spectrum of symptoms we lump together and call "autism" is one condition, but several different conditions that share some of the symptoms, in the same way heart-, lung- and stomach problems share the symptom "chest pain".


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11 Jul 2024, 12:36 pm

The gut stuff wouldn't cause autism. It's the other way around if it's connected at all. The genetic differences which lead to our autism would / could also lead to our metabolism functioning differently because we'd be missing some genes and digestive or nervous system functions. That's how I see it anyway. I've been to a geneticist and my genetic difference is common in autism / ADHD, but it also makes me not metabolize nutrients like everyone else.


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12 Jul 2024, 9:47 am

^It seems to be various versions of these "findings". I didn't read the linked article, but read an behind-paywall article in The Guardian recently about some scientists taking stool sample from autistic people an injecting it to mice. They claim the mice then started to show "autism-like behaviours". (Whatever that is in mice.)


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