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11 Jul 2024, 11:17 am



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This is operation "Eagle Assault" a roughly 2 week training exercise that features a company of PLA troops and one Y-20 transport. These kinds of military and cultural exchanges are frequently used by allied nations to increase the ability to operate jointly and provide opportunities to exchange ideas.


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11 Jul 2024, 11:45 am

To help Russia, because that's who the PRC is siding with. Also, Belarus is in full support of the proposed "Grand Union", which would constitute Russia, Belarus and Ukraine.

To Xi, Putin, and Lukashenko, Zelensky is the domino standing in the way of that happening.


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11 Jul 2024, 11:51 am

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To help Russia, because that's who the PRC is siding with.


I don't think so Tim.

There are not enough Chinese troops in Belarus to make any difference to the conflict. You're offering the same uninformed kneejerk take that the video is intended to debunk. What difference do you think a single company of troops will make?


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11 Jul 2024, 5:24 pm

On paper it's supposed to be joint military exercises with Russia and Belarus to deal with terrorism

https://www.theguardian.com/world/artic ... ish-border

Belarus has officially joined the Shanghai Cooperation Organization led by China and Russia, deepening their coordination on military, economic and political matters.



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11 Jul 2024, 5:59 pm

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On paper it's supposed to be joint military exercises with Russia and Belarus to deal with terrorism

https://www.theguardian.com/world/artic ... ish-border

Belarus has officially joined the Shanghai Cooperation Organization led by China and Russia, deepening their coordination on military, economic and political matters.


Given the importance of supply and logistics, these sorts of exercises are especially useful for building experience with arranging the the movement of materiel.

This is an area China needs to improve in if they wish to be seen as a genuine superpower that's able to effectively project force. Conversely, this is something the US is very good at to the point that there's the joke about the US military being a logistics operation that dabbles in combat.


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11 Jul 2024, 10:18 pm

So the axis (Russia, Belarus and China) are a united front to NATO and a coop to deal with muslim insurgencies.



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12 Jul 2024, 8:39 am

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So the axis (Russia, Belarus and China) are a united front to NATO and a coop to deal with muslim insurgencies.

Apparently so. Kinda what the Cold War era Warsaw Pact pretended to be (the old Warsaw Pact consisted of Iron Curtain east European vassal states to Moscow pretending to be a freely formed association of nations formed to counter NATO).

In the short run this new club has more to do with combating Islamist terrorism than with battling the West.

And even if push came to shove with the west ...this excercise may have more to do with attacking west to secure Russia's Kaliningrad costal enclave than with attacking south into Ukraine.



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12 Jul 2024, 9:09 am

But it does appear suspicious at a time when we are fully supporting Ukraine...during a war..


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12 Jul 2024, 4:50 pm

naturalplastic wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
So the axis (Russia, Belarus and China) are a united front to NATO and a coop to deal with muslim insurgencies.

Apparently so. Kinda what the Cold War era Warsaw Pact pretended to be (the old Warsaw Pact consisted of Iron Curtain east European vassal states to Moscow pretending to be a freely formed association of nations formed to counter NATO).

In the short run this new club has more to do with combating Islamist terrorism than with battling the West.

And even if push came to shove with the west ...this excercise may have more to do with attacking west to secure Russia's Kaliningrad costal enclave than with attacking south into Ukraine.


Interesting! Putin really does want to go back to the future invoking the old Warsaw pact. He is (after all) a product and remnant of the old KGB.



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12 Jul 2024, 5:00 pm

cyberdad wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
So the axis (Russia, Belarus and China) are a united front to NATO and a coop to deal with muslim insurgencies.

Apparently so. Kinda what the Cold War era Warsaw Pact pretended to be (the old Warsaw Pact consisted of Iron Curtain east European vassal states to Moscow pretending to be a freely formed association of nations formed to counter NATO).

In the short run this new club has more to do with combating Islamist terrorism than with battling the West.

And even if push came to shove with the west ...this excercise may have more to do with attacking west to secure Russia's Kaliningrad costal enclave than with attacking south into Ukraine.


Interesting! Putin really does want to go back to the future invoking the old Warsaw pact. He is (after all) a product and remnant of the old KGB.


For sure...about Putin. He has been quoted as saying that "the biggest tragedy of the 20th Century was the break up of the Soviet Union". And his job was running the KGB in East Germany when Eastern Europe was under Soviet domination.



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12 Jul 2024, 5:15 pm

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For sure...about Putin. He has been quoted as saying that "the biggest tragedy of the 20th Century was the break up of the Soviet Union". And his job was runing the KGB in East Germany when Eastern Europe was under Soviet domination.


It's a pity, when Boris Yeltsin was around, there was so much hope Russia would become a friend of the west. But ultimately the people/system allowed for the rise of an ex-KGB operative through the ranks into government. Now he's in power he has set up a defacto authoritarian state with him as an unopposable "dear leader". Would not be surprised he admired Stalin's hold on power.



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12 Jul 2024, 6:46 pm

funeralxempire wrote:
Tim_Tex wrote:
To help Russia, because that's who the PRC is siding with.


I don't think so Tim.


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12 Jul 2024, 7:27 pm

Aha.. a Tool time fan......
But just think , When Trump gets into office , Someone said that , he would have no problem allowing Putin to take over
Soveriegn Nations ....No worries , . . No Countries to support , when he does decide to try to get US out of NATO and as he said in his previous administration.....Then Use that concept , Possibly ? to leverage against the Pro - Nato members of Congress . Turning them into his Pawns , with the Sword over there heads ??. :| To get them to vote in Congress as he might want? On other things ? (Just something to watch out for ?) 8O


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13 Jul 2024, 12:07 pm

Jakki wrote:
But it does appear suspicious at a time when we are fully supporting Ukraine...during a war..


It's mostly a matter of numbers as well as the ability to support sustained operations.

China can't effectively deploy very many soldiers over a significant distance because they lack the logistical capability to do so.

But, even when it's the US, Britain or France doing the same thing, a company sized deployment isn't likely to make a significant operational difference. At times those states will use a small deployment primarily because an attack that harms their soldiers will create public sentiments that support a bigger response.


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13 Jul 2024, 1:46 pm

^^^^ Good Insight ^^^^..... :wink: .... or perhaps interactive War manuveurs training .


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