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02 Sep 2024, 1:59 am

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02 Sep 2024, 2:00 am

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Many Tamils trace their origins to the people of Mohenjodaro in the Indus Valley around 6000 years before the birth of Christ. There is, however, a need for further systematic study of the history of the early Tamils and proto Tamils.


Yes, we can all agree more research needs to be done. tamils themselves are torn, some say they are Bhumiputras (or sons of he soil) so indigenous (technically this is correct as tamils are a mix of indigenous hunter gatherers and Iranian farmers). Others do claim the Indus valley but there remain two problems a) the Indus script is not decipherable and b) tamil traditions of their earliest kingdom (Sangam) points to a submerged continent. the common folk prefer the latter that they came by sea from a sunken land. One more thing to note, tamils (not Pacific Islanders) are the first global travellers by sea. European historians barely give any credence to tamil sea faring vessels, the double hull design on ships was actually a tamil innovation (the English word catamaran is directly derived from the tamil Katumaram). there is so much evidence of tamil seafarers visiting every continent on earth prior to European history from Ireland all the way to New zealand. this wasn't just sailors blown of course. the tamils also controlled large maritime empires
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03 Sep 2024, 2:08 pm

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Some researchers have concluded that it was during the period 6000 B.C. to 3000 B.C. that the island separated from the Indian sub continent and the narrow strip of shallow water known today as the Palk Straits came into existence.


Yes the dating doesn't align with rise in global sea levels though, the end of the younger Dryas makes more sense as we know 12,900 years ago there was a rise in sea levels which means Hanuman's bridge on the palk straits was above sea level much earlier than 6-9000 BC.


If a large comet struck the Earth around 13,000 years ago when the Earth was in the depths of an Ice Age, and the impact craters were primarily in the frozen ice sheets. The energy of the impact would have been released to the ice. A large comet perhaps 100 miles across would release a huge amount of energy. The shock waves and melting ice would cause a Great Flood. But afterwards the Earth would have tried to return back to the ice age but so much energy was released that now the earth was on a voyage back to the warm period between ice ages. So the period following 13,000 years ago would
produce chaos on the planet for a few thousand years.

9,000 B.C. is around 11,000 years ago and the Earth still might be dealing with this transition.


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03 Sep 2024, 4:46 pm

jimmy m wrote:
So the period following 13,000 years ago would
produce chaos on the planet for a few thousand years.

9,000 B.C. is around 11,000 years ago and the Earth still might be dealing with this transition.


there remains some dilemmas in chronological dating reflecting an archaeological belief that innovations in technology build upon earlier knowledge. If this is true then both Gobleke tepe and Karahan tepe in turkey represent a problem in conventional theory. these relatively advanced structures were built 11-12,000 years ago producing buildings that would not be seen for another 6000 years until Sumeria and Egypt. What has been excavated is only thought to be 5% of what is buried underneath which means there may be thousands of years of layers buried below. this is reminiscent of south America and Egypt where the oldest structures show the most advanced application of materials technology. It's classified as "forbidden" archaeology where in old kingdom Egypt and India, there is evidence (for example) of cutting/polishing that requires laser technology precision.

Another example of an area that pre-dates the younger Dryas is in Indonesia in a place called Gunung Padang
which Indonesian Geologist Danny Natwidaja who dated two giant pyramids one, 20,000 years ago and one 75,000 years old. the discoveries even garnered interest from the Indonesian president, however attempt to properly date and investigate these structures (which completely turns human civilisation on it's head) have been hampered or blocked.

the existence of Karahan tepe and Gobleke tepe infact demolishes conventional paradigms, however conventional archaeology makes weird assumptions that they were built by bored hunter gatherers with sticks and stones. Indeed the old kingdom "Great pyramid" is assumed to have been a "one-off" advanced project by a pharoah 5000 years ago built by farmers. Nobody has come up with plausible what and why and how this was built. Geologists also cast doubt on the "when" too because rainfall weathering on the Giza plateau rock surfaces likely date the area where these structures were built stretch dating back to the end of the younger dryas during the period you identify to when humans were transitioning after the great flood to 11,000-9000 years ago.



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03 Sep 2024, 4:52 pm

Slight tangent, but since God of the gaps is a fallacy, aliens of the gaps is also one.

Substituting one unexplainable entity with powers beyond our comprehension for another unexplainable entity with powers beyond our comprehension doesn't really change the logical fallacy one is calling upon.


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03 Sep 2024, 5:12 pm

Exploring new ideas doesn't cost anything and provides an opportunity for conventional archaeology to defend their own foundations they have built their paradigms upon.



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03 Sep 2024, 5:31 pm

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Exploring new ideas doesn't cost anything and provides an opportunity for conventional archaeology to defend their own foundations they have built their paradigms upon.


They can ask 'how do you know it wasn't aliens' all they like and they'll never make a positive contribution to archaeology or anthropology.

How do you know it wasn't wizards instead of aliens? :chin:

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