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24 Sep 2024, 5:09 pm

I wasted a considerable amount of my pocket money on stamp collecting. I still have them but unsure if I have been feeding silverfish over several decades?

Does collecting stamps make anyone particularly a "chick-magnet"? I can say for sure it never worked for me much.

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24 Sep 2024, 5:41 pm

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I’m not into the notion of killing stuff = fun hobby (although fishing doesn’t typically bother me)

I think there's more to both hunting and fishing than just the literal killing and that any serious take that reduces those activities to just the act of killing is too oversimplified to really consider. It's one thing to jokingly offer that sort of take, but another thing to offer it up seriously.

For the most part, people engage in hunting because they see it as a worthwhile skill to practice and as a way to form valuable experiences. Killing an animal is ultimately nothing more than a means to an end and generally one puts great effort into reducing the suffering involved in producing that outcome for both empathetic and selfish reasons. Harvesting an animal generally isn't a pleasant process, but it certainly reminds one of what meat actually represents.

Beyond that, if one isn't well off it can also be a reasonable way to supplement one's diet.

It's easy to form a bad impression of a hobby when one looks at it from the worst angle possible, but that doesn't mean that perspective can ever lead to an informed impression of said hobby.

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24 Sep 2024, 5:57 pm

I do have an informed impression of the hobby. Most people I grew up with, including my best friend’s family, hunted. I spent a lot of time reading and reflecting on it, including the rationales for and against.

I didn’t realize that this was going to turn into a serious debate which is why my earlier comments were a bit silly. With that being said, I’m free to find whatever hobby attractive, unattractive, or worse and to have whatever other preferences I damn well please. Nowhere did I claim that other women would have the same stance as I do on this topic or that my opinion was in any way universal. I could say more about my reasoning, but I probably shouldn’t because it will just prolong this off-topic argument which, most likely, won’t be a productive one.

In any case, I don’t like guns. I was threatened with gun violence, and I also don’t like them in a broader sense due to the harm they consistently cause although I know you’re fully aware of that.

I find hobbies attractive that many women apparently don’t, so it would be cool if people would cut me some slack and not get offended because that wasn’t my intent.

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24 Sep 2024, 11:04 pm

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TwilightPrincess wrote:

I’m not into the notion of killing stuff = fun hobby (although fishing doesn’t typically bother me)

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25 Sep 2024, 8:29 am

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Here in the USA, stamp collecting is known as the hobby of the old. It is literally a dying hobby, as there are not many young stamp collectors actively in the hobby. Prices have fallen due to low demand. I collected early US stamps (pre-1900) when I was a kid, but got out of it as I got into other things. My stamp collection fills a steamer trunk in one of my storage units. It will be passed down the family tree to a nephew when I die. He might use them to light up his smokes or sell them for more meth. He will think that there is a pirate treasure in the trunk, only to be disappointed (like I am about him).

As for stamps attracting the other sex, only the very elderly would be interested in them.

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25 Sep 2024, 10:33 am

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I’m not into the notion of killing stuff = fun hobby (although fishing doesn’t typically bother me)

But ultimately it does involve killing animals, so that aspect can't be overlooked. Personally, I could never date someone who hunts.

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25 Sep 2024, 2:55 pm

bee33 wrote:

funeralxempire wrote:

TwilightPrincess wrote:

I’m not into the notion of killing stuff = fun hobby (although fishing doesn’t typically bother me)

But ultimately it does involve killing animals, so that aspect can't be overlooked. Personally, I could never date someone who hunts.

But are you vegan? If yes, then you shouldn't date anyone related to the meat industry too.

If not, then why only excluding hunters?

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25 Sep 2024, 3:08 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:

bee33 wrote:

But ultimately it does involve killing animals, so that aspect can't be overlooked. Personally, I could never date someone who hunts.

But are you vegan? If yes, then you shouldn't date anyone related to the meat industry too.

If not, then why only excluding hunters?

I'm not vegan but I am vegetarian (pescatarian, meaning I do eat fish). I would find it hard or impossible to date a butcher or someone who is in the business of killing animals for meat. But although animals that are hunted suffer less than animals raised in factory farms, I think the personal act of killing is more disturbing than passively accepting the practices of the meat farming industry, as objectionable as that is too (and in a sense worse because one is involved in killing without having to look at it too closely).

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25 Sep 2024, 5:23 pm

QuantumChemist wrote:

I collected early US stamps (pre-1900) when I was a kid, but got out of it as I got into other things.

Oh cool! yeah mind are Australian stamps from the 1930s onwards. Mix of used and mint + mint unhinged. Actually this thread reminds me as a young man I had zero hobbies. I think not being particularly interested in hobbies ladies like, such as cooking, sport or joining some club was yet another reason why I was struggling to make connections.

On reflecting maybe lack of connection means I was not connected to "culture" which now makes sense.

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25 Sep 2024, 5:28 pm

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I'm not vegan but I am vegetarian (pescatarian, meaning I do eat fish). I would find it hard or impossible to date a butcher or someone who is in the business of killing animals for meat.

My sister is a vegan and same with my nephew but dad eats steak. through her nework of vegan cronies, I find most of their life choices (which vary) involve some level of compromise. I get annoyed with my nephew blurting out how he hates seeing dead animals when we go out to family meal and specifically aims it at my daughter eating meat. But he never questions his own father's meat eating at the same table. I think he does this to keep his distance from my daughter. Not very sophisticated.

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26 Sep 2024, 7:48 am

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Absolutely, one can find whatever they like attractive or unattractive for literally whatever reasons they see fit.

It just seems analogous to someone finding wearing make-up unattractive because people just use it to lie about what they look like.

Yes, they're entitled to that preference, but doesn't mean their reasons are solid or that other people can't interpret the reasoning used as a red flag.

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26 Sep 2024, 7:49 am

bee33 wrote:

funeralxempire wrote:

TwilightPrincess wrote:

I’m not into the notion of killing stuff = fun hobby (although fishing doesn’t typically bother me)

But ultimately it does involve killing animals, so that aspect can't be overlooked. Personally, I could never date someone who hunts.

It's like seeing someone who raises livestock for meat and reducing that down to just killing animals for fun.

Personally, I see that sort of over-simplistic thinking as unattractive because it seems impossible to not eventually end up on the wrong side of a misunderstanding the results from that sort of thinking.

I don't even disagree that through that lens it's impossible to not see hunting as unattractive, I'm just saying that lens is defective.

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26 Sep 2024, 8:04 am

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It just seems analogous to someone finding wearing make-up unattractive because people just use it to lie about what they look like.

That's not analogous because wearing makeup doesn't involve a serious action like killing animals. Sure, animal testing happens, but people never engage in the physical act of killing something cute and furry by wearing makeup. Some people are perfectly comfortable with that while others are not. Understanding is warranted, especially since guns are a very triggering topic for some people.

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Yes, they're entitled to that preference, but doesn't mean their reasons are solid or that other people can't interpret the reasoning used as a red flag.

Folks are free to consider whatever they want a red flag. Some might think that people's red flags (and more!) are red flags. :lol:

In all seriousness, friends should be able to respectfully disagree over something like this. I wouldn't even have brought hunting up if I thought people here hunted because my goal was not to offend or engage in a serious, off-topic debate but solely to express a personal opinion related to the main topic.

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26 Sep 2024, 7:23 pm

I suspect in gun-crazy America women are more flexible about their dates carrying a weapon or shooting soft furry animals for fun.

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26 Sep 2024, 7:27 pm

bee33 wrote:

But although animals that are hunted suffer less than animals raised in factory farms, I think the personal act of killing is more disturbing than passively accepting the practices of the meat farming industry, as objectionable as that is too (and in a sense worse because one is involved in killing without having to look at it too closely).

I used to do recreational fishing but stopped when I saw guys stomping on blowfish or watching fish I caught slowly suffocate. Weird thing is my vegan nephew who hates eating dead things, loves fishing with his grandad. Humans are complicated.

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27 Sep 2024, 11:42 am

funeralxempire wrote:

bee33 wrote:

But ultimately it does involve killing animals, so that aspect can't be overlooked. Personally, I could never date someone who hunts.

Killing is still killing. No matter how you want to dress it up, you are wrong on this.

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