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27 Sep 2024, 11:56 am

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Killing is still killing. No matter how you want to dress it up, you are wrong on this.


I'm sure that's how things look through the lens you're using.

Killing is a required part of obtaining food so I'm completely unconcerned if killing is involved in how someone obtained their food. Letting someone else do the killing doesn't change that fact so I see no reason to hold it against someone that they sometimes choose to do the killing instead of leaving it for someone else.

Until people figure out how to live off their own smug sense of superiority harvesting food will almost always involve killing. There's no need to 'dress this up', it's how nature works.


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27 Sep 2024, 12:02 pm

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bee33 wrote:
Killing is still killing. No matter how you want to dress it up, you are wrong on this.


I'm sure that's how things look through the lens you're using.

Killing is a required part of obtaining food so I'm completely unconcerned if killing is involved in how someone obtained their food. Letting someone else do the killing doesn't change that fact so I see no reason to hold it against someone that they sometimes choose to do the killing instead of leaving it for someone else.

Until people figure out how to live off their own smug sense of superiority harvesting food will almost always involve killing. There's no need to 'dress this up', it's how nature works.
I'm not using a lens, I'm being objectively plain about this. Killing is not a required part of obtaining food. Ask any vegan. But my objection was to the hobby of hunting, because to me that is not a person I want to associate with: someone who considers killing a pastime.



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27 Sep 2024, 12:09 pm

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bee33 wrote:
Killing is still killing. No matter how you want to dress it up, you are wrong on this.


I'm sure that's how things look through the lens you're using.

Killing is a required part of obtaining food so I'm completely unconcerned if killing is involved in how someone obtained their food. Letting someone else do the killing doesn't change that fact so I see no reason to hold it against someone that they sometimes choose to do the killing instead of leaving it for someone else.

Until people figure out how to live off their own smug sense of superiority harvesting food will almost always involve killing. There's no need to 'dress this up', it's how nature works.
I'm not using a lens, I'm being objectively plain about this. Killing is not a required part of obtaining food. Ask any vegan. But my objection was to the hobby of hunting, because to me that is not a person I want to associate with: someone who considers killing a pastime.


Because plant-based foods aren't killed either during the process of making them into food or by the process of consuming them? :scratch:

You're not being objective, you're ignoring anything that contradicts your emotional truth. Unfortunately your emotional truth is at odds with reality.

One can have whatever preferences they'd like but sometimes the premises those preferences are based on are objectively wrong. One is still entitled to those preferences but shouldn't be surprised when their flawed premise receives pushback.


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27 Sep 2024, 12:18 pm

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Because plant-based foods aren't killed either during the process of making them into food or by the process of consuming them? :scratch:
That is absolutely idiotic. I see it was a mistake for me to try to engage with you seriously. I'm done.



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27 Sep 2024, 12:20 pm

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Because plant-based foods aren't killed either during the process of making them into food or by the process of consuming them? :scratch:
That is absolutely idiotic. I see it was a mistake for me to try to engage with you seriously. I'm done.


Translation: Don't remind me of inconvenient facts, my feelings don't want to engage with your facts. :roll:


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27 Sep 2024, 12:24 pm

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Because plant-based foods aren't killed either during the process of making them into food or by the process of consuming them? :scratch:
That is absolutely idiotic. I see it was a mistake for me to try to engage with you seriously. I'm done.


Translation: Don't remind me of inconvenient facts, my feelings don't want to engage with your facts. :roll:

No one in their right mind objects to killing plants. It is absolutely and utterly IDIOTIC!! !! !! Stop it!



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27 Sep 2024, 12:39 pm

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No one in their right mind objects to killing plants. It is absolutely and utterly IDIOTIC!! ! ! ! ! Stop it!


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27 Sep 2024, 1:13 pm

Is this a demonstration of why "Arguing online" is in the top 15 least attractive male hobbies?


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27 Sep 2024, 2:11 pm

^ It certainly looks like it. :lol:

Honestly, I have a bigger problem with the hurtful behavior some folks are engaging in in this discussion than with hunting itself.

Sharing our personal takes on why a hobby is unattractive to us does not equate a “smug sense of superiority.” It’s more about engaging with the topic. People are under no obligation to consider dating someone who doesn’t like their hobby, but I think this argument is toxic as f**k. We don’t all have to agree here.

I was thinking that perhaps folks are triggered due to fond memories with family members centered around this activity. If that’s the case, maybe talk about that rather than make allusions to red flags, unhelpful gifs, smug senses of superiority, or finding someone’s argument unattractive because ad hominem-ish retorts are not constructive.

I’m not mad, just disappointed because I know you can do better. Granted, sometimes it’s hard to see the forest for the trees. I’ve been there myself.


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27 Sep 2024, 3:09 pm

Congrats funeralxempire; first time I see you trigger a fellow WPer.

Welcome to the club. 8)



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27 Sep 2024, 3:18 pm

bee33 wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
bee33 wrote:
Killing is still killing. No matter how you want to dress it up, you are wrong on this.


I'm sure that's how things look through the lens you're using.

Killing is a required part of obtaining food so I'm completely unconcerned if killing is involved in how someone obtained their food. Letting someone else do the killing doesn't change that fact so I see no reason to hold it against someone that they sometimes choose to do the killing instead of leaving it for someone else.

Until people figure out how to live off their own smug sense of superiority harvesting food will almost always involve killing. There's no need to 'dress this up', it's how nature works.
I'm not using a lens, I'm being objectively plain about this. Killing is not a required part of obtaining food. Ask any vegan. But my objection was to the hobby of hunting, because to me that is not a person I want to associate with: someone who considers killing a pastime.


I kinda agree on this; killing for food as necessity is one thing, vs killing birds as pastime is another thing.



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27 Sep 2024, 3:29 pm

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I kinda agree on this; killing for food as necessity is one thing, vs killing birds as pastime is another thing.


That's reasonable. I don't think trophy hunting or hunting just for the sake of hunting can be defended, ones motivations for why they're choosing to engage in the activity matter.

If someone really is just motivated by bloodlust they're harming the idea that most people who hunt aren't being motivated by a desire to kill.


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27 Sep 2024, 4:19 pm

Back to a couple hobbies mentioned in the OP, I don’t mind a guy being into magic tricks generally speaking, but I really don’t like it when someone tries to use it as a pick up line or to impress me. It only happened once. It was with the guy who sent me a dick pic when I was young. When I first met him, he asked me if he could show me a magic trick. Surprisingly, a boner wasn’t involved. It was something unimpressive involving a coin. Actually, it was so unimpressive I found it sort of cute. I was a bit sentimental about stuff like that at the time.

Writing is considered a cool hobby by most. However, I don’t like it when people ask if they can read you a poem they wrote as a pick up line or to impress you. This also happened to me once or twice-ish. When I was somewhere between 15-17, a guy approached me while I was in the poetry section of the library. It’s possible he didn’t know I was underage. I spent a lot of time there during the day as a homeschooler. I think he was around 25 or 30. He said that he wanted to read me a love poem he wrote. I rejected the offer and said that I was looking for Tennyson (which I was). Then he complained about the rejection. I turned down the offer because I was uncomfortable due to being young and also because I didn’t feel like I had the spoons to pretend as though I liked a truly god-awful poem. I estimated that the likelihood of him writing good poetry was extremely low - perhaps between 0 and 5%. Even if it was good, I was in the mood for Tennyson. You know how it is.

Anyway, interests are cool, but I probably won’t be impressed during a first encounter or so if an attempt is made to impress me or if they make me uncomfortable for some reason related to the hobby.


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27 Sep 2024, 4:31 pm

to L>I>V>E is to be E<V<I<L. no matter what we do, no matter how careful we are, we will with certainty end up hurting something or somebody somewhere along the line. hunting is not something i would do, even though i come from a long line of outdoorsmen- but i can see that a hunter with a high powered rifle is far more humane an executioner, than is natural selection in the wild. if i were a game animal, i'd much prefer being quickly and unpredictably taken out by a competent hunter with the appropriate rifle, than would i cast my lot with the wolves and lions who generally kill slowly and painfully. just my jejune opinion. :nerdy:



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27 Sep 2024, 5:27 pm

I would be cautious sharing hobbies with these rather well known clowns
https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... nevada-aoe

Dating somebody who thinks killing for sport is fun is perhaps a rouge drapeau



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