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29 Nov 2024, 8:34 am

The equivalent of a Birmingham sized city, if this becomes a trend, will need to be constructed every 15 months.

I wonder what hair brained scheme they have to lower these numbers and how it managed to get this out if hand is the first place.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cjdlmprepl5t



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29 Nov 2024, 11:12 am

It's got worse since Farage and his mates got us out of the EU. The tories under Cameron pledged to get it down to below 100,000 and their record is a sick joke.


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29 Nov 2024, 12:16 pm

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It's got worse since Farage and his mates got us out of the EU. The tories under Cameron pledged to get it down to below 100,000 and their record is a sick joke.


It'll get to the stage where the military will have to get involved. Constructing Birmingham twice every three years isn't remotely plausible.

No matter what government is in charge, nothing seems to change.



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30 Nov 2024, 12:26 am

Hopefully Starmer can get on top of it. No wonder more people with health problems are going on benefits when they're being forced out of the jobs market by immigrants and the dole is now a complete bastard with hundreds of thousands getting sanctioned.


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30 Nov 2024, 12:36 am

I'm so tired of reading this type of anti-immigrant fear mongering and hate.



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30 Nov 2024, 7:27 am

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I'm so tired of reading this type of anti-immigrant fear mongering and hate.
I'm guessing you're not on a council waiting list trying to get accommodation or trying to get a low paid job.


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30 Nov 2024, 7:50 am

Nades wrote:
The equivalent of a Birmingham sized city, if this becomes a trend, will need to be constructed every 15 months.

I wonder what hair brained scheme they have to lower these numbers and how it managed to get this out if hand is the first place.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cjdlmprepl5t


UK seems very attractive to foreigners like me with their health care, dole and civil protections. I would not mind retiring there, but UK does not allow people like me from America to retire in the UK. Only people without money, from third world nations are allowed to come over as refugees. I don't know how many people UK took in from Syria, Iraq, and all kinds of other places. I don't blame them, I would go to UK too and get the free health care and dental care.

On the national level, UK military has atrophied, and UK is looking like a juicy target. I think they have about three nuclear subs that patrol the globe and are shadowed by Russian subs, that is pretty much it for nuclear deterrent. UK of 2024 is not like UK of 1940, could not withstand or hold out like the Great Britain under Churchill, it would fold like a house of cards in no time at all. That is the way things go with nations, they come and go throughout history. So it was with Rome, too. Maybe UK will have to pay tribute to Russia, and health care will be discontinued.

The trouble with the immigrants is not their race, it is that they are not invested in the culture or the country and could care less. Are they going to fight and die for UK? Or just leave and go to another country if things get tough, just like they left their home country? They are economic immigrants and just want an easier life, they don't want to deal with any static. I don't know how many assimilate or feel very invested in UK culture, you would have to answer that question for me if you live there.

I think immigrants should be given citizenship if they serve in the military overseas in combat situations for 10 years, or in the civilian profession of doctor or nurse, that sounds like a fair deal to me. There always seems a shortage of doctors and nurses, and those are tough jobs. Any profession in high demand and short supply, those should be pathways to citizenship for foreigners. Especially young people ages 18 - 25.

If you get young people from overseas, that is like stealing from other countries. You get a fully developed human being that can be productive, yet you did not have to pay for the unproductive childhood. It is a good deal.


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30 Nov 2024, 11:07 am

bee33 wrote:
I'm so tired of reading this type of anti-immigrant fear mongering and hate.
Same. It always seems to be fed by the likes of the Daily Mail and other spiteful rags specialising in divisive scare stories.

Does anyone have linkable stats showing how many of "our jobs" and housing have been stolen given to migrants?


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30 Nov 2024, 1:10 pm

Rossall wrote:
bee33 wrote:
I'm so tired of reading this type of anti-immigrant fear mongering and hate.
I'm guessing you're not on a council waiting list trying to get accommodation or trying to get a low paid job.

If I were I would not be blaming immigrants as they're not the ones at fault.