Scientists Debunk themselves into a corner

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Scepticism is a critical part of the scientific method. the problem is where no logical explanations exist and scientists steeped in dogma feel compelled to attack theories that propose inevitable ontological shifts and will even propose counter-theories that put themselves in a corner.

One of the stupidest is the current convention for how Easter Islanders moved the Moai statues in Easter Island


https://www.npr.org/2018/06/07/61808732 ... -the-answe


Just one minor problem
the statues are actually up to 200 metric tonnes each and most of the structure is buried under the sand. What angers me is conventional archaeology not only ignore the actual data, they might be spreading misinformation to hide how impossible it would be for stone age hunters to move 200 metric tonne stones.

Are archaeologists now thought to be scientists?

You only claim this because your favoured solution is aliens.

It's infinitesimally more likely that humans are responsible for moving the stones than extraterrestrials.

Aliens isn't even a hypothesis, it's a handwave. You might as well claim a f*****g wizard did it.

I don't think that "infinitesimally" is the word you wanted.

The chances of it having been aliens are infinitesimal, if you prefer that wording.

Exactly. The way it was stated was that the chance that it was humans was just barely more likely than that it was aliens.

Love this grammatically correct discussion... ...Its these same perseverations that can interrupt comphrehension on the odd occassion. . Due to the intent was not the desired interpetation, but the Concept Remained the Same .!
On the other hand !
But if Building three of the 9/11 can happen with out so much as a paperplane crashing into. And I am supposed to
learn this as a fact . There Durn Well , might as well be Aliens and the crocodile people . Tall Whites or Greys WHATEVER . ? Cause , I need to believe in something better than that stuff my eyes have seen. If it did not all appear so silly .
It might be scarey ? If I held that America was a superpower . That has had such a huge blackbudget, (Reported by many News outlets . over the years,) They hopefull have grown past just going into outter space, since the 1960s .

I mean sure, a bunch of natives with twine rope pulled this across the island


I mean National Geographic struggled with a fake head weighing 5 tonne. How in god's name could they move a 200 tonne Moai with coconut fibre??

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If it wasn't the people of Easter Island, what other realistic alternative is there?

It also sounds racist AF to out-of-hand dismiss the idea that the people who lived there couldn't possibly be capable of coming up with a method.

Is that the corner?... Looks like somebody cleaned it up.

Wait what? racist?? I'm more than happy to give credit to the now extinct easter Islanders except it's disingenuous of teams of so called experts to move miniaturised scale models of heads using materials never found on the island.

I should point out, as with most giant megaliths (Stonehenge, Egypt or Easter Island) attempts by archaeologists to replicate how they move actually end up failing and the replicas are nowhere near as big/heavy as the originals.

Probably used water I suspect to clean off the dirt on the buried part of the Moai. the websites don't actually say how the cleaning was done but it probably involved brushing and neutral pH water to avoid damaging the stone.

It comes off like oh, well we know these people couldn't have accomplished this feat.

We pretty consistently seem to underestimate peoples who had what we consider stone age technology. Outsiders insisting they couldn't possibly have done things that are best explained by them doing them is demeaning.

That's true regardless of how the experimental archaeologists experiments go.

I don't disagree but aforementioned outsiders also hope we don't don't ask questions as to they struggle to move a 5 tonne rock a couple of metres before giving up and then say "Oh, but this is how the Easter Islanders did it".

Very much this. The failure of modern people to recreate our ancestors feats is not evidence that they couldn't possibly have done it.

We tend to assume we are smarter now than we have been historically and this simply isn't true.

In fact there's evidence to suggest that the presence of advanced technology dumbs us down as we outsource our problem-solving abilities.

According to Wikipedia, some of the heads were found by the side of the road where hey fell.

If it was some kind of advanced civilization doing it, they presumably would have been able to lift them and finish transporting them to the destination.

If it were humans moving them and one toppled, then it seems likely that they would stay where they toppled.